Report cites warnings before September 11, 2001...

[* US *]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:19:18 -0500, nonsense <nonsense@unsettled.com> wrote:

>... to blindly condemn everything Bush and his
>administration do.

No one had done that.

What would you imagine they'd done, in that vein,
which would've benefitted, rather than betrayed,
the majority of Americans?

Why would you not condemn mass murders?
Is your religion one of human sacrifice?

 

[* US *]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:33:25 -0500, nonsense <nonsense@unsettled.com> wrote:

>... offer the conspiracy theorists some
>KoolAid.

You even believe the babies of Baghdad
were out to get you, with nukes that they
never really had, in your freakish state
of paranoia.

 

[nonsense]

seon ferguson wrote:

> "nonsense" <nonsense@unsettled.com> wrote in message
> news:5f05c$46935d58$49e5de3$22446@DIALUPUSA.NET...
>
>>seon ferguson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"nonsense" <nonsense@unsettled.com> wrote in message
>>>news:56fe3$46923718$49e5da8$10825@DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>>
>>>
>>>>seon ferguson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"nonsense" <nonsense@unsettled.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:8d7da$46906180$49e5d51$23714@DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>seon ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"BDK" <BDK@shillsrus.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:MPG.20f98c9dcd1516a498b347@news.buckeye-express.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article <maednV8N_Jee9hLbnZ2dnUVZ_rzinZ2d@wideopenwest.com>,
>>>>>>>>wherewasIfriday@nowhere.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>seon ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:gNGji.11625$ya1.8663@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>seon ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:eeuji.11644$B25.162@news01.roc.ny...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>seon ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><bushlyed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:1183711908.550353.53070@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Jun 30, 11:23 pm, "John P."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><JohnP_Da_Evil_...@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Anonymous Loser" <AnonymousLo...@remailer.cyberiade.it>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote in a a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. intelligence officials had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>several warnings that terrorists might attack the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>States
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on its home soil -- even using airplanes as weapons -- well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>before the September 11, 2001 attacks, two congressional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>committees said in a report released Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>During the week of July 4, 2007, four people will die in car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>accidents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the interstate highways in and around the Chicago area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Armed with this specific information, stop it from happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Idiot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>First, you issue a warning about this so the hijackers know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tell the airline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And let the pilots carry freaking guns.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>You want this guy carrying a gun on an airplane?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/10/national/main1786964.shtml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hell no but guns could have prevented 911. If they had a gun they
>>>>>>>>>>>>could
>>>>>>>>>>>>just shoot the hijackers, since they only had box cutters and
>>>>>>>>>>>>stuff. I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>rather a few people died in the crossfire then 3,000 plus people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Wouldnt
>>>>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Of course. A lot of things other than guns could have prevented
>>>>>>>>>>>it. I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>rather they keep all weapons off the plane and have the ****pit
>>>>>>>>>>>door be
>>>>>>>>>>>reinforced and mandate it being locked before the plane starts to
>>>>>>>>>>>taxi.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Then what's stopping the muzzies from massacring the passengers?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just when I think you can't say anything dumber, you come up with
>>>>>>>>>something like this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have to admit that one, well, it's a "keeper".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I dont get it, whats stopping the Muzzies fine hikackers from killing
>>>>>>>all the passangers when they find they cant get to the pilot? How is
>>>>>>>that dumb?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You believe you can think like them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No because I'm not a religious nutball.
>>>>
>>>>It sounds as though you've placed yourself "in their shoes"
>>>>when it comes to deciding whether or not to kill all the passengers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>All I know is if I was robbing a bank and that security system came up I
>>>would look for the first customer to kill-just like if I was a crazy
>>>religious nut.
>>
>>Which, incidentally, makes you one.
>>
>
> I guess if I think about what i'd do if i was gay i'd be gay, or what i'd do
> if I was a alien I'd be a alien or a communist I'd be a well you get the
> picture.

You very badly need to start reading here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Here's the real comparison:

If you thought about what to do next while you were
giving a blow job, you'd be gay.

Good luck with your lies, I don't buy them.

 

[* US *]

Notice how the bushkultie falls back on fallacy
rather than deal with the fact that "just because
you imagine someone else did something else
that may have been wrong doesn't justify your
support of that which is wrong".

