Minn. court rules for Franken in Senate fight

[RoyalOrleans]

Al Franken is a world class douchebag.

He is a true void surrounded by a sphincter muscle.

The people of Minnesota are in for a real treat on this one. Even Cynthia McKinney doesn't come close. She's actually charming.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

This 60 vote majority is where the 'fun' really begins, the GOP isn't even a speed bump any more. It's poetic this happened on the week of the 4th.

It doesn't matter if the Democrats drive the ecomnomy off a cliff, as long as they can steal elections. '10 and '12 are looking more dicey every day.

Roll over and play dead.

 

[phreakwars]

At least they don't need to call the Republicans the obstructionist party anymore. Now we can call them THE "Just sit down, shut the fukk up, and let the Democrats (ONCE AGAIN) fix this huge *** mess you made" party.

I love it. Truly a day for celebration and elation.

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[timesjoke]

Just exactly how do you fix a mess by making it worse?

They are blindly tossing money at problems hoping an indicator will rise at the same time so they can claim victory. Maybe that was the real meaning behind Obama's "HOPE" message:

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The only agenda is one of control over the masses, by controlling the banks, the production jobs, and even our medical care, they will control all the people.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

At least they don't need to call the Republicans the obstructionist party anymore. Now we can call them THE "Just sit down, shut the fukk up, and let the Democrats (ONCE AGAIN) fix this huge *** mess you made" party.
I love it. Truly a day for celebration and elation.

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I hate it, but I fukken concur.

Although grotesquely wrong in most of their policies and beliefs, Democrats (ie: the Progressives) are not scared to push their agenda. The GOP has been frightened of criticism that may have resulted from pushing their agenda, so the milktoast solution is to talk big and do the same old thing.

Imagine being Norm Coleman. Imagine being remembered as the guy who lost to Al Franken.

Mazal tov and B'hatzlacha!, Senator Comrade Franken!

 

[phreakwars]

Yes, Democrats are out to control your lives... Muwahahaha. And thanks to your Republican representatives ******** it all up in the first place, the voters have decided it's what they want. All you can do now is sit back, cry like the babies you are, and watch it happen.

Deal with it. But don't worry. Fox News has been given the OK by the courts to report to you what you want to hear (I.E. LIE) anyway, they'll be there to tell you how evil them liberals are.

http://www.ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_to_misinform_public.html

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[timesjoke]

lol, I am sure your not nieve enough to believe Fox is the only network that twists stories. Fox is the new kid on the block and the other networks have been doing this for as long as I can remember.

ABC, NBC, and CBS on top of CNN and MSNBC have all been in Obama's pocket for over a year and refuse to say anything negative about him, some have been twisting the truth about his health care and cap and trade deals from square one because they are all now no longer news agencies but instead extensions of the Democratic party.

An interesting side to that though, all these networks that have given up reporting news and turned into part of the Democrat party have terrible ratings on their news programs, I wonder why, lol.

 

[phreakwars]

And an interesting twist to that, is these same people that give fox that high rating, voted DEMOCRAT as well. I wonder why?

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[timesjoke]

And an interesting twist to that, is these same people that give fox that high rating, voted DEMOCRAT as well. I wonder why?

Well I wonder what your source is for that, but it is a fact that Hillary got more fair treatment during her campaign from Fox than any other Network out there. The big Networks all wanted Obama to win so they were not shy about busting down everyone else even fellow Liberls in order to do everything they could to help Obama.......just like now.

While they are certainly more conservative leaning, Fox in not "in the can" for anyone to that point, maybe they will get that bad one day like the other Networks, but they are still babies on the market compared to the big Networks and beating them in many of the most valuable ratings so they must be doing something right.

So Bender, if what you say is true and the unbiased liberals are now turning to Fox for their news and such, what does that tell you about how badly corrupt the Democrat controlled Networks of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and MSNBC really are?

