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Agreed; Commies want big government. Their idea of it eventually falling from the hands of the 'party' into that of the people is silly, ******** always grab the reigns of power. I am not advocating communism. Folks around here seems so stuck in this "Yous either a pinko or a FREEDOM loving capitalist" state of mind. History has shown the **** of Friedman's version of the world quite aptly in Chilie, as the USSR showed the inevitable abuse of a communist state.Socialist "libertarianism' is simply a new name the Marxists picked out due to the fact the ideas of Marx have been a bit tainted by the actions of those who have come to power through the appeal to Marxist ideology. Like the socialists, who in the US stole the word liberal, due to the disdain for the word socialism in the US, the Marxists changed their name. Under any name it is quite impossible for the state to wither away when the proponents of Marxism favor every **** extension of government they can imagine. Power, once obtained, is seldom given up willfully. It irritates me as a libertarian, from the classical liberal tradition, to see the term libertarian associated with Marxism.
"As Nixon put it in his ineffable style, "It's that son of a ***** Allende. We're going to smash him." As early as October of 1970, the CIA had warned of possible consequences: "you have asked us to provoke chaos in Chile. ... We provide you with a formula for chaos which is unlikely to be bloodless. To dissimulate the U.S. involvement will be clearly impossible." The Pinochet dictatorship lasted 17 long and brutal years." A little help from your friends and you can have a the putty you want. But I suppose that more concern US then Friedman himself, though the economic productivity of Chile during those years doesn't say much for it either (Suppose as compared to the USSR, under constant economic sabotage by both the US and China, Chile faired pretty well).
There have been examples of working, small scale societies which did not function on capitalism and their "inherent evil nature' didn't get the better of them. The Mi'Kmaq nations are more real then unicorns, though I suppose we like to pretend they're not there. BUT we saw to it that such ways of life were properly smashed, probably never to rise again.
It seems to me these selfish/ destructive tendencies have arisen from those cultures which, by the mouth of a cannon, dominated and assimilated any and all who were otherwise getting by with less destructive/ domination based models (suppose thats Darwin though isn't it). We are now the products of those dominating cultures and pass that taint onto each new generation. We are all responsible, "its just that some are more responsible then others" . The peaceful and complacent majority allowed themselves to be taken over in all ways, and continue to do so. How many people are simply looking to live a happy life with their **** friends and family and be left alone? I'd say its a great majority. Who jeopardizes that simple aspiration? A self serving few without remorse and a knack for manipulation and exploitation. Its not the "Leeches" at the bottom who are the problem, its the jerks laying out the fishing nets for us all to get tangled in ( ty metaphor eh).
I don't want to see a state apparatus enforcing a guise of equality and 'freedom', neither communist nor capitalist, I want the simple family folk to realize that in order to ensure that they remain unsuppressed, un-manipulated, and fully empowered to take care of themselves (I can sing for my supper but I dunno how to make it) then they have to kick this to the curb. So long as this global capitalism exists, so long as states maintain their power over us, then this is a dream that will remain unfulfilled.
Oh and IWS-> George Orwell, in a letter to Francis A. Henson of the United Automobile Workers, dated 16 June 1949: "My recent novel [1984] is NOT intended as an attack on Socialism or on the British Labour Party (of which I am a supporter) but as a show-up of the perversions ... which have already been partly realized in Communism and Fascism. ...The scene of the book is laid in Britain in order to emphasize that the English-speaking races are not innately better than anyone else and that totalitarianism, if not fought against, could triumph anywhere." The way I am drawing on this book is to demonstrate the totalitarian side of our society as it resembles that of Orwell's Ingsoc.