Holocaust Denial, American Style 29 Nov 2007

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:55:22 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>
>"Hans Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message news:trh8n3tac87id9lm5ea7e8nq76evog5s5t@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:27:45 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Hans Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>>news:7508n3l105jv5vrruo7gdjgr2drdl36kgf@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:12:21 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>>>You have NOT provided evidence to proved that Saddam was working with
>>>>>Islamic terrorists as was promised or that he had WMD in Iraq just before
>>>>>the invasion as was promised!
>>>>
>>>> You are a serial liar.
>>>>
>[snip]
>
>>>
>>>
>>>Your source here is a blogger site!
>>
>> You're done CON, **** off and lie yourself to sleep.
>
>that's meant to be a counter argument is it?

You're done denier, out of the game, over.

**** off and die you lying scumbag Mick POS.
 
"Hans Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:55:22 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Hans Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>news:trh8n3tac87id9lm5ea7e8nq76evog5s5t@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:27:45 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Hans Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>>>news:7508n3l105jv5vrruo7gdjgr2drdl36kgf@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:12:21 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>>>
>>>>>>You have NOT provided evidence to proved that Saddam was working with
>>>>>>Islamic terrorists as was promised or that he had WMD in Iraq just
>>>>>>before
>>>>>>the invasion as was promised!
>>>>>
>>>>> You are a serial liar.
>>>>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Your source here is a blogger site!
>>>
>>> You're done CON, **** off and lie yourself to sleep.
>>
>>that's meant to be a counter argument is it?
>
> You're done denier, out of the game, over.
>
[snip racist ad hominem]

so you can't find anything to support your contention of WMD in Iraq and
Saddam supporting al Qaeda and I show that the pathetic excuse for evidence
is 1. Admitted wrong by Powell himself and 2. contradicted by official
intelligence agency reports.

Readers whom do you believe?

The bigoted guy that can only reply with insult and expletive or the one
offering you official reports and accepted media sources? make up your own
minds don't just take what I state. go and look at the evidence I provided
which is not a SPIN from a blogger's site but actual official and accepted
media.
 
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>
>"Hans Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>news:5p8an39nbc9d6ec3afemufo09j8f1q99sb@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:55:22 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Hans Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>>news:trh8n3tac87id9lm5ea7e8nq76evog5s5t@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:27:45 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Hans Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>>>>news:7508n3l105jv5vrruo7gdjgr2drdl36kgf@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:12:21 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>>>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You have NOT provided evidence to proved that Saddam was working with
>>>>>>>Islamic terrorists as was promised or that he had WMD in Iraq just
>>>>>>>before
>>>>>>>the invasion as was promised!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a serial liar.
>>>>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Your source here is a blogger site!
>>>>
>>>> You're done CON, **** off and lie yourself to sleep.
>>>
>>>that's meant to be a counter argument is it?
>>
>> You're done denier, out of the game, over.
>>
>[snip racist ad hominem]
>
>so you can't find anything to support

Did, done, posted, denied.

**** off and DIE YOU SCUM!
 
"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>
[snip]
>>[snip racist ad hominem]
>>
>>so you can't find anything to support
>
> Did, done, posted, denied.

No it wasnt! You just posted stuff from a blogger site and I potted counter
evidence from OFFICIAL US government and media sources which shows yout
source is both out of date and wrong!

In other words we still haven't seen evidence of Saddam supporting Al Qaeda!
Where is the so called evidence? all you posted was claims about an
"alleged" camp in Northern Iraq. You didn't show it was Al Qaeda and you
didn't show how Saddam was assisting them!

You haven't posted ANY evidence of Saddam supporting Al Qaeda! If you did
where is it? If you did it then it should be easy to prove it by posting a
reference to the PRIMARY SOURCE! So what is you evidence? Blogger spin?

LOL!
 
"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>
[snip]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You have NOT provided evidence to proved that Saddam was working
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>Islamic terrorists as was promised or that he had WMD in Iraq just
>>>>>>>>before
>>>>>>>>the invasion as was promised!
>>>>>>>

Fritz you haven't provided evidence and like all the others who haven't you
will not be posting within a matter of days. this supports my position . I
know I will be right about this and you will not be posting. You are a
spammer with no support for your political position.
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:03:52 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>
>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>news:rfgan3h2af1kes1msugo2fepuviagdsege@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>
>[snip]
>>>[snip racist ad hominem]
>>>
>>>so you can't find anything to support
>>
>> Did, done, posted, denied.
>
>No it wasnt!

