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Free Lunch
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:33:47 GMT, in alt.atheism
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
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>"Free Lunch" wrote in message news:bedkt25jc2k340fjstt9r0ftctvkun83ns@4ax.com...
>
>> You are the one who calls atheism a belief system. I call you on your
>> lie. Atheism is not a form of belief. Lack of belief is not a system.
>
>A federal court has ruled that atheism IS a religion. Also, the Supreme Court has
>said that a religion need not be based on a belief in the existence of a supreme be-
>ing. In the 1961case of Torcaso v. Watkins, the Court described secular humanism
>as "a religion." http://www.afa.net/clp/ReleaseDetail.asp?id=102
If you weren't such a mark for the American Family Association, you
would know that they are trying to mislead you, again and you are trying
to mislead me. TORCASO v. WATKINS, 367 U.S. 488 (1961) has a footnote
that happens to include secular humanism in a list of religions, but
this wasn't actually a question directly related to the case. It takes a
great deal of dishonesty to go from a footnote about a particular
ethical teaching to your assertion that atheism is a religion. I notice
that AFA also failed to provide a citation for their claim about a
Seventh Circuit decision. Without the cite, it is impossible to know how
they managed to misrepresent it.
If you can ever get a cite for it, I'll be happy to discuss the
difference between legal treatments of those who don't believe in any
gods and what that means for the way people act. Until then, I'll just
deal with the fact that self-described Christians seem to enjoy lying.
>"Atheism is the religion whose belief about God is that there is no God."
> http://patriot.net/~bmcgin/atheismisareligion.txt
>
>Religion may be defined as a personal set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices relating
>to one's understanding of a deity. Atheists do not believe in Deity (God). They can
>not -prove- this. It is their BELIEF. It is in fact therefore their religion as affirmed
>by the courts.
So what. You cannot prove that you are not really controlled by Satan.
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
<vxECh.4343$Jl.388@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
>"Free Lunch" wrote in message news:bedkt25jc2k340fjstt9r0ftctvkun83ns@4ax.com...
>
>> You are the one who calls atheism a belief system. I call you on your
>> lie. Atheism is not a form of belief. Lack of belief is not a system.
>
>A federal court has ruled that atheism IS a religion. Also, the Supreme Court has
>said that a religion need not be based on a belief in the existence of a supreme be-
>ing. In the 1961case of Torcaso v. Watkins, the Court described secular humanism
>as "a religion." http://www.afa.net/clp/ReleaseDetail.asp?id=102
If you weren't such a mark for the American Family Association, you
would know that they are trying to mislead you, again and you are trying
to mislead me. TORCASO v. WATKINS, 367 U.S. 488 (1961) has a footnote
that happens to include secular humanism in a list of religions, but
this wasn't actually a question directly related to the case. It takes a
great deal of dishonesty to go from a footnote about a particular
ethical teaching to your assertion that atheism is a religion. I notice
that AFA also failed to provide a citation for their claim about a
Seventh Circuit decision. Without the cite, it is impossible to know how
they managed to misrepresent it.
If you can ever get a cite for it, I'll be happy to discuss the
difference between legal treatments of those who don't believe in any
gods and what that means for the way people act. Until then, I'll just
deal with the fact that self-described Christians seem to enjoy lying.
>"Atheism is the religion whose belief about God is that there is no God."
> http://patriot.net/~bmcgin/atheismisareligion.txt
>
>Religion may be defined as a personal set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices relating
>to one's understanding of a deity. Atheists do not believe in Deity (God). They can
>not -prove- this. It is their BELIEF. It is in fact therefore their religion as affirmed
>by the courts.
So what. You cannot prove that you are not really controlled by Satan.