Is Mainstream Bad?

[Clogz]

Green Day was an amazing band until American Idiot came out. The album was a switch, and sadly the weakness in thier musicianship bled through like the hand on the CD. Some songs on the album were truly good, I won't deny that. "American Idiot" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" are pretty good songs, but then you have stuff on there like "Jesus of Suburbia".

JoS was supposed one of the defining tracks on the record, but what it sounded like to me was a couple catchy thirty-sixty seconds songs that they couldn't do anything with, so they strung them togather. Combine that with the merely decent guitar and bass and vocals, and there isn't much to say about that.

The biggest problems with American Idiot is that Green Day has stretched themselves to far. The pop music world loved them, but frankly they are not that great on this album. They don't have the talent to pull togather the massive project they tried to do. But they don't know this - because it seems they have gotten quite arrogant over the whole thing.

And on a side note, I hear enough politics as it is. Keep it out of my music, for ***'s sake!

 

[azemkamikaze03]

lol

well obvioulsy American Idiot wasnt there best album it eventually happens to everyone but I mean when you put all the peices together you begin to understand why it might not be the greenday you pray for. But i mean its like saying Areosmith sucks becuase their last albums werent so hot.

 

[Yackiestinger]

Thank *** they broke up last week

they did?

I didn't know that

 

[FireHawk]

they did? I didn't know that

yeah this time its for good I belive according to http://www.ultimate-guitar.com

 

[FTboy18]

I really perfer underground music to mainstream. Only in terms of the freedom and direction you want to take without a producer or promoter telling you to sound like this band or ordering you to tour places you don't feel comfortable in. Things like that.

 

[FireHawk]

yeah and plus u won't get watered down

 

[o0SugaxNxSpice0o]

I don't think mainstream music is bad itself as essentially it helps people find out and listen to those bands which are more accessible. All music can be bad, even the "underground" ones. You just have to pick out the bad from the good I guess =]

It just ****** me off that people will go out of their way to hate on music for the only reason that it's "mainstream" and "popular". That's ridiculous.

 

[djwakka]

It just ****** me off that people will go out of their way to hate on music for the only reason that it's "mainstream" and "popular". That's ridiculous.

Did you even read before you posted?

Most people, including myself, who don't like mainstream music isn't because they're popular, but because the radio among other medias have a negative effect on the genre(s). FM radio has peaked with insensitivity and extreme redundancy, and its sole purpose now is to make money. Not all of the artists correlate to their frequently aired radio stations but many do.

 

[Toxic1]

I don't think mainstream music is bad itself as essentially it helps people find out and listen to those bands which are more accessible. All music can be bad' date=' even the "underground" ones. You just have to pick out the bad from the good I guess =']
It just ****** me off that people will go out of their way to hate on music for the only reason that it's "mainstream" and "popular". That's ridiculous.

Wow.....it's like you read the title and made a reply without even bothering to read what others in the thread discussed up to this point.

By the way......with mainstream I'm picking out almost everything as bad. I say it's around 95% bad. Within the wide world of indie it's 50/50 to me. The best stuff comes from the independent side of music. Where MUSIC actually matters.

 

[azemkamikaze03]

95 percent of mainstream is bad...hmmm

I suppose you have some facts, numbers, universal definitions, definitions in relation to lyrics, every single plaid since the introduction of radio, etc.

Lol.

just messing with ya.

I just like how only 5 percent of radio music is good in your opinion

In general for most muscicians its not about the music people. What person goes...man I want to start a band that just to make music? In general most people do it becuase they want to be rich. Ladies, ect. Making the best music ever is just something like a bonus.

Lol reality check people.

 

[Toxic1]

95 percent of mainstream is bad...hmmm
I suppose you have some facts, numbers, universal definitions, definitions in relation to lyrics, every single plaid since the introduction of radio, etc.

Lol.

just messing with ya.

I just like how only 5 percent of radio music is good in your opinion

In general for most muscicians its not about the music people. What person goes...man I want to start a band that just to make music? In general most people do it becuase they want to be rich. Ladies, ect. Making the best music ever is just something like a bonus.

Lol reality check people.

95% is just my opinion. I'm sure other people that like radio will think I'm delusional. But all they know is radio most times. I get to hear from both mainstream and independent. There is good stuff on radio, just not that much anymore.

For your other comments, you over-generalized everybody that makes music. Good one. You are way off your rocker. And wrong......

Music for most is about expression......

And for some it's just a dream of fame......unfortunately.

Fame should be considered a huge bonus and break.

 

[azemkamikaze03]

For your other comments, you over-generalized everybody that makes music. Good one. You are way off your rocker. And wrong......

Okay there are a few good legit bands that don't want money for it becuase their jobs are good enough for them...but honestly there aren't many. Doesn't take a genious. I am far from wrong I'll admit that. Lol.

In no way was that over generalized. I don't see bands performing concerts and live stuff for free **** they are looking for money not just impressing the people.

 

[Toxic1]

Okay there are a few good legit bands that don't want money for it becuase their jobs are good enough for them...but honestly there aren't many. Doesn't take a genious. I am far from wrong I'll admit that. Lol.
In no way was that over generalized. I don't see bands performing concerts and live stuff for free **** they are looking for money not just impressing the people.

Of course they need money. They have to make a living if they are doing what they love full time. Which is music alot of the time. Most indie bands know what it takes to be radio friendly and be used by the major record labels. They have to give up a lot of their vision and their artistic creativity. In painters terms, they have to hand over their palette of colours and are told how to paint. Most bands I listen to, and many indie bands in general, wish not to give their vision up and are content to make a living by touring their ***** off and splitting record profits with a indie label.

The music business isn't that easy to pin down. You are stating things like they are facts, and it's far from being that way.