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On Jul 6, 5:21 pm, "seon ferguson" <s...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> "GovShill" <Gov.Sh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1183689579.129824.201020@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jul 6, 12:33 pm, nonsense <nonse...@unsettled.com> wrote:
> >> animal05 wrote:
> >> > GovShill wrote:

>
> >> >> On Jul 5, 10:27 pm, "seon ferguson" <s...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>
> >> >>> < US > wrote in
> >> >>> messagenews:v6np83h24s2rr3cr0nc75pe0l8ii6ouvhs@4ax.com...

>
> >> >>>> On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:39:05 +1000, "seon ferguson"
> >> >>>> <s...@iinet.net.au>
> >> >>>> wrote:

>
> >> >>>>> < US > wrote in message
> >> >>>>>news:kb6n835gq1domq9pruke6manhh1rd3k1g7@4ax.com...

>
> >> >>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:03:57 +1000, "seon ferguson"
> >> >>>>>> <s...@iinet.net.au>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:

>
> >> >>>>>>> < US > wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>news:sftm83ljch12opv2dqnpa6epkstr1s7j3f@4ax.com...

>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:15:37 +1000, "seon ferguson"
> >> >>>>>>>> <s...@iinet.net.au>
> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:

>
> >> >>>>>>>>> "James McGill" <jmcg...@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>>news:f6eplp$ldi$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> seon ferguson wrote:

>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> If I lived in America i would help but its up to you guys to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> make
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> world a better place. I'm just a bystander.

>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> What do you imagine you would do?
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think there's really nothing left but to wait for the
> >> >>>>>>>>>> soon-to-be-former
> >> >>>>>>>>>> administration to pass into "former administration."
> >> >>>>>>>>>> There's been talk of everything from impeachment to oversight
> >> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>> bringing
> >> >>>>>>>>>> the administration under the rule of law for the better part
> >> >>>>>>>>>> of a
> >> >>>>>>>>>> decade
> >> >>>>>>>>>> now. It should be clear that nothing is going to stop these
> >> >>>>>>>>>> leaders
> >> >>>>>>>>>> on
> >> >>>>>>>>>> their course.

>
> >> >>>>>>>>> They are some genuine patriots getting congress to sign a bill
> >> >>>>>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>>>>> would
> >> >>>>>>>>> impeach Bush. I'd probably join them or start my own
> >> >>>>>>>>> impeachment
> >> >>>>>>>>> process.
> >> >>>>>>>>> I'm afraid if we waited that long the criminals at the white
> >> >>>>>>>>> house
> >> >>>>>>>>> would
> >> >>>>>>>>> lead
> >> >>>>>>>>> America into another unjust war and possible force our own
> >> >>>>>>>>> children to
> >> >>>>>>>>> die
> >> >>>>>>>>> for oil and the defense contract companies. The only way to
> >> >>>>>>>>> save
> >> >>>>>>>>> America
> >> >>>>>>>>> is impeach the bastards before it's to late.

>
> >> >>>>>>>> Cheney first, then Bush.

>
> >> >>>>>>>> They won't hesitate to have the USA hit again.

>
> >> >>>>>>> Nothing would suprise me anymore.

>
> >> >>>>>> More people should share your level of awareness.

>
> >> >>>>> Its not that big but I admit it is better then before. It was the
> >> >>>>> Scooter
> >> >>>>> Libby pardoning that woke me up to the corruption and the crinimal
> >> >>>>> nature
> >> >>>>> of
> >> >>>>> these people. Hopefully a lot of other people will be woken up to.

>
> >> >>>> The fact that Bush and Cheney will gleefully massacre
> >> >>>> a million totally innocent Iraqis has awakened the world
> >> >>>> to their terrorism. Humans won't be able to claim to be
> >> >>>> civilized unless Bush and Cheney are brought to justice.
> >> >>>> They'll do to you what they're doing to the Iraqis the
> >> >>>> instant it makes them enough money.

>
> >> >>> I'm just glad there is no oil in Australia.

