Obama remark on black scholar's arrest angers cops

[snafu]

And I think that's the Trillion dollar question.

 

[phreakwars]

Well you can go one step farther and blame the racist brothers in arms that feel every thing done to them is because of the their race or creed. It's a two way street bro and I agree with you. So when do we meet in the middle?

Honestly, I think we will meet that middle ground once everyday average citizens get along with each other and each race (FAT CHANCE THIS LIFETIME). Until then, the guys that are gonna get the blunt end of the racial frustrations and tensions, are unfortunately, gonna be our law enforcement.

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[snafu]

Honestly, I think we will meet that middle ground once everyday average citizens get along with each other and each race(FAT CHANCE THIS LIFETIME).....

Sad but true. This is what I hate about our so called human society.

 

[hugo]

Honestly, I think we will meet that middle ground once everyday average citizens get along with each other and each race (FAT CHANCE THIS LIFETIME). Until then, the guys that are gonna get the blunt end of the racial frustrations and tensions, are unfortunately, gonna be our law enforcement..

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In the long run the ones who are suffering most are minority children who are being taught they cannot succeed. Therefore, they don't.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

What I don't understand, Gates walks with a cane. Yet he was forcing the door open with his shoulder.

Perhaps Gates carries the cane as a fashion accessory of sorts?

 

[ImWithStupid]

What I don't understand, Gates walks with a cane. Yet he was forcing the door open with his shoulder.
Perhaps Gates carries the cane as a fashion accessory of sorts?

Actually he broke his hip in a football injury.

 

[FuglyStick]

Yeah, sorry, Off Topic Forum, but I have no interest in participating in a community with dumbasses who refer to the President as the "messiah." Sorry, but you all enjoy yourselves

 

[ImWithStupid]

Yeah, sorry, Off Topic Forum, but I have no interest in participating in a community with dumbasses who refer to the President as the "messiah." Sorry, but you all enjoy yourselves

Thanks for checking us out. It's probably for the best. If your skin is that thin, then you probably wouldn't have enjoyed this place.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Actually he broke his hip in a football injury.

I was going to say breakdancing.

 

[Chi]

Yeah, sorry, Off Topic Forum, but I have no interest in participating in a community with dumbasses who refer to the President as the "messiah." Sorry, but you all enjoy yourselves

Oh boohoo, whatever will we do now??!!?

 

[Chi]

I don't give him any credit, blah, blah, blah...

Good thing your credit doesn't matter.

as a not much of an Obama fan myself, I gotta ask:
Were you on the phone call between the cop and Obama? How do you know Obama only gave "half an apology?"

Obama's comment was stupid, but as many have pointed out- Bush said all kinds of stupid stuff. I thought it was stupid to overly- critique Bush's mis-speaks, and I think it's equally as stupid to do it to Obama.

Should he have said it? No.

Has he behaved in overtly racist actions that would lead one to believe that he is a racist at heart and therefore shouldn't be leading our country? No again.

Is it the end of the world because of what Obama said? Not even close.

****, I would be overly satisfied if Obama learns nothing more than to say "Ya know, I really don't know all about that situation, so I shouldn't comment" line from this. More people need to learn that line.

Thank goodness for good sense and fair judgement.

 

[timesjoke]

Were you on the phone call between the cop and Obama? How do you know Obama only gave "half an apology?"

I saw the most powerful man in America publically call this officer stupid and insinuate he was a racist. This was done on the television to millions of viewers and has been replayed over and over again on the news and youtube.

An apology must reach the same level of the harm, and even greater to make ammends for the wrong, Obama has not done this. IWS already proved the harm done by Obama with his accusation goes a lot further than just a couple words spoke in haste.

In fact, he still says the officer was wrong to arrest his friend, so where is the apology?

 

[ImWithStupid]

Thank goodness for good sense and fair judgement.

Thing is, was this really just a misspeak. Robert Gibbs admits that the President was prepped for this question, before the press conference.

I think, in my opinion, that he couldn't help himself.

First off, I think he's way to arrogant to give a "no comment" because he's smarter than everyone else and it would bruise his ego if it appeared he didn't have an answer.

Secondly, I think he reverted to his base instinct as a Saul Alinsky community organizer and had to fan the flames because his true belief is that cops are racist.

Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals exerpts
The first step in community organization is community disorganization. The disruption of the present organization is the first step toward community organization. Present arrangements must be disorganized if they are to be displace by new patterns.... All change means disorganization of the old and organization of the new." p.116

"An organizer must stir up dissatifaction and discontent... He must create a mechanism that can drain off the underlying guilt for having accepted the previous situation for so long a time.p.117

He spent so many years stirring the **** using racial bias and classist rhetoric, he can't help it.

Same thing happened when he vilified wall street, executives, corportations, the car companies, etc...

Who is the President going to drum up hate against next, when he reverts to his roots?

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[timesjoke]

He spent so many years stirring the **** using racial bias and classist rhetoric, he can't help it.

Same thing happened when he vilified wall street, executives, corportations, the car companies, etc...

Who is the President going to drum up hate against next, when he reverts to his roots?