LIAR!
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:06:46 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>
>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>news:rfgan3h2af1kes1msugo2fepuviagdsege@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>
>[snip]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You have NOT provided evidence to proved that Saddam was working
>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>Islamic terrorists as was promised or that he had WMD in Iraq just
>>>>>>>>>before
>>>>>>>>>the invasion as was promised!
>>>>>>>>
>
>Fritz you haven't provided evidence and like all the others who haven't you
>will not be posting within a matter of days.

Be-A-Con you stupid ****wit, SHADDUP!

I'll do precisely what I choose!

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200410\NAT20041011a.html

CNSNews.com) - When CNSNews.com published an article Monday, Oct. 4,
entitled, "Exclusive: Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror
Ties," we decided against publishing all 42 pages of the Iraqi
intelligence documents in our possession and on which the article was
based.

We published only the first page, fearing that if more were made
widely available on the Internet, they might end up being altered or
otherwise manipulated. We offered credentialed news organizations and
counter-terrorism experts the opportunity to view and receive copies
of the documents so that they might check for themselves on the
authenticity of the documents and judge their importance in the debate
over whether Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction
and/or had ties to international terrorist organizations.

Several news organizations did just that. But in light of other
assertions on Wednesday, widely reported by the mainstream media, that
Saddam did not pose any significant threat prior to the U.S. invasion
of Iraq, we felt it was time to publish as many of the Iraqi
intelligence documents as possible.

What follows are copies of 30 of the 42 pages that are in our
possession. Pages 29 through 40 were excluded because they replicate,
though in a different person's handwriting, earlier documents.

Upon clicking on the individual pages of Arabic documents, readers
will have an opportunity to click on the unedited English translation
of those documents. We hope this serves to further illuminate a very
important element of the ongoing debate.

Page 1: Jan. 18, 1993 memo from Saddam Hussein, through his secretary,
to the Iraqi Intelligence Service, urging that missions be undertaken
to "hunt down Americans," especially in Somalia.

Pages 2-12: Jan. 25, 1993 memo from the Iraqi Intelligence Service to
Saddam Hussein, outlining the existing or developing relationships
between Iraq and terrorist organizations.
Page 2
Page 3
Page 4
Page 5
Page 6
Page 7
Page 8
Page 9
Page 10
Page 11
Page 12

Page 13: Feb. 8, 1993 response from Saddam Hussein to the Jan. 25,
1993 memo.

Pages 14, 15: March 11, 1993 memo from the Iraqi Intelligence Service
detailing plans for a meeting with "one of the leaders from the
Egyptian Al-Jehad" terrorist organization.
Page 14
Page 15

Page 16: March 16, 1993 response from Saddam's secretary to the March
11, 1993 memo.

Pages 17, 18: March 18, 1993 memo from the Iraqi Intelligence Service
detailing plans to "move against the Egyptian regime" of Hosni
Mubarak.
Page 17
Page 18

Pages 19-20: Iraqi Intelligence Service internal memos regarding the
information of individuals who participated at "the martyr act camp"
belonging to the Iraqi intelligence directorate.
Page 19
Page 20

Pages 21-26: They comprise a list of terrorists trained at a camp
belonging to the Iraqi Intelligence Directorate.
Page 21
Page 22
Page 23
Page 24
Page 25
Page 26

Pages 27, 28: Notes from the Iraqi Intelligence Service outlining
strategies. Included is the assessment that terrorist "efforts should
be concentrated on Egypt." The notes also advise against targeting the
U.S. military, but recommend targeting "Americans as general" as well
as "US agents inside the (Egyptian) regime."
Page 27
Page 28

Page 29-40: Duplicative of pages 2-12, except in a different person's
handwriting.

Page 41: Table indicating Sept. 6, 2000 acquisition of malignant
pustule (anthrax) as well as sterilization/decontamination equipment.

