GOD MYTHS AND FABLES

[rockymt]

"rockymt" <rockymt@porchlight.ca> wrote in message
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> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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>> "rockymt" <rockymt@porchlight.ca> wrote in message
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>>> "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>>> "rockymt" <rockymt@porchlight.ca> wrote in message
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>>>>> "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>> "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>He( Jesus) is the only true God, and all you need to believe in. He is
>>>>>>unique, from the fable gods because He conquered hell, death and the
>>>>>>grave. He is Risen and alive today.
>>>>> Christ Jesus co-eternal, co-creator with the Father and the Holy
>>>>> Spirit,
>>>>> transcendent, ( beyond time and space-- /He created time and space),
>>>>> pre-eminent... but most importantly He is my Risen Savoir Who has made
>>>>> it
>>>>> possible for me to follow him beyond the grave, and walk here on
>>>>> earth
>>>>> the newness of life.
>>>>
>>>> The Jesus story is totally implausible. It is not supported by any
>>>> solid
>>>> objective verifiable evidence
>>>
>>> Should we believe in a god for whom there is NO solid objective
>>> evidence?
>>>
>> Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
>> Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
>> therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
>> Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in
>> John 3:3) Only atheists ask for "objective and verifiable evidence" of
>> love. They probably got into the habit coercing their girlfriends to
>> prove their love by some action we all can guess. LOL
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> Gospel of John 20
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> 24Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the
> disciples when Jesus came. 25So the other disciples told him, "We have
> seen the Lord!"
> But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and
> put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will
> not believe it."
> 26A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with
> them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and
> said, "Peace be with you!" 27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger
> here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop
> doubting and believe."
>
> 28Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
>
> 29Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed;
> blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
>
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> rockymt
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[Kenneth Doyle]

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:31:04 -0500, Pastor Frank wrote:

> "skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
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>> On Nov 5, 9:18 pm, "rockymt" <rock...@porchlight.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> listen to me dear friends. You need not scrutinize these words below.
>>> Go
>>> to the Word of God, and see for yourself.
>>
>> I've read the bible, rocky-me-dear. I read it through the first time
>> the year I turned eight. I read it through every year thereafter until
>> I was 22. I have read several different translations, including the
>> KJV and the Douay. I have read it in German, Spanish, and Demotic
>> (Modern) Greek.
>> The bible is nothing but a hodge-podge of Bronze and Iron Age
>> mythology. It isn't factual. It isn't historical. It qualifies as
>> literature, had some interesting (if lugubrious) poetry and some pretty
>> nice soft porn, but it doesn't qualify as "true."
>>
>>> Be slow to speak and judge; quick to listen and heed. Don't
>>> over-rationalize, don't over-intellectualize.
>>
>> Why? Rationality is the most human of human characteristics.
>> Rationality makes us what we are. To deny rationality is to deny our
>> humanity. Urging us to deny our rationality means that you're playing
>> into the old, old con game of "don't think, just do as I tell you."
>> Well, **** you.
>> If your beliefs cannot stand up to reason, don't blame reason. Blame
>> the silliness of your beliefs.
>>
> Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully
> manifested
> in
> Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
> therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
> Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in
> John 3:3) You have to be an atheist to look for "reasonable" and
> "rational" love. LOL

Yeah, very funny. Why is this god of yours suddenly all too human when
it comes to the tricky questions?

 

[bob young]

Pastor Frank wrote:

> "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
> news:47327FB8.D1B326C0@netvigator.com...
> > Olrik wrote:
> >> On Nov 3, 5:34 pm, "Pastor Frank" <P...@christfirst.edu> wrote:
> >> > "Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:HS2Xi.1763$di.1627@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
> >> > >
> >> > > Should we base this life on fiction, myths and fables? I challenge
> >> > > anyone
> >> > > to provide 'objective verifiable evidence' that their god actually
> >> > > exists.
> >> >
> >> > Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested
> >> > in
> >> > Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
> >> > therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
> >> > Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in
> >> > John 3:3) and no, we won't send you all our money as "objective,
> >> > verifiable
> >> > evidence", to prove our love for you. That's what you are after, aren't
> >> > you?
> >>
> >> Bill is not asking for money. Xians, on the other hand, seem to have
> >> an insatiable need for it. Go figure...
> >>
> >> > You will just have to believe us,
> >>
> >> That would be NO .
> >>
> >> > that we answer your posts because we
> >> > love you in the Lord and that this loving action evidences our God,
> >> > whose
> >> > essence is that very love and care we show others.
> >
> > "Excuse me, but may I point something out to you?
> > That love and care for others can be done quite well on your own, like I
> > do, there's no need for any gods."
> >
> Why do you keep telling us the same redundancies over and over?

Simple - because you keep on claiming your god is love
and those who do not follow it are immoral and cannot care for others.