Exactly, this was my point too, but I didn't know Obama was already prepped for this question and his reply was already thought out. I thought this was just an automaitc reaction reply, not one he gave thought to, that makes it even worse.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Gates is a race pimp, with a new book, and he needed some free PR coverage. That's what it's all about, and obama helped out his buddy. Please note below;

"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles' date=' the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well." [/quote']
I venture to say Mr. Washington would agree this applies to individuals such as the Prof Gates, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama. And when Obama says reparations aren't enough it's because, if it was enough, the grievances would have to end, so he will bankrupt America, one piece at a time, throwing any and all entitlements he can make up at blacks.

Education is not one of them though, which is why he is against home schooling, charter schools and vouchers; because he and other race pimps don't want blacks to know that the KKK were orignially democrats, segregation was the democrats, Jim Crow laws were enforced by the democrats, slavery in general: democrats, and now they pretend to be the saviors for votes so that they can keep them on the welfare plantation.

 

[eddo]

Thing is, was this really just a misspeak. Robert Gibbs admits that the President was prepped for this question, before the press conference.

Honestly, that changes my opinion of this.

Got a link to a quote of Gibbs saying that?

edit:

Found it myself:

Jack Dunphy wrote at NRO:
Bret Baier, filling in for regular host Chris Wallace, asked Gibbs, “Before Wednesday’s news conference, did you prepare [the president] for a question about Henry Gates’s arrest in Cambridge?”

“Well, look,” said Gibbs, “Let’s just say it’s safe to say we went over a whole lot of topics that we thought might come up, and certainly this was a topic that was, has been in the news . . .”

source

so now we know the Pres knew and even prepped for a question about Gates' arrest. in that case, I think the press said exactly what he planned to say, and deserves every bit of flack he is now getting for sounding like a race baiting ***.

Very unprofessional to make any kind of comment without having the facts of the case.

 

[phreakwars]

911 caller in Gates arrest never referred to 'black suspects' - CNN.com

The cop lied in his report.

The woman who made the 911 call that led to the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. never referred to black suspects when she called authorities for what she thought was a potential break-in.
Police in Cambridge, Massachusetts, released the 911 phone call Monday. In the call, Lucia Whalen reports seeing "two larger men, one looked kind of Hispanic, but I'm not really sure, and the other one entered, and I didn't see what he looked like at all."

The dude also lied about wanting Gates to go outside because his yelling in the kitchen and foyer were too loud. He just wanted a reason to arrest him.
Sure looks like racial profiling to me.

Let me be clear: She never had a conversation with Sgt. Crowley at the scene," Murphy told CNN by phone. "And she never said to any police officer or to anybody 'two black men.' She never used the word 'black.' Period.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITl55WTyIRY]YouTube - Henry Louis Gates 911 tape[/ame]

Like I said before, you reap what you sow. If people weren't so **** racist in the first place, you wouldn't have educated black men so **** paranoid of the cops in the first place.

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[Chi]

Like I said before, you reap what you sow. If people weren't so **** racist in the first place, you wouldn't have educated black men so **** paranoid of the cops in the first place.

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Gates might've been hysterical and everything else, but yes, I agree with Bender's statement. I told my boyfriend the same thing days ago. You can't be racist to people and treat them like **** for hundreds of years (and some still to this day) and then wake up one day and expect all to be forgiven and act like it never happened.

 

[ImWithStupid]

The dude also lied about wanting Gates to go outside because his yelling in the kitchen and foyer were too loud. He just wanted a reason to arrest him.

Sure looks like racial profiling to me.

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I don't know what recording you were listening to, but I could hear someone in the background of the cop's traffic and him having to repeat himself several times and there was problems with him hearing dispatch also.

 

[phreakwars]

Oh come on, don't give me that. Like I said, I've used the same type of transmitters in very very loud conditions. I don't buy it for a second. You can't even hear Gates. And when the guy DID get interference, it's when he switched channels, I can hear dispatch telling him to go back to channel 2 (52 GO BACK TO CHANNEL 2 at time 6:25 into the clip), which is the channel he was originally on (from his own words in his report), but switched from. You could tell the new channel he went to wasn't coming in as clear. When he switched back to channel 2, he was crystal clear.

Plus, he contradicts himself in his report. On page 2 paragraph 2, he says he sent in his report to ECC, and in the 3rd paragraph, says he couldn't hear... so which was it?

The cop also lied about:

• [ ] The conversation with Whalen
  [ ] What the "suspects" were carrying (Whalen said suitcases to 911, not backpacks)
  [ ] Whalen's being "white"
  [ ] The reported race of the "suspects" before he identified them.
  

When I arried a _ Ware Street I radioed ECC and asked that they have the caller meet me at the front door to this residence. I was told that the caller was already outside. As I was getting this information, I climbed the porch stairs toward the front door. As I reached the door, a female voice called out to me. I turned and looked in the direction of the voice and observed a white female, later identified as Lucia Whalen. Whalen, who was standing on the sidewalk in front of the residence, held a wireless telephone in her hand and told me that it was she who called. She went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of _ Ware Street. She told me that her suspicions were aroused when she observed one of the men one of the men wedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry. Since I was the only police officer on location and had my back to the front door as I spoke with her, I asked that she wait for other responding officers while I investigated further.

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