One thing nice about the Liberals/Socialists getting full control is they can stop pretending everything is Bush's fault. Bush had a majority Congress as liberals so hardly any of this mess is really his doing anyway but now the Liberals own all brances of Government, they have nobody but themselves to blame.

 

[phreakwars]

Well I wonder what your source is for that, but it is a fact that Hillary got more fair treatment during her campaign from Fox than any other Network out there. The big Networks all wanted Obama to win so they were not shy about busting down everyone else even fellow Liberls in order to do everything they could to help Obama.......just like now.

Yeah, Reverend wright on the screen every day with that same 10 second clip "*** **** AMERICA" over and over... yeah... they were sure on Obama's side..

While they are certainly more conservative leaning, Fox in not "in the can" for anyone to that point, maybe they will get that bad one day like the other Networks, but they are still babies on the market compared to the big Networks and beating them in many of the most valuable ratings so they must be doing something right.

Bull . **** they even ADMITTED they are a REPUBLICAN broadcasting station.

So Bender, if what you say is true and the unbiased liberals are now turning to Fox for their news and such, what does that tell you about how badly corrupt the Democrat controlled Networks of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and MSNBC really are?

Actually, they turn to FOX to see what kind of horse trash talk is being spewed.

One thing nice about the Liberals/Socialists getting full control is they can stop pretending everything is Bush's fault. Bush had a majority Congress as liberals so hardly any of this mess is really his doing anyway but now the Liberals own all brances of Government, they have nobody but themselves to blame.

The Republican party is, if anything, the delusion party that wants all the glory and none of the guilt (might explain the *** worshipping thing too).
Having an actual surplus, no credit to President Clinton... that was the Republicans in the house see.... 8 years of failed policy by Bush... oh that was all the fault of a 2 year house of Democrats see.

Now that we have full control, things will actually get done. Republicans will of course, be ******** and complaining the whole way, but in the end, when it works out for everyone including them, they'll be the first to talk and say "OH YEAH, I WAS ONE OF THE FEW WHO WANTED THIS, AND BLAH BLAH BLAH"

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[hugo]

The blue dog Dems may save us from being totally screwed.

 

[phreakwars]

Just exactly how do you fix a mess by making it worse?
They are blindly tossing money at problems hoping an indicator will rise at the same time so they can claim victory. Maybe that was the real meaning behind Obama's "HOPE" message:

The only agenda is one of control over the masses, by controlling the banks, the production jobs, and even our medical care, they will control all the people.

And what do they want to do that for Mr. Alex Jones?

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[timesjoke]

Bla, Bla, Bla

All tired stuff Bender, you can't complain about Fox, the small time Network all on it's own against the purely Democratic controlled ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN. They all do way more twisting and lies in one day then Fox could ever do in a thousand years.....just look at the pandering way they are treating his healthcare bill and how you never hear anything negative about the cap and trade bill that is going to increase costs to the poor for basic needs like power many times over.

Actually, they turn to FOX to see what kind of horse trash talk is being spewed.

So the other Networks are so boring and corrupt they cannot stand to even look at the shows? Pretty sad, from my point of view, watching nothing would be better I would imagine if these guys were really thinking it was horse ****.

Clearly they are not doing that, obviously even the liberals are tired of the way these big players have all sold their souls to the Democratic party and stopped reporting the news.

Again, it is pretty bad that Hillery got more fair and open treatment on Fox than any of the other Networks, that proves they have sold out.

Having an actual surplus, no credit to President Clinton...

Actually I do give Clinton credit for that.

Do you think Obama is going to have a surplus after all this deficit spending he is pushing? We are already out of money, and Obama wants to dig the hole way, way deeper without a way to pay for it.

Obama is on track to quadruple the hole he "inherited" from Bush, is that an improvement in your eyes?