>
> >> >>http://www.ga.gov.au/oceans/ss_ogra_2003.jsp

>
> >> >> Reserves and resources
> >> >> Most (608 of 981 GL or 3.8 of 6.2 Bbbl (billion barrels)) of
> >> >> Australia's initial commercial crude oil reserves have been discovered
> >> >> in offshore Tertiary reservoirs in the Gippsland Basin. Additional
> >> >> major oil reserves have been discovered in the Carnarvon and Bonaparte
> >> >> Basins.

>
> >> >> ...

>
> >> >> Production
> >> >> Estimates by Geoscience Australia of future crude oil plus condensate
> >> >> production suggest production in 2005 at between 78.0 ML/d or 490,700
> >> >> bbl/d and 107.3 ML/d or 674,700 bbl/d and a decline to between about
> >> >> 25.0 ML/d or 157,000 bbl/d and 54.2 ML/d or 341,000 bbl/d by 2025.

>
> >> > Seon wrong again....no surprise there.

>
> >> He's an aussie. What would you expect?

>
> > Hey! Seon is an immigrant. A citizen (he says), but still an
> > immigrant.

>
> For the record I meant oil fields of course we have oil how are our cars
> suposed to run?


For the record, that didn't clear anything up.

Australia has oil fields. That's what this bit of the quoted text
above referred to;

"Reserves and resources
Most (608 of 981 GL or 3.8 of 6.2 Bbbl (billion barrels)) of
Australia's initial commercial crude oil reserves have been discovered
in offshore Tertiary reservoirs in the Gippsland Basin. Additional
major oil reserves have been discovered in the Carnarvon and Bonaparte
Basins."

Gippsland Basin
http://www.lakesoil.com.au/PEP155.html
http://www.santos.com/Content.aspx?p=192
http://www.oilbasins.com.au/gippsland-basin.html

Canning Basin
http://www.oilbasins.com.au/canning-basin.html

Carnarvon Basin
http://www.santos.com/Content.aspx?p=187
http://www.bowenergy.com.au/projects/images/carnarvon.gif
www.bowenergy.com.au/ projects/areas.shtml

Bonaparte Basin
http://www.nt.gov.au/dpifm/Minerals_Energy/index.cfm?header=Current petroleum acreage release
http://www.santos.com/library/bonaparte_basin.gif
www.santos.com/ Content.aspx?p=185

Australia produces oil, Seon.

Australia has oil fields , Seon.

Australia is an oil producing nation, Seon.

What's scary is that you (and many others, with the same clue level)
are going to vote in an upcoming election. Dog help Australia.

Shill #312
 
GovShill wrote:

> Reserves and resources
> Most (608 of 981 GL or 3.8 of 6.2 Bbbl (billion barrels)) of
> Australia's initial commercial crude oil reserves have been discovered
> in offshore Tertiary reservoirs in the Gippsland Basin. Additional
> major oil reserves have been discovered in the Carnarvon and Bonaparte
> Basins.
>
> ...
>
> Production
> Estimates by Geoscience Australia of future crude oil plus condensate
> production suggest production in 2005 at between 78.0 ML/d or 490,700
> bbl/d and 107.3 ML/d or 674,700 bbl/d and a decline to between about
> 25.0 ML/d or 157,000 bbl/d and 54.2 ML/d or 341,000 bbl/d by 2025.
>
>
>


Which pales in comparison to the trillions of barrels under Gull Island,
Alaska.

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GovShill wrote:

> Hey! Seon is an immigrant. A citizen (he says), but still an
> immigrant.
>
> Shill #312
>



where is your green card dollo?

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PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGjbDjnNzw
PART 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q39ic04vhNo
PART 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCyCYz_aHY
PART 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TYmSGwAumk
PART 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwMOvV6ctg
PART 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HGHsy3H_0
PART 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC61X78-OI0

John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjPoeQRewiE

Lies. It's All Lies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5KSieH4Afc

We Know. We Know - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJpCezIsMpk
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GovShill wrote:

>
> Australia is an oil producing nation, Seon.
>
> What's scary is that you (and many others, with the same clue level)
> are going to vote in an upcoming election. Dog help Australia.
>
> Shill #312
>


The USA could be a next energy producer is they so desired. Instead they
would sooner be a net energy consumer so as to keep the price of oil
propped up to fill the Bush/Cheney Crime Families pockets.

