Is Mainstream Bad?

azemkamikaze03

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Well, this has kind of puzzled me alot of people have issues with mainstream rock and **** and claim bands sellout...ie AFI, Greenday, 10 yrs, etc. I mean I don't see how they've sold out...even if you don't like their music they still produce legit music versus the rap mainstream where rappers like Eminem have sold out where now all he does is make weird sounds and bawks like a chicken and gets a check. I hate when people say bands have sold out just becuase they get popular and it kind of puzzles me. Please explain to me what you think mainstream is and what selling out is...becuase to me it sounds like the minute a band gets to famous they are sold out
 

misery

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It's just a way for the people who for some reason hate mainstream music to rag on the popular bands. I don't know why.. I mean, some people won't listen to music just because it is 'mainstream'. They don't care how the music sounds, because if people like it, they have to be different. And the worst part is, people who refuse to listen to mainstream music think they are better than everyone who does.

I listen to music that I think sounds good, regardless of whether or not it's 'mainstream', and everyone else should do the same.

 

Mikes_Shadow

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^I agree.

People seem to get sick of hearing/about the exact same thing over again it gets really boring or something like that.

 

acdcrules04

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People say that bands aren't cool because they are mainstream because they want to 'set themselfes apart from the crowd'. In doing so they just become another emo ***** for me to pick on. yay. At least I'm well supplied.

Bottom line. If you don't like the music, shut up. I don't rag on hawthorne heights and **** like that all the time. Stop your ******** and grow up.

 

linkinpark-1

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haha...i like old school mainstream...lol...yea...but it's still mainstream...I did the math and I'm 42.6% mainstream...so i can't deny it...it's not a bad thing. But there is a point where music can become overrated, and that gets confused for mainstream a lot.
 

Jeezy

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I don't care if it is mainstream or whatever...as long as it is good music...

And because you spoke of Eminem...I think that he will have deeper and way more better songs on his next CD than he had on the last one he put out...

 
Put simply, & quite cliche at this point, but if I like it, I listen to it. If I don't, then I may complain a little (Evanesence or however it's spelled, lol), but usually not take it further then that.

This is more suited for Other Artists, so, MOVE'D!

 

Toxic1

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If it's great music, then it's great music. However, 95% of the music on radio is ****. Mainstream music was alot better in the 60s & 70s and a little bit into the 80s. But nowadays the majority of great innovative and creative music and songwriters are coming from the indie world.
 

LPpinkfreak821

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In my opinion. . . .

People dislike mainstream because so many people listen to it. I mean some people actually stop listening to a certian band because now everyone is listening to it & it becomes mainstream. These people would rather keep bands all to themselves & not have other people listen to them.

Mainstream isn't bad.

Everyone that has replied seems to have a great point. I mean thats how a lot of people work. Some will absolutely love a band and then stop listening to it because now it's Mainstream or because a lot of people listen to it now. They just want to be different & dont get me wrong, but I think thats ridiculous. Why give up something you love all because other people listen to it!?

 

Toxic1

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In my opinion. . . .
These people would rather keep bands all to themselves & not have other people listen to them.
Not entirely true. There are some that are like that. I actually try to introduce many people all the time to a lot of the stuff I listen to. And many of the other people that listen to these indie artists usually do the same. Word of mouth. And with that said.......some people give it a try and some don't. I tend to see most people on here don't and won't unless it has been on MTV or the radio which is pretty sad.

 

djwakka

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IMHO, a sellout is someone who changes his or her style as they gain publicity. For example, DJ Shadow is signed to Universal but isn't considered a sellout to anybody because his style is still unique, original, and most importantly, consistent. For an example of a sellout, if you liked 50 Cent's old mixtapes and compilations with R&B artists like J.Lo, chances are you didn't like his Get Rich or yada-yada and beyond. Jadakiss and Fat Joe also fit in this category.

Linkin Park is a gray area. Each album has a different style and theme. Even their own fans disagree with eachother; some fans of the classic groundbreaking Hybrid Theory don't like the more alternative Meteora album, vice versa, etc.

Most people, including myself, who don't like mainstream music isn't because they're popular, but because the radio has a negative effect on the genre. FM radio has peaked with insensitivity and redundancy, and its sole purpose now is to make money. Not all of the artists correlate to their frequently aired radio stations.

Method Man on Wendy Williams:

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/du1UViOs4Hk?feature=oembed
Jin's Radio Response:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=C378855B247703A1

Hip-hop Rally. Save links as:

http://www.hiphopliveshere.com/mm/video/rallytrailer.mov

http://www.hiphopliveshere.com/mm/video/immortaltechnique.mov

http://www.hiphopliveshere.com/mm/video/caz.mov

 

Toxic1

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IMHO, a sellout is someone who changes his or her style as they gain publicity. For example, DJ Shadow is signed to Universal but isn't considered a sellout to anybody because his style is still unique, original, and most importantly, consistent. For an example of a sellout, if you liked 50 Cent's old mixtapes and compilations with R&B artists like J.Lo, chances are you didn't like his Get Rich or yada-yada and beyond. Jadakiss and Fat Joe also fit in this category.
Linkin Park is a gray area. Each album has a different style and theme. Even their own fans disagree with eachother; some fans of the classic groundbreaking Hybrid Theory don't like the more alternative Meteora album, vice versa, etc.