 

[phreakwars]

All tired stuff Bender, you can't complain about Fox, the small time Network all on it's own against the purely Democratic controlled ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN. They all do way more twisting and lies in one day then Fox could ever do in a thousand years.....just look at the pandering way they are treating his healthcare bill and how you never hear anything negative about the cap and trade bill that is going to increase costs to the poor for basic needs like power many times over.

Oh I see, you wanna put a BLA BLA BLA in place of my quote so you can avoid the Reverend Wright fiasco that all the networks used fact that disproves your "LIBERAL MEDIA" claim

So the other Networks are so boring and corrupt they cannot stand to even look at the shows? Pretty sad, from my point of view, watching nothing would be better I would imagine if these guys were really thinking it was horse ****.

Actually, they don't wanna watch, but are forced to so they can time and time again keep debunking all the lies the Rupert Murdock channel spews.

Clearly they are not doing that, obviously even the liberals are tired of the way these big players have all sold their souls to the Democratic party and stopped reporting the news.

Clearly you don't watch any news program and only pick and choose the ones you think people watch and then turn around and claim EVERY program is "LIBERAL MEDIA"

Again, it is pretty bad that Hillery got more fair and open treatment on Fox than any of the other Networks, that proves they have sold out.

Again, what would they sell out for Mr. Alex Jones? That's a far fetched claim to back up.

Actually I do give Clinton credit for that.
Do you think Obama is going to have a surplus after all this deficit spending he is pushing? We are already out of money, and Obama wants to dig the hole way, way deeper without a way to pay for it.

Obama is on track to quadruple the hole he "inherited" from Bush, is that an improvement in your eyes?

Nope, not at all. In fact, I'm guessing he will have about a 20 trillion+ deficit. Maybe even 30 trillion. So what's the problem? Money isn't real. But that's the sad reality of what it's gonna cost to fix Bush's screw up. You Republicans drove the country into the ditch, why are you now complaining about the cost of the tow truck?

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[timesjoke]

Oh I see, you wanna put a BLA BLA BLA in place of my quote so you can avoid the Reverend Wright fiasco that all the networks used fact that disproves your "LIBERAL MEDIA" claim

Because it didn't happen. None of those Networks ran the Wright stuff very much, sure at first and a couple token airings of the video but that was only to keep people from all turning to Fox.

I gave you examples too, like the health "debate" Obama had and these sold out liberal networks just do whatever he tells them to do.

Actually, they don't wanna watch, but are forced to so they can time and time again keep debunking all the lies the Rupert Murdock channel spews.

Well they are not debunking much if what your saying here is an example of your debunking, lol.

Like they really want to give Fox billions of dollars from advertisers because of them all watching the shows........right.

Clearly you don't watch any news program and only pick and choose the ones you think people watch and then turn around and claim EVERY program is "LIBERAL MEDIA"

No I turn to unbised media watch groups that count how many positive reports compared to negative reports each Network does of things like the health bill and Obama in general. All but Fox have been showing Obama a 87% or higher positive twist to their story lineup and veer away from anything that shows Obama or his policies in a bad light.

Again, what would they sell out for Mr. Alex Jones? That's a far fetched claim to back up.

Nope, just difficult for you too see with your blinders on.

Nope, not at all. In fact, I'm guessing he will have about a 20 trillion+ deficit. Maybe even 30 trillion. So what's the problem? Money isn't real. But that's the sad reality of what it's gonna cost to fix Bush's screw up. You Republicans drove the country into the ditch, why are you now complaining about the cost of the tow truck?

Then why the bragg about Clinton having a surplus and Bush having a deficit. If your saying Obama's much, much worse deficit is fine then so was Bush's much smaller one.....right?

Or do you practice double standards for Liberals/socialists?

 

[phreakwars]

Because it didn't happen. None of those Networks ran the Wright stuff very much, sure at first and a couple token airings of the video but that was only to keep people from all turning to Fox.