Page 42: Table indicating Aug. 21, 2000 acquisition of mustard gas as
well as protective equipment.
 
"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:03:52 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>news:rfgan3h2af1kes1msugo2fepuviagdsege@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>
>>[snip]
>>>>[snip racist ad hominem]
>>>>
>>>>so you can't find anything to support
>>>
>>> Did, done, posted, denied.
>>
>>No it wasnt!
>
> LIAR!

If you actually posted evidence that stands up I would admit it. all you
posted was a reference from a blogger site which quoted a single news piece!
the news piece in turn quoted Colin Powell. Powell later CHANGED his story!

You didn't post evidence! You posted spin and aberration!

I posted evidence:

http://intelligence.senate.gov/prewar.pdf
page ten shows that they assessed BEFORE the invasion of Iraq that invading
Iraq would NOT CHANGE any WMD efforts in neighbouring countries.

http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
from page 52 and page 105 show NO evidence of WMD and no links to al Qaeda!

That's from the OFFICIAL US reports! go and read it! it ADMITS they got it
WRONG!

But you prefer to forget what the FBI CIA Homeland Security etc. say after
their exhaustive review of tens of millions of pages of documents and hours
of film and photographic evidence don't you? You prefer to go with the
bigots and the bloggers don't you?
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:52:08 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>
>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>news:7b4bn3tie8apcnbpq084r66kb3ljsmk3bc@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:03:52 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>>news:rfgan3h2af1kes1msugo2fepuviagdsege@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>>>[snip racist ad hominem]
>>>>>
>>>>>so you can't find anything to support
>>>>
>>>> Did, done, posted, denied.
>>>
>>>No it wasnt!
>>
>> LIAR!
>
>If you actually posted evidence that stands up I

You are a denier - of everything.

You need to DIE.

.....and soon.
 
"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:06:46 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>news:rfgan3h2af1kes1msugo2fepuviagdsege@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>
>>[snip]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You have NOT provided evidence to proved that Saddam was working
>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>Islamic terrorists as was promised or that he had WMD in Iraq just
>>>>>>>>>>before
>>>>>>>>>>the invasion as was promised!
>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>Fritz you haven't provided evidence and like all the others who haven't
>>you
>>will not be posting within a matter of days.
>
> Be-A-Con you stupid ****wit, SHADDUP!
>
> I'll do precisely what I choose!
>
> http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200410\NAT20041011a.html



I have dealt with this so called evidence before in soc.culture.iraq too!
From: "Mavisbeacon" Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 09:17:49 GMT
Local: Wed, Dec 5 2007 9:17 am
Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial, American Style 29 Nov 2007
Message-ID: <11u5j.12$L25.4@amsnews12>

>>WE know about the Feith Memo being a mockup. but


> BULLSHIT!!!


> http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\2004...


> When CNSNews.com published an article Monday, Oct. 4, entitled,
> "Exclusive: Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties," we
> decided against publishing all 42 pages of the Iraqi intelligence
> documents in our possession and on which the article was based.



[snip]

I gave you a source from the OFFICIAL classified report to congress.
http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
They examined MILLIONS of pages! It s stranget that your 42 pages are not
there because they only report ONE meeting with Al Khyda operatives and they
say NO EVIDENCE OF LINKS between al Quaeda and Iraq.


Thats MILLIONS of pages examined by the CIA not by a media spindoctor:


http://www.slate.com/id/2092180
What is disputed is that the meetings went anywhere. It would not be
surprising to find out that the two sides had a de facto cease-fire, as has
been alleged. But we're still waiting to see real cooperation in the form of
transfers of weapons and other materiel, know-how, or funds; the provision
of safe haven on a significant scale; or the use of Iraqi diplomatic
facilities by al-Qaida terrorists. The Feith memo mentions a few instances
of possible Iraqi assistance to al-Qaida on bomb-building and weapons supply
to affiliated groups, but nothing like the kind of evidence that, in Hayes'
words, "is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources."
[end excerpt]





>
> CNSNews.com) - When CNSNews.com published an article Monday, Oct. 4,
> entitled, "Exclusive: Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror
> Ties," we decided against publishing all 42 pages of the Iraqi
> intelligence documents in our possession and on which the article was
> based.