I would have thought that was plainly obvious.


> We
> already conceeded, that no god(s) of your definition are needed, nor exist
> i.e. old man in the sky above them thar clouds, but our Christian "God is
> love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in Jesus Christ giving His
> life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We therefore know our God and
> have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
> Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in
> John 3:3) You Bob don't know any love and care for others, otherwise you
> would honour those like Christ who sacrifice their lives for the wellbeing
> of others. "like I do" indeed!!!!
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[gudloos@yahoo.com]

On 8 Nov., 16:38, "rockymt" <rock...@porchlight.ca> wrote:
> "Pastor Frank" <P...@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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> > "rockymt" <rock...@porchlight.ca> wrote in message
> >news:fgqp9b$14c$1@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> >> "Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>news:u2tXi.3072$di.2705@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
> >>> "rockymt" <rock...@porchlight.ca> wrote in message
> >>>news:fglf01$7qp$1@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> >>>> "Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:JymXi.50308$q7.34560@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >>>>> "bob young" <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news5A.6455871@netvigator.com...
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> >>>>>He( Jesus) is the only true God, and all you need to believe in. He is
> >>>>>unique, from the fable gods because He conquered hell, death and the
> >>>>>grave. He is Risen and alive today.
> >>>> Christ Jesus co-eternal, co-creator with the Father and the Holy
> >>>> Spirit,
> >>>> transcendent, ( beyond time and space-- /He created time and space),
> >>>> pre-eminent... but most importantly He is my Risen Savoir Who has made
> >>>> it
> >>>> possible for me to follow him beyond the grave, and walk here on earth
> >>>> the newness of life.
>
> >>> The Jesus story is totally implausible. It is not supported by any solid
> >>> objective verifiable evidence
>
> >> Should we believe in a god for whom there is NO solid objective evidence?
>
> > Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
> > Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
> > therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
> > Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in
> > John 3:3) Only atheists ask for "objective and verifiable evidence" of
> > love. They probably got into the habit coercing their girlfriends to prove
> > their love by some action we all can guess. LOL
>
> ,.<><><><>
> Gospel of John
>
> 24Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the
> disciples when Jesus came. 25So the other disciples told him, "We have seen
> the Lord!"
> But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put
> my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not
> believe it."
> 26A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with
> them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and
> said, "Peace be with you!" 27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here;
> see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and
> believe."
>
> 28Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
>
> 29Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed;
> blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
>
> rockymt


Gosh, that is really convincing. It is all so clear now. Thank you
so very much.

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[bob young]

rockymt wrote:

> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
> news:47324513$0$26448$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> > "rockymt" <rockymt@porchlight.ca> wrote in message
> > news:fgqp9b$14c$1@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> >> "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >> news:u2tXi.3072$di.2705@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
> >>> "rockymt" <rockymt@porchlight.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:fglf01$7qp$1@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> >>>> "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:JymXi.50308$q7.34560@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >>>>> "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news5A.6455871@netvigator.com...
> >>>
> >>>>>He( Jesus) is the only true God, and all you need to believe in. He is
> >>>>>unique, from the fable gods because He conquered hell, death and the
> >>>>>grave. He is Risen and alive today.
> >>>> Christ Jesus co-eternal, co-creator with the Father and the Holy
> >>>> Spirit,
> >>>> transcendent, ( beyond time and space-- /He created time and space),
> >>>> pre-eminent... but most importantly He is my Risen Savoir Who has made
> >>>> it
> >>>> possible for me to follow him beyond the grave, and walk here on earth
> >>>> the newness of life.
> >>>
> >>> The Jesus story is totally implausible. It is not supported by any solid
> >>> objective verifiable evidence
> >>
> >> Should we believe in a god for whom there is NO solid objective evidence?
> >>
> > Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
> > Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
> > therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
> > Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in
> > John 3:3) Only atheists ask for "objective and verifiable evidence" of
> > love. They probably got into the habit coercing their girlfriends to prove
> > their love by some action we all can guess. LOL
>
> ,.<><><><>
> Gospel of John
>
> 24Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the
> disciples when Jesus came. 25So the other disciples told him, "We have seen
> the Lord!"
> But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put
> my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not
> believe it."
> 26A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with
> them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and
> said, "Peace be with you!" 27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here;
> see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and
> believe."
>
> 28Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
>
> 29Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed;
> blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Nice primitive story, which is all it is,
if one is prepared to use common sense and intelligence.

Back then they spoke aramaic. Assuming the story was written down on a piece
of goat skin at the time it would have been translated, again and again until
we reach the Latin version about1,400 years later - eventually it made it into
the English [commercial] version.

And you fools quote the English version which has no relevance at all to what
happened so long ago due to so many variables

Groan [that's not my name it's something i cannot avoid doing when religionists
make their silly claims]

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