Are you smoking crack, I watched the myself night after night after night on all the networks EXCEPT Fox which I didn't tune into. Your "LIBERAL MEDIA" claim is an old, worn, tired, talking point, and an excuse to hate Obama. The media is NOT liberal, FOX just happens to be ALL RIGHTWING.

I gave you examples too, like the health "debate" Obama had and these sold out liberal networks just do whatever he tells them to do.

How bout the Church sponsored debate McCain had with him where McCain was pre read questions? More liberal media? Or are you gonna take the other path and deny it?

Well they are not debunking much if what your saying here is an example of your debunking, lol.
Like they really want to give Fox billions of dollars from advertisers because of them all watching the shows........right.

No, they need to watch for lies like this
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Notice the "D" next to Sanford's name? Fox news does like that CONSTANTLY. That's why you need watchdog groups to catch them on their BS lies.

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No I turn to unbised media watch groups that count how many positive reports compared to negative reports each Network does of things like the health bill and Obama in general. All but Fox have been showing Obama a 87% or higher positive twist to their story lineup and veer away from anything that shows Obama or his policies in a bad light.

What's the URL?

Nope, just difficult for you too see with your blinders on.

That was a blanket answer, not a real one. You can make these conspiracy claims and not back them up with any proof, reason, motive, or truth

Then why the bragg about Clinton having a surplus and Bush having a deficit. If your saying Obama's much, much worse deficit is fine then so was Bush's much smaller one.....right?
Or do you practice double standards for Liberals/socialists?

It's fine because of what he is using the money that he is spending for..

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[timesjoke]

Are you smoking crack, I watched the myself night after night after night on all the networks EXCEPT Fox which I didn't tune into. Your "LIBERAL MEDIA" claim is an old, worn, tired, talking point, and an excuse to hate Obama. The media is NOT liberal, FOX just happens to be ALL RIGHTWING.

Look, if your going to be so completely dishonest there really is no way to get through to you. There was no coverage as your describing, none, any claim by you that it did proves your just making stuff up.

How bout the Church sponsored debate McCain had with him where McCain was pre read questions? More liberal media? Or are you gonna take the other path and deny it?

Your gonna try to fly that after the 100% set up "town meeting" just happened? Please. Obama has messed up so many times in unscripted events like this they are now not allowing Obama to do them anymore. Now every question must be prescreened and a reply worked out ahead of time, and I bet you can't even say anything bad about that either can you?

In for a penny, in for a pound, that is the liberal way right?

No, they need to watch for lies like this

No lies, maybe a few mistakes but that hardly takes millions of viewers right? Your liberals are turning to Fox to watch the programming, that is making Fox billions of dollars, all these people would not being doing that if they hated Fox.....so try again.

What's the URL?

lol, no Bender, all the answers do not come from one place, you have to look around. I use many places like factcheck and even skewz can be a good place to get a big picture of many stories and how the general public see them.

In 2005 a guy named Tim Groseclose from ucla did a study where he proved the media bias. "Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left,"

Sense then many other studies have been done, I like this one a lot Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ) | Understanding News in the Information Age

They covered the 2008 election and found massive disparity in the number of positive stories for Obama and the negative stories about everyone else.

That was a blanket answer, not a real one. You can make these conspiracy claims and not back them up with any proof, reason, motive, or truth.

Because you do not want the answers anyway. Many great examples have already been offered and you ignore them all.

Power, the attainment and keeping of power Bender. Buying votes with unearned social entitlement programs that force the masses to be dependant on Government for everything vital for existence and then use scare tactce to stay in power because if you lose your power, they lose their "free" government goodies.

It's fine because of what he is using the money that he is spending for.

Oh, so lower deficits spent on conservative things is bad, much, much bigger deficits spent on social engineering programs is okay.....very open minded of you.........

What the money is spent on is meaningless if we bankrupt our Nation. Sooner or later China will stop buying our debt, the Euro will replace the USD as the World currency because Obama is devaluing the dollar faster then anyone ever thought possible.