You have a newspaper article from 2004 which you tout as evidence? It had an
unverified Arabic doccument (which Ill bet you cant even read) which was NOT
referred to by ANY US intelligence source as far as I know? It is very weak
and unsubstianted evidence. Furthermore

How come NO US intelligence organisations ever mentioned this doccument
which you claim was in their posession?




[snip]


Just in case you missed it here are the sections to which I referred:


For the Iraq intel links you will note that they have gone through 30
million
pages of Iraqi documents!


On page 65-66 you will note that GEORGE TENET (know him? The HEAD of CIA)
stated there is no confirmation of links to al quaeda!


It goes on about the lack of links and no supstantial proof of such links.


On page 71 you will note the Answer Al Islam (Zawharis group) is mentioned
as being linked to al Quaeda but NOT to Iraqi authorities!


They then go through links to al quaeda and planning operations withthem.
NOWHERE is any Philipnes attack mentioned.


Ther is one document in the whole 30 million which mentions people meeting
Al Quaeda and leavinf the door open for the POSSIBILITY of working together
(not actually working with them like the US did with the MuJIHADeen) -
bottom of page 73 where you note Bin Laden called Saddam an "unbeliever".


You may also have read the actual transcripts of Bin Ladens videos from the
cave in which he decries Saddam? [different source]


Skip on to page 82 for information on Salman Pak. On page 83 you will note
the OFFICIAL US POSITION of NO TRAINING of terrorists at Salman Pak after
1991!


On poage 84 the DIA states NO LINKS between Al Quaeda and Salman Pak!


Actually on page 85 you will note that far from training for terrorism it
was for training for COUNTER TERRORISM! In fact why would terrorists need to
train outdoors using an airplane? all they would need is a mockup of the
INSIDE of the Airplane! It is the COUNTER terrorists who want to take
control of the Airplane from the terrorists who need an Airplane to train
on?


On page 88 note the reference to Iraq not controlling the Kiurdis North and
that Al Zakawi'sd Anser Al Islam group operated there!


from 88-page 93 you will note that Iraq viewed Anser Al islam and Al Zawhari
as t THREAT and not as an Ally!


On page 94 they nmove on to the Prague meeting.


By the end of page 96 - reference 264 you will note that the US intelligence
service authotities are "Skeptical" whether Atta travelled to Prague!


The real meat however comes from page 105 - conclusions:


Conclusion 1: Saddam distrusted Al quaeda and refused ALL requests to work
with them!


2. There was ONE meeting between Saddams regime and Al Quaeda. There were
possibly two more where the Al Quaeda were rebuffed by Saddam.


3. No links on chemical and bio weapons


4. NO training by Saddams regime of Al Quaeda at Salman Pak OR ANYWHERE ELSE
in Iraq!


5. Saddam tried but failed to capture Zawahi and Anser al Islam. He did not
harbour them or co operate with them or even turn a blind eye to them!


6. Anser al Islan operated since 1991 in Kurdish controlled Northern Iraq
outside of Saddams reach.


7. No involvement in Sept 11 attacks.


8. No intention to work with terrorrists


That gets yo to page 111.


THAT IS THE WORD fromn CIA DIA FBI and NSA and Homeland Security based on
what they now know!
 
"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:52:08 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>news:7b4bn3tie8apcnbpq084r66kb3ljsmk3bc@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:03:52 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>>>news:rfgan3h2af1kes1msugo2fepuviagdsege@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>>>
>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>[snip racist ad hominem]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>so you can't find anything to support
>>>>>
>>>>> Did, done, posted, denied.
>>>>
>>>>No it wasnt!
>>>
>>> LIAR!
>>
>>If you actually posted evidence that stands up I
>
> You are a denier - of everything.

To deny something you have to actually post some substantial evidence of it!
all you posted were already dealt with claims and later contradicted
unsupported statements! I posted the actual evidence of Media and official
sources which show your so called evidence and unsupported bigoted OPINION
is wrong!


>
> You need to DIE.
>
> ....and soon.
>

Death threats against me are NOT evidence of saddam supporting al Qaeda!
where is your evidence?