 

[* US *]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:46:52 -0500, nonsense <nonsense@unsettled.com> wrote:

>... very badly need to start reading here:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Let us know if you need more help.

 

[* US *]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:20:15 -0500, nonsense <nonsense@unsettled.com> wrote:

>seon ferguson wrote:
>> All I know is if I was robbing a bank and that security system came up I
>> would look for the first customer to kill-just like if I was a crazy
>> religious nut.
>
>Which, incidentally, makes you one.

That's merely a non sequitur.

 

[CRxx]

"liam o'shea" <

> You've already proven yourself a laughing fool in connection to the
> attainment of knowledge and facts - I would presume your ability to
> channel would be at the same level of astuteness.

Oh, It is. I am really talented.

Christine!

 

[CRxx]

"nonsense"

> If you thought about what to do next while you were
> giving a blow job, you'd be gay.

Are you really sure about that?

Christine, worried!

 

[CRxx]

"nonsense"

> > The Administration never realized that airplanes could be used as
> > weapons, as they were on 9/11. That's why they weren't able to prevent
> > it.
>
> Read about the Pacific War aspects of WW2.

That might have been viewed as a diffrent context at the time.

Christine!

 

[BDK]

In article <9d20$469360ec$49e5de3$22558@DIALUPUSA.NET>,
nonsense@unsettled.com says...
> BDK wrote:
>
> > In article <c568c$4692d8ed$49e5dd1$19068@DIALUPUSA.NET>,
> > nonsense@unsettled.com says...
> >
> >>BDK wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article <pr8493pfo9797m2g8fnqd7b1djcjf92qkq@4ax.com>, US says...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 22:26:04 +1000, "seon ferguson" <seon@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>< US > wrote in message news:mbnp83d01nmkl0393ska3kncsqkgdjllvi@4ax.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:14:29 -0500, "John P." <JohnP_Da_Bushkultie@MoronMe.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>If you think that is something new and exciting from the current
> >>>>>>>administration ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Nobody said that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You're saying that any wrong you ever even imagined
> >>>>>>anywhere else would justify all the wrongs you support.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At least thats what some people in this group do like the right wing kooks
> >>>>>whom shall remain nameless.
> >>>>
> >>>>Oh, they'll start shrieking.
> >>>>
> >>>>When anyone objects to the crimes they support,
> >>>>they always start whimpering 'but someone else
> >>>>did something else' as if it'd justify their errors.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:16:39 -0400, BDK <BDK@shillsrus.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>...I would like to read ...
> >>>>
> >>>>But you're a right-wing kook, so your masters
> >>>>don't allow you to do that.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>LOL, if you had half a brain, you would have figured out I'm about as
> >>>big a lefty as there is.
> >>>
> >>>But you don't have half a brain.
> >>>
> >>>You poor kook.
> >>
> >>Left and right meet again off the chart.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > LOL. Your handle is appropriate.
>
> Thanks for the compliment. Coming from almost anyone else....
>
>

Aww, how sweet.

You poor kook *******...

BDK

 

[nonsense]

CRxx wrote:
> "nonsense"
>
>
>>If you thought about what to do next while you were
>>giving a blow job, you'd be gay.
>
>
> Are you really sure about that?
>
> Christine, worried!


The original poster, certainly.

 

[nonsense]

CRxx wrote:

> "nonsense"
>
>
>>If you thought about what to do next while you were
>>giving a blow job, you'd be gay.
>
>
> Are you really sure about that?
>
> Christine, worried!
>
>

One further thought.

What's going on if a butch lesbian has sex with
a male of the species? ;-)

 

[nonsense]

CRxx wrote:

> "nonsense"
>
>
>>>The Administration never realized that airplanes could be used as
>>>weapons, as they were on 9/11. That's why they weren't able to prevent
>>>it.
>>
>>Read about the Pacific War aspects of WW2.
>
>
> That might have been viewed as a diffrent context at the time.

Which time, 1940's or 2001?

In 2001 we had a clear history of enemies using an airplane
as a bomb.