Look at California, they are talking about shutting down their parks now.

 

[phreakwars]

Look, if your going to be so completely dishonest there really is no way to get through to you. There was no coverage as your describing, none, any claim by you that it did proves your just making stuff up.

I saw this with my own fukking eyes and I'm making up?

Your gonna try to fly that after the 100% set up "town meeting" just happened? Please. Obama has messed up so many times in unscripted events like this they are now not allowing Obama to do them anymore. Now every question must be prescreened and a reply worked out ahead of time, and I bet you can't even say anything bad about that either can you?
In for a penny, in for a pound, that is the liberal way right?

Yes he kept messing up, you say so... yet, a MAJORITY , 365 ELECTORALS WORTH) still figured he was better then the competition, just can't get over that can you?

No lies, maybe a few mistakes but that hardly takes millions of viewers right? Your liberals are turning to Fox to watch the programming, that is making Fox billions of dollars, all these people would not being doing that if they hated Fox.....so try again.

I guess your too dumb to realize FOX NEWS even went to court for the right to LIE. The Media Can Legally Lie

lol, no Bender, all the answers do not come from one place, you have to look around. I use many places like factcheck and even skewz can be a good place to get a big picture of many stories and how the general public see them.
In 2005 a guy named Tim Groseclose from ucla did a study where he proved the media bias. "Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left,"

Sense then many other studies have been done, I like this one a lot Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ) | Understanding News in the Information Age

They covered the 2008 election and found massive disparity in the number of positive stories for Obama and the negative stories about everyone else.

In other words, your lying. The internet is free, surely you can list all those exciting study case URL's. I just checked out the one you posted. The only thing I saw on there was favoribility in jornalism, which doesn't mean jack... it might even possibly mean he's doing favorable work, which I'm sure you don't want to consider, you'd much rather scram "LIBERAL MEDIA"

That was a blanket answer, not a real one. You can make these conspiracy claims and not back them up with any proof, reason, motive, or truth.

Because you do not want the answers anyway. Many great examples have already been offered and you ignore them all.

Power, the attainment and keeping of power Bender. Buying votes with unearned social entitlement programs that force the masses to be dependant on Government for everything vital for existence and then use scare tactce to stay in power because if you lose your power, they lose their "free" government goodies.

You say so Alex.

Oh, so lower deficits spent on conservative things is bad, much, much bigger deficits spent on social engineering programs is okay.....very open minded of you.........
What the money is spent on is meaningless if we bankrupt our Nation. Sooner or later China will stop buying our debt, the Euro will replace the USD as the World currency because Obama is devaluing the dollar faster then anyone ever thought possible.

Look at California, they are talking about shutting down their parks now.

Conservative things? You mean like unnessesary wars and such? Yeah, I can kinda see why people would disagree with that.
I don't worry about America going bankrupt for the simple reason that the whole **** world is going bankrupt.

If I needed $100 for grocery's, and you needed $100 for food as well, and we both owed each other $100, If I go bankrupt does that help you any? You sure as **** won't be getting that $100 from me, that's for sure.

So why worry about it? Afraid your gonna have to eat Sushi someday Alex?

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[timesjoke]

I saw this with my own fukking eyes and I'm making up?

You want to lend more weight to the small coverage than was there so that is what your mind "wants" to remember but the coverage was very soft for Obama:

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Yes he kept messing up, you say so... yet, a MAJORITY , 365 ELECTORALS WORTH) still figured he was better then the competition, just can't get over that can you?

No, I have no issue with that, just pointing out that Obama is all makeup and practiced grace, when you catch him outside of his practiced facade, he screws up. So far he has borken most of his campaign promses from who he said he would not allow in his cabinet to things like having bills ready for public viewing before they are voted on to his promise to find bipartisan solutions to everythign then once he got power he ignored these promises.

I guess your too dumb to realize FOX NEWS even went to court for the right to LIE.

