Patriotism
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RoyalOrleans
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No one wants to fight for the goodness still left in the world. Society has become lackadaisical and **** near expects that goodness to be handed to them.
RoyalOrleans
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If everything is the fukken opposite of what it claims then why do you, wez, believe everything you read? Why site quotes? Why quote Jesus? Why quote a book review? - RO
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Your Jesus must be so proud.
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Is that something they teach you in nursing school?
Not discounting the moral authenticity of the character of Jesus, but I do have a problem with the actual historicity of his life. Maybe he was invented for the sake of the belittlement of lesser men?
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Geez! Play nice! If you guys are so fukking bored you can come work for me today. Patriotism is noble and necessary. If ya`can`t say anything nice, don`t say anything at all
I will!
I agree with you about patriotism.. as long as it's based on truth, justice, and equality.
Don't need to scream in kids faces, belittle them and strip them of their individuality to instill patriotism if that's the case.
RoyalOrleans
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Aww... pickles!Geez! Play nice! If you guys are so fukking bored you can come work for me today. Patriotism is noble and necessary. If ya`can`t say anything nice, don`t say anything at all
But, but... mom he cast the first stone.
RoyalOrleans
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Yeah... why aren't you tossing my salad?
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Can't say I'm patriotic about anywhere but the exact area I came from (eastern shore hardcore!). This government and this state give me nothing to be proud of. Why would I take pride in a mechanism for destruction and oppression accross the globe? Heck, I need not look so far as "the third word" to find examples of systematic oppression and destruction carried out by "my" country (Reference; any impoverished community, particularly aboriginal communities). The idea that we are a peaceful nation is a misconception; how can we call ourselves peaceful when the systems which facilitate our way of life (particularly the economic one, but that would be to simplify) necessitate violent exploitation of people and planet? A common knowledge example might be the peace/ prosperity provided by the **** regime to many of its citizens (a cliche at this point in history, but it seems the only one with which people are familiar), but to call that a true 'peace' would be rather short-sighted would it not? Our situation is no different. Unfortunately I've no room to escape this, opting out (cabin in the woods style) would simply save my concise.
I suppose I made some assumptions about how you choose to use patriotism, I've not read the whole thread, but I imagine the form of patriotism I am here attacking is somewhat obvious, or at least I hope so.
I do have some appreciation for the American constitution (not American) as it seems to make several attempts to allow for freedom (an ambiguous and poetic term akin to love, please think critically about the limitations and assumptions of that word). It seems to offer some good guidelines, though I question how such guidelines for 'freedom' can be institutionalized while maintaining their integrity. All that is a side I suppose; somewhat off topic, somewhat on.
Oh and taking pride in your country's ability to kill (Ref the jets); WTF?
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I suppose I made some assumptions about how you choose to use patriotism, I've not read the whole thread, but I imagine the form of patriotism I am here attacking is somewhat obvious, or at least I hope so.
I do have some appreciation for the American constitution (not American) as it seems to make several attempts to allow for freedom (an ambiguous and poetic term akin to love, please think critically about the limitations and assumptions of that word). It seems to offer some good guidelines, though I question how such guidelines for 'freedom' can be institutionalized while maintaining their integrity. All that is a side I suppose; somewhat off topic, somewhat on.
Oh and taking pride in your country's ability to kill (Ref the jets); WTF?
Zeeeep