Reflectionist

[Victim]

thanks and all, but I don't really recall you being much around when I was mod. but please correct me if I'm wrong.

lol, it's not like I had power to change things. one mod doesn't change much in that respect. besides, I was much too naive, and dumb as ****. I went all personal in against mark's attacks, which was a big mistake, because if you answer back you're giving the bully what they want. there was at one time when I was mod also a huge fight between various members. I remember being dragged into msn group conversations with people I was possibly going to ban. not smart. but yeah if what you're saying is true, that you guys do take a vote before kicking someone off, good on you. cause back then, we didn't take official vote, I think. ask Mouse though, he might remember better.

This is what I wanted you to understand/remember.. You want to sit here, and poke, poke, poke, out the flaws, and whether its intentional or not, it makes it look like they are OUR fault.. When in then end they aren't.. There are just some things that WE don't have the power to change.. I can work against this or that, and work for that and this.. but it doesn't mean I can change them... and not matter how much I try to explain it, people are still going to complain, and say we aren't doing anything, and its our faults, and why didn't we do this, or why did we do that.. You know exactly how that feels, and its important to remember, before you place ALL the blame on us.

And yes, I was around while you were a mod.. I have been here FOREVER.. I am not a very active poster, now and back then.

I just feel like I'm getting mixed signals. alright I can back up about Ref, although I'm not happy truth be told, but I'm speaking out in general. now, I can't judge how unfair or vicious I may be, but I'm speaking out the best I can.

you guys are telling me I'm saying bullshit, or so I get the feeling, yet there's this talk about us giving feed if we fell something is wrong. I dunno.

and yeah, I did say a whole lotta talk doesn't do much, yet I do it. why? cause I wanna change that.

I hope that at least that changes around here, cause I'm feeling quite alienated at the moment here. and maybe I can't ever say anything that you guys will accept as understandable by your standards, but I'm being honest here, from my standpoint.

This thread was honestly, or how I interpreted it to be, is just a thread for you guys to tell us how you felt about it, and for us to tell you in general about banning Jake, so when you found out, you wouldn't get all riled up and point fingers at us for not telling you.. This thread was not at all meant for you guys attempt to change our minds.

And I am glad you are speaking out.. Whether you think we are doing things with it or not, I can tell you WE are.. We aren't ignoring it, and we aren't going behind your back and saying, "Let him complain all he wants. We will never change anything" We are actually working to make changes,.. SO please don't stop what you are doing, in other cases, not Jakes, lol.

 

[Breakdown Conspiracy]

Ref can be annoying, but I find his posts amusing, when LPF is become a dull place full of random new kids who just post tons of pictures involving themselves and a mirror, and even when they are directed at me i let it fly. I dont know if its because we share similar opinions or what, but I dont care too much about Ref on LPF, i mean geez its a forum, not the real world, unless he is sending you hate mail, or calling you a "jew jew you ******* jew", get over it, you can simply ignore what he says and go take a walk outside. You can't win every argument (which ive found). I say he should be allowed to have a presence on this forum. You may say my opinion is formed this way because I havnt had a serious run-in with Ref, it may be the case, but its still my current opinion.

EDIT: Reading on, I see that ref has said hurtful things to people, this of course shouldn't be pardoned, but I still think that this is an internet forum, its not exactly the "real world" so we know people differently here, I know offense can still be taken, and if it is serious there should be consequences, but if people go crying to their internet blog about how some dude told them that their fave band, LP in mind, is useless and ****, they should build a bridge and GET OVER IT.

 

[GraDoN]

Ref can be annoying, but I find his posts amusing, when LPF is become a dull place full of random new kids who just post tons of pictures involving themselves and a mirror, and even when they are directed at me i let it fly. I dont know if its because we share similar opinions or what, but I dont care too much about Ref on LPF, i mean geez its a forum, not the real world, unless he is sending you hate mail, or calling you a "jew jew you ******* jew", get over it, you can simply ignore what he says and go take a walk outside. You can't win every argument (which ive found). I say he should be allowed to have a presence on this forum. You may say my opinion is formed this way because I havnt had a serious run-in with Ref, it may be the case, but its still my current opinion.

haha good post

 

[Friðbjörn]

This is what I wanted you to understand/remember.. You want to sit here, and poke, poke, poke, out the flaws, and whether its intentional or not, it makes it look like they are OUR fault.. When in then end they aren't.. There are just some things that WE don't have the power to change.. I can work against this or that, and work for that and this.. but it doesn't mean I can change them... and not matter how much I try to explain it, people are still going to complain, and say we aren't doing anything, and its our faults, and why didn't we do this, or why did we do that.. You know exactly how that feels, and its important to remember, before you place ALL the blame on us.
And yes, I was around while you were a mod.. I have been here FOREVER.. I am not a very active poster, now and back then.

of course I wanna poke poke poke. all authority needs to be questioned. you can't have a functioning community if the oligarchy always has all the say about everything and no one can say **** about that.

yes I know how you feel, to an extent. I've been as part of the staff under a pretty big shitstorm.

maybe you can call this, me and a couple others raging over this a shitstorm, I dunno, but I haven't seen anything big since back in '06 when I quit.

This thread was honestly, or how I interpreted it to be, is just a thread for you guys to tell us how you felt about it, and for us to tell you in general about banning Jake, so when you found out, you wouldn't get all riled up and point fingers at us for not telling you.. This thread was not at all meant for you guys attempt to change our minds.

And I am glad you are speaking out.. Whether you think we are doing things with it or not, I can tell you WE are.. We aren't ignoring it, and we aren't going behind your back and saying, "Let him complain all he wants. We will never change anything" We are actually working to make changes,.. SO please don't stop what you are doing, in other cases, not Jakes, lol.

alright fair enough. I'll get off your backs, for now.

 

[woodyloveslinkin]

LPF's a mini melodrama in itself

 

[Stenners]

LPF's a mini melodrama in itself

Cept it isnt really is it?

 

[woodyloveslinkin]

I dunno. I reckon it's a non-medical version of Grey's Anatomy. I sadly watch that as well.

 

[Stenners]

Not really, the arent many catalysts I would say Reflectionist, Makr, Myself and maybe Firehawk are the only catalysts left... but in different ways, we are just opinianated, Reflectionist was more volatile.

 

[azemkamikaze03]

lol alright guys u had ur say we had ours this thread is done