And had the full support from all media because they were all telling lies long before Fox even came to be, please stop pretending.

In other words, your lying. The internet is free, surely you can list all those exciting study case URL's. I just checked out the one you posted. The only thing I saw on there was favoribility in jornalism, which doesn't mean jack... it might even possibly mean he's doing favorable work, which I'm sure you don't want to consider, you'd much rather scram "LIBERAL MEDIA"

Please, I have no reason to lie, just google what you want to find, I do not deal well with the lazy, the link I gave you has lots of studies on how the media reported in certain ways at different times like this study on how the 2008 election was covered:

Winning the Media Campaign | Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ)

Take some time and look around before you just assume it is bad. I knew you would not take the time to actually look around so why take my time to post links you will not look at anyway?

You say Alex.

Nice dodge of what you know you can't refute.

Conservative things? You mean like unnessesary wars and such? Yeah, I can kinda see why people would disagree with that.

I don't worry about America going bankrupt for the simple reason that the whole **** world is going bankrupt.

If I needed $100 for grocery's, and you needed $100 for food as well, and we both owed each other $100, If I go bankrupt does that help you any? You sure as **** won't be getting that $100 from me, that's for sure.

So why worry about it? Afraid your gonna have to eat Sushi someday Alex?

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Again you contradict yourself, if a deficit is bad for one group, it is bad for all. Obama wasted more tax money in two months of office than Bush spent in both Afganistan "AND" Iraq over 7 years.........so Obama is clearly jumping off the cliff.

 

[phreakwars]

You want to lend more weight to the small coverage than was there so that is what your mind "wants" to remember but the coverage was very soft for Obama:
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Your trying to call one thing something else. I believe that chart says TONE OF COVERAGE. To me that just shows McCain had bad ideas, and everybody knew it

No, I have no issue with that, just pointing out that Obama is all makeup and practiced grace, when you catch him outside of his practiced facade, he screws up. So far he has borken most of his campaign promses from who he said he would not allow in his cabinet to things like having bills ready for public viewing before they are voted on to his promise to find bipartisan solutions to everythign then once he got power he ignored these promises.And had the full support from all media because they were all telling lies long before Fox even came to be, please stop pretending.

He's broken 6 promises

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  End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
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  Allow five days of public comment before signing bills
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  Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials
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  Create a $3,000 tax credit for companies that add jobs
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  Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009
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  Recognize the Armenian genocide

 
Look it up, he made 500 of them:
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

Please, I have no reason to lie, just google what you want to find, I do not deal well with the lazy, the link I gave you has lots of studies on how the media reported in certain ways at different times like this study on how the 2008 election was covered:
Winning the Media Campaign | Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ)

Take some time and look around before you just assume it is bad. I knew you would not take the time to actually look around so why take my time to post links you will not look at anyway?

You make a claim and can't even back it up with proper URL's then call me lazy? Sure TJ, sure. How about a google search term at least?

Nice dodge of what you know you can't refute.

I don't need to refute anything. I'm not the one believing in conspiracys.

Again you contradict yourself, if a deficit is bad for one group, it is bad for all. Obama wasted more tax money in two months of office than Bush spent in both Afganistan "AND" Iraq over 7 years.........so Obama is clearly jumping off the cliff.

IDIOT, I'll say it again. IT'S WHAT THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON. Not how much. If king George wouldn't have wasted our money and started a needless war in the first place, we wouldn't have this problem. And NOW Obama is FORCED into spending more money, no not on war, but on people. And now the Complaint is he's spending it on people from the Republicans... typical, just typical... it's OK to spend billions on war, but one thin dime on human beings to actually have a life is socialism.

*** I am so glad we have a filibuster proof Senate now.

You and your Republican ilk just got downgraded. If anybody in America has any sense, you will forever remain the party who hates America and want to see it destroyed... JUST FOR POLITICAL POINTS.

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