If you Can't post anything that stands up please don't think a logical
fallacy like ad hominem is doing any better.
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:10:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>
>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>news:8c4bn31tc7ld4sjpilj9hoqtov0op3gdjb@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:06:46 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>>news:rfgan3h2af1kes1msugo2fepuviagdsege@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You have NOT provided evidence to proved that Saddam was working
>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>Islamic terrorists as was promised or that he had WMD in Iraq just
>>>>>>>>>>>before
>>>>>>>>>>>the invasion as was promised!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>Fritz you haven't provided evidence and like all the others who haven't
>>>you
>>>will not be posting within a matter of days.
>>
>> Be-A-Con you stupid ****wit, SHADDUP!
>>
>> I'll do precisely what I choose!
>>
>> http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200410\NAT20041011a.html
>
>
>
>I have dealt with this

YOU ARE A LYING SCUMBAG _ DIE NOW!
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:15:52 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>
>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>news:1rcbn3tau0hjq4p7aoogb7vo8fdn1uu86j@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:52:08 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>>news:7b4bn3tie8apcnbpq084r66kb3ljsmk3bc@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:03:52 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
>>>>>news:rfgan3h2af1kes1msugo2fepuviagdsege@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:59 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
>>>>>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>>>>>
>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>>[snip racist ad hominem]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>so you can't find anything to support
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did, done, posted, denied.
>>>>>
>>>>>No it wasnt!
>>>>
>>>> LIAR!
>>>
>>>If you actually posted evidence that stands up I
>>
>> You are a denier - of everything.
>
>To deny

Is your life.

DIE NOW!
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:31:05 -0800 (PST), Merlin
<johndoe99@fastmail.fm> mumbled:

>On Dec 5, 2:42
 
"Fritz Katzenjammer" <der@captain.vot> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:15:52 -0000, "Mavisbeacon"
> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>
>>
[snip]
>
> Is your life.
>
> DIE NOW!

Frita will be gon in a few days and he STILL wont have posted evidence to
support his unfounded claims. Saddam didnt support Islamists no more than
Hitler supported communists! That does not mean I believe in the views of
hiotler or Saddam!

Making death threaths against me is not going to change you UNSUPPORTED
position!
 
"Merlin" <johndoe99@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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On Dec 27, 9:48 am, "Mavisbeacon" <Mavisbea...@nospam.forme> wrote:
> "Merlin" <johndo...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>
> news:f1bd991c-e6a4-48af-809b-b8ab3b83c00b@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 26, 5:57 pm, Lobby Dosser <lobby.dosser.map...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Merlin <johndo...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > > The IRA wasn't a terrorist group.
> > > It was a group of Irish Patriots who defended their occupied country
> > > against the oppressing British invaders.
>
> > Using terrorism.
>
> That depends on your perspective and what you define terrorism as.
>
> > Of course Merlin won't give us HIS definition wil he?
> > evasion noted.

Asking someone to define an overall definition of what they think the
work "Terrorism" encompasses, isn't quite as easy as asking them what
they'd like to drink.


>> Nope . so what? YOU brought up the point of "it depends what one defines
>> terrorism as"
>> So im asking you. what do you define it as?
>> You are evading the answer.


No evasion was intended. I consider acts that could be termed as
"Terrorist" on a one by one basis. Was EVERYTHING ever done by the
IRA, terrorist acts? No. Were some? Yes.


>>So what? every act done by Islamists are terrorism either! The IRA
>>endorsed a campaign which killed civilians. women and children. Not just
>>soldiers! anyone >>saying this was "defending their country" as you have
>>is about in the same boat as someone caloling the MuJIHADeen or Al Khyda
>>"freedom fighters"


Just like everything else, be-a-con, there are shades of grey. This is
something you seem to have difficultly with understanding.


>>I have no problem in understanding that you CANT muddy the waters on this
>>one! If you do you then have to accept that there are "shades of grey"
>>Muslim >>actions and that some of these might well be justified. But let
>>me ask you. what IRA attack which killed civilians in the last 30 years do
>>you thing was justified. >>name even ONE! Now if you go on to them killing
>>soldiers then how is that different from Iraqi insurgents killing
>>occupying troops?
 

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