More ACORN madness

[phreakwars]

Obama did this, Obama did that. So lets lay it on the line here..

What exactly is he guilty of? Knowing people?

Ohh, major crime there.

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[timesjoke]

What was the lie Bender? Why is it you dodge every direct question asked of you while everyone else here always answers every question or request you make?

As I already pointed out, it is not any "ONE" association that shows Obama for who he truly is, it is the many, many associations and comments that show this. You ever hear the old saying "birds of a feather flock together"?

'Judge me by the people who surround me' - Barack Obama

His own words Bender.

We look to who he has surrounded himself with his entire life and we see radical after radical who believe in everything from 9/11 being an inside job to forced abortions being reasonable. We see race pimps and anti-Government wackos.

 

[phreakwars]

What's with you accusing me of dodging question? WHAT QUESTION?

Edit: You mean what did Bush lie about?

WMD's

Sent troops to war under false pretenses. He should be sent to Hauge and executed for war crimes.

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[phreakwars]

Bush was so full of it, the best strategy for Dems to win the election was to simply show this to the Republicans who were thinking of making the same mistake over again.

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[timesjoke]

What's with you accusing me of dodging question? WHAT QUESTION?
Edit: You mean what did Bush lie about?

WMD's

Sent troops to war under false pretenses. He should be sent to Hauge and executed for war crimes.

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A lie means Bush knew there were no WMD's....how do you think he knew better than the intelligence agencies Bender?

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

 

 

 


"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

Even both Clintons agreed with the data, how can you say Bush lied when even they agreed with everything Bush said?

 

[phreakwars]

Clinton didn't send troops in though. Bush did.

Bush Lied, soldiers died.

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[phreakwars]

Getting back on Topic.

FAUX NEWS is too stupid to realize when someone from ACORN is fukking with them... HILARIOUS

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wVZJdBCQxY]YouTube - Caught in a Smear - Fox's Advocacy Nets Another Victim: Fox's Credibility[/ame]

 

[timesjoke]

Clinton didn't send troops in though. Bush did.
Bush Lied, soldiers died.

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Sending troops or not does not change the words to lie Bender.

So if Bush lied, so did both Clintons and many other liberals:


"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

 


"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

 


"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

 

 


"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

 

 


"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

So did all these people lie too?

 

[phreakwars]

Doesn't matter, none of them sent troops into a false war.

Bloods on Bush's hands, doesn't matter what anybody else said, Bush is the one who is ultimately responsible.

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[eddo]

Doesn't matter, none of them sent troops into a false war.
Bloods on Bush's hands, doesn't matter what anybody else said, Bush is the one who is ultimately responsible.

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Good thing Obama is gonna pull them all out immediately after he becomes president.

oh wait....

 

[timesjoke]

Doesn't matter, none of them sent troops into a false war.
Bloods on Bush's hands, doesn't matter what anybody else said, Bush is the one who is ultimately responsible.

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Yes they did Bender.

All of them voted on the action in support of it. Bush could not send troops into war without the Congress.

But the point was your claim of a lie, I offered you liberal after liberal including Bill Clinton all supporting what Bush said, so did everyone lie or not Bender.....why do you always dodge direct questions?

 

[ImWithStupid]

Doesn't matter, none of them sent troops into a false war.
Bloods on Bush's hands, doesn't matter what anybody else said, Bush is the one who is ultimately responsible.

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Really? I'm pretty sure Congress voted to allow Bush to act on Iraq and all of those people quoted, except Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy voted for it.

The President couldn't have gone in without Congress' approval.

 

[phreakwars]

Congress was LIED TO by Bush & Co..

Can't blame congress.

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[timesjoke]

Congress was LIED TO by Bush & Co..
Can't blame congress.

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Again, you keep talking about a lie, what lie are you talking about Bender? Instead of the dodging how about we narrow this down to the point of what was the lie?

Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton both had the same access to information that Bush had and both of them agreed with what Bush said so how can you claim Bush lied?

Do you think Bush was smarter than everyone else and was capable of reaching a different conclusion than they did when shown the same information?

 

[timesjoke]

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

 


"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration?s policy towards Iraq, I don?t think there can be any question about Saddam?s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002

 

[ImWithStupid]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64]YouTube - Gore criticizes Bush for ignoring Iraq's ties to terrorism[/ame]

 

[timesjoke]

Nice one IWS.

I keep asking Bender "what lie" he is talking about because for Bush to have told a lie, he would have had to know there were not any WMD's there. How is it a guy who everyone says is completely stupid know things nobody else knew, not even Bill Clinton and Al Gore?

I have many more quotes from liberals who got the same exact information Bush got all agreeing to the same conclusion Bush came up with. So for Bender's words to be true, all the liberal leadership had to be part of the lie as well.

Does Bender really believe that everyone was going along with Bush's lie? I really want to know why Bender believes Bush was somehow better equiped to see the truth from the reports that every liberal could not see.

 

[timesjoke]

Tape number 5 released today.

This time an ACORN worker offers to help smuggle the illegal underage girls into America, ACORN itself just said they are going to run their own investigation but we all know that is a farce.

This group needs to be fully investigated, I wonder if Obama will allow it?

 

[timesjoke]

Lie -

 


1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.


2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

What was the lie Bender?

What did Bush know that all these other people did not know? How did he arrive at the better conclusion and know the "truth" based on the same intel that everyone else including Bill Clinton said proved Iraq had WMD's?

If Bush had access to other sources of information, what were those sources? Please name them.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Just a little reminder to the dumb masses out there, Acorn is a creature of the Community Reinvestment Act. Thought you might like to be schooled a bit!

On Capitol Hill today the House Committee on Financial Services under Chairman Barney Frank is holding hearings on legislation supported by the Obama administration that would bring insurance companies and credit unions under the umbrella of CRA, placing new lending demands on these groups and opening them up to protests and pressure tactics by organizations like Acorn. As proof that Washington is a looking-glass world where basic values and logic get perverted, proponents of the new legislation claim we need more CRA to rein in the bad practices of the housing bubble, which is sort of like arguing that the cure for alcoholism is another martini. Any review of the history of the affordable mortgage movement in America demonstrates the power that CRA had in helping to shred mortgage underwriting standards throughout the industry and exposing us to the kind of market meltdown we've experienced.