 

[nonsense]

BDK wrote:

> In article <9d20$469360ec$49e5de3$22558@DIALUPUSA.NET>,
> nonsense@unsettled.com says...
>
>>BDK wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <c568c$4692d8ed$49e5dd1$19068@DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>>>nonsense@unsettled.com says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>BDK wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <pr8493pfo9797m2g8fnqd7b1djcjf92qkq@4ax.com>, US says...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 22:26:04 +1000, "seon ferguson" <seon@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>< US > wrote in message news:mbnp83d01nmkl0393ska3kncsqkgdjllvi@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:14:29 -0500, "John P." <JohnP_Da_Bushkultie@MoronMe.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If you think that is something new and exciting from the current
>>>>>>>>>administration ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nobody said that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You're saying that any wrong you ever even imagined
>>>>>>>>anywhere else would justify all the wrongs you support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At least thats what some people in this group do like the right wing kooks
>>>>>>>whom shall remain nameless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, they'll start shrieking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When anyone objects to the crimes they support,
>>>>>>they always start whimpering 'but someone else
>>>>>>did something else' as if it'd justify their errors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:16:39 -0400, BDK <BDK@shillsrus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>...I would like to read ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But you're a right-wing kook, so your masters
>>>>>>don't allow you to do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL, if you had half a brain, you would have figured out I'm about as
>>>>>big a lefty as there is.
>>>>>
>>>>>But you don't have half a brain.
>>>>>
>>>>>You poor kook.
>>>>
>>>>Left and right meet again off the chart.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>LOL. Your handle is appropriate.
>>
>>Thanks for the compliment. Coming from almost anyone else....
>>
>>
>
>
> Aww, how sweet.
>
> You poor kook *******...

You have no comprehension, and no math whatever.

See, I told you left and right meet again off the chart,
and you wouldn't believe me, you poor kook *******.

 

[liam o'shea]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:26:56 +0200, "CRxx" <spam@christine.demon.nl>
wrote:

>
>"liam o'shea" <
>
>> You've already proven yourself a laughing fool in connection to the
>> attainment of knowledge and facts - I would presume your ability to
>> channel would be at the same level of astuteness.
>
>Oh, It is. I am really talented.
>
>Christine!
>

Some things are obvious, and that is one of them.

 

[CRxx]

"nonsense"

> What's going on if a butch lesbian has sex with
> a male of the species? ;-)

Lemme think...??

Ehmmm....

well...now, look.. eehhmm

suprise?
rape?
cunnilingus?

Beats me!

Christine!

 

[CRxx]

"nonsense"

> In 2001 we had a clear history of enemies using an airplane
> as a bomb.

Yup, but the concept of enemy wasn't crystallized that much at the time.

Christine!

 

[nonsense]

CRxx wrote:
> "nonsense"
>
>
>>In 2001 we had a clear history of enemies using an airplane
>>as a bomb.
>
>
> Yup, but the concept of enemy wasn't crystallized that much at the time.

Good grief, it surely was for anyone astute enough to
notice. I don't want to get into a review of all the
incidents clearly pointing at "the enemy." At the very
least the clarity of purpose goes back to the latter
part of the Jimmy Carter regime starting 4 Nov 1979.

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing

That those who should have been more attentive weren't
doesn't mean that all the information necessary to
understand Islamofascism wasn't available by no later
than 1993.

They even provided a final wake-up call on 12 October 2000.

 

[Vandar]

nonsense wrote:

> CRxx wrote:
>
>> "nonsense"
>>
>>
>>>> The Administration never realized that airplanes could be used as
>>>> weapons, as they were on 9/11. That's why they weren't able to prevent
>>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Read about the Pacific War aspects of WW2.
>>
>>
>>
>> That might have been viewed as a diffrent context at the time.
>
>
> Which time, 1940's or 2001?
>
> In 2001 we had a clear history of enemies using an airplane
> as a bomb.

When?

 

[nonsense]

Vandar wrote:
> nonsense wrote:
>
>> CRxx wrote:
>>
>>> "nonsense"
>>>
>>>
>>>>> The Administration never realized that airplanes could be used as
>>>>> weapons, as they were on 9/11. That's why they weren't able to prevent
>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read about the Pacific War aspects of WW2.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That might have been viewed as a diffrent context at the time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Which time, 1940's or 2001?
>>
>> In 2001 we had a clear history of enemies using an airplane
>> as a bomb.
>
>
> When?

Read the information already available
to you above.