Most people, including myself, who don't like mainstream music isn't because they're popular, but because the radio has a negative effect on the genre. FM radio has peaked with insensitivity and redundancy, and its sole purpose now is to make money. Not all of the artists correlate to their frequently aired radio stations.
Nice points......

 

azemkamikaze03

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I think FM radio is not meant to play underground. Majority of people want to hear something to bounce to not an underground indepth lyrical complex song. If they wanted that they'd get XM radio. Most people just want to listen to what ever is hot and catchy. Wutang, MethodMan and Jin are awesome rappers but I mean their most indepth best songs are neccesarily clubbangers. So I think it's logical to give the people what they want from an FM radio perspective.
 

Stenners

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To me a sell out is a band that changes not only its sound but its image to get new fans No Doubt would be a classic band that sold out so badly so quickly that they might as well of changed their name. The change in sound must be on that is designed to gain more fans and increase record sales.

I did the math im 42.6% mainstream according to some *** awful maths thing which took me hours to do (okay im slow) im in love with 90's mainstream rock lol I cant help myself but o well :D I perfer Indie rock to most of the stuff on the radio, its not neccisarily **** if its popular but the sad thing is the majority is and only a small minority isn't.

 

Toxic1

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I think FM radio is not meant to play underground. Majority of people want to hear something to bounce to not an underground indepth lyrical complex song. If they wanted that they'd get XM radio. Most people just want to listen to what ever is hot and catchy. Wutang' date=' MethodMan and Jin are awesome rappers but I mean their most indepth best songs are neccesarily clubbangers. So I think it's logical to give the people what they want from an FM radio perspective.[/quote']
You'd make a good radio exec. "Yes Capitol, yes Sony, yes Warner. People are not intelligent, so we'll think for them and tell them what they should be listening to by rubbing in the same stuff over and over. OK....ok, I'll make sure we play the new Nickelback single at least 2-3 times per hour."

Don't get to caught up thinking that all indie music is complex and/or uncatchy. There are so many catchy songs. And they will be ignored, for the inferior money making bands and choones must play on without interruption. Music biz 101......
 

Stenners

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Indie music has many catchy moments, where I live Inidie Rock clubs are in their dozens and getting more and more popular.
 

azemkamikaze03

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You'd make a good radio exec. "Yes Capitol, yes Sony, yes Warner. People are not intelligent, so we'll think for them and tell them what they should be listening to by rubbing in the same stuff over and over. OK....ok, I'll make sure we play the new Nickelback single at least 2-3 times per hour."
Don't get to caught up thinking that all indie music is complex and/or uncatchy. There are so many catchy songs. And they will be ignored, for the inferior money making bands and choones must play on without interruption. Music biz 101......

First things first I wouldn't becuase I'm not a cruel man. I have a heart that wouldn't allow me to lie to the people and feed them ****** ******* loops and call it music. I hardly listen to the radio or watch MTV unless its a friday/saturday and I'm chilling with my buddies. There are some catchy indie songs I'll admit. But in general only dumbed down lyrics are what catch the peoples eyes. Doesn't take a genouis to tell you that. Go to your school and chances are majoirty of white rockers don't listen to rap. But the few that do only know the Lil' Jons, David Banners, 50 Cents ect. (In General) Does that mean they are idiots yes.(no not really) They've been bred just as every child has to love catchy HOOKS and CHORUS(es?) and that's it. When I go to a party i'm not looking to hear some deep underground **** I'm looking to hear some freakin Lil John Club Mix and Paris Hilton Stars are blind Reggaeton Remix. Becuase that's what gets the groove going. That's what sounds best in your speaker system, thats what the majority of the world that acttually listens to music likes thats life.

Indie music has many catchy moments, where I live Inidie Rock clubs are in their dozens and getting more and more popular.
Moments aren't good enough Stenners you should know that! And at what rate is indie getting more popular? Becuase lol down here it's pretty ******* slow. And when an Indie group gets popular they are no longer indie(pendant) becuase the chances are that group just got signed to a mjaor lable.

Anyways...what's new?

Not a bad thing to go mainstream in my opinion. In life no ones here to not become famous...if they are well then either they are very very very courages...or their like Carlos Mencia's dumb *** noise thing where he goes "Dur De Dur!"(or however it is)

 

Toxic1

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There's stuff that can blow away the **** they play at most clubs. I usually think "man.......if only they can play this or that or this, it would be quite an experience." And to me this is what sounds best in a speaker system in my world. And could very well for the unexpecting folks. Knock 'em out with something special that they didn't see coming. Not just the typical stuff.......
 
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