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The Energy Non-Crisis
PART 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbakN7SLdbk
PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGjbDjnNzw
PART 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q39ic04vhNo
PART 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCyCYz_aHY
PART 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TYmSGwAumk
PART 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwMOvV6ctg
PART 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HGHsy3H_0
PART 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC61X78-OI0

John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjPoeQRewiE

Lies. It's All Lies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5KSieH4Afc

We Know. We Know - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJpCezIsMpk
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On Jun 30, 11:23 pm, "John P."
<JohnP_Da_Evil_...@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote:
> "Anonymous Loser" <AnonymousLo...@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote in a a
> message
>
> > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. intelligence officials had
> > several warnings that terrorists might attack the United States
> > on its home soil -- even using airplanes as weapons -- well
> > before the September 11, 2001 attacks, two congressional
> > committees said in a report released Wednesday.

>
> During the week of July 4, 2007, four people will die in car accidents on
> the interstate highways in and around the Chicago area.
>
> Armed with this specific information, stop it from happening.


Idiot

First, you issue a warning about this so the hijackers know that you
know

Tell the airline
 
GovShill wrote:

> So, he should have looked like he was doing something, even if there
> was nothing he could actually do at the time? Or... was there
> something you think he could have done? What was that?
>
> Shill #312
>


Your net contribution to Usenet is derived from the following:

50% Hack + 40% Loon + 10% Government Paycheck = 100% bullshit.

Move along nothing to see here.

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The Energy Non-Crisis
PART 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbakN7SLdbk
PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGjbDjnNzw
PART 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q39ic04vhNo
PART 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCyCYz_aHY
PART 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TYmSGwAumk
PART 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwMOvV6ctg
PART 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HGHsy3H_0
PART 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC61X78-OI0

John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjPoeQRewiE

Lies. It's All Lies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5KSieH4Afc

We Know. We Know - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJpCezIsMpk
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On Jul 6, 6:47 pm, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> GovShill wrote:
> > Reserves and resources
> > Most (608 of 981 GL or 3.8 of 6.2 Bbbl (billion barrels)) of
> > Australia's initial commercial crude oil reserves have been discovered
> > in offshore Tertiary reservoirs in the Gippsland Basin. Additional
> > major oil reserves have been discovered in the Carnarvon and Bonaparte
> > Basins.

>
> > ...

>
> > Production
> > Estimates by Geoscience Australia of future crude oil plus condensate
> > production suggest production in 2005 at between 78.0 ML/d or 490,700
> > bbl/d and 107.3 ML/d or 674,700 bbl/d and a decline to between about
> > 25.0 ML/d or 157,000 bbl/d and 54.2 ML/d or 341,000 bbl/d by 2025.

>
> Which pales in comparison to the trillions of barrels under Gull Island,
> Alaska.


Big deal.

Seon said "I'm just glad there is no oil in Australia."

I said <what you quoted above>.

You come back with some crap about Alaska. BFD!

Shill #312
 
On Jul 6, 6:47 pm, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> GovShill wrote:
> > Hey! Seon is an immigrant. A citizen (he says), but still an
> > immigrant.

>
> > Shill #312

>
> where is your green card dollo?


Green card? You think I'm in those United States?

Shill #312
 
"GovShill" <Gov.Shill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183714561.193835.121300@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 6, 6:47 pm, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> GovShill wrote:
>> > Reserves and resources
>> > Most (608 of 981 GL or 3.8 of 6.2 Bbbl (billion barrels)) of
>> > Australia's initial commercial crude oil reserves have been discovered
>> > in offshore Tertiary reservoirs in the Gippsland Basin. Additional
>> > major oil reserves have been discovered in the Carnarvon and Bonaparte
>> > Basins.

>>
>> > ...

>>
>> > Production
>> > Estimates by Geoscience Australia of future crude oil plus condensate
>> > production suggest production in 2005 at between 78.0 ML/d or 490,700
>> > bbl/d and 107.3 ML/d or 674,700 bbl/d and a decline to between about
>> > 25.0 ML/d or 157,000 bbl/d and 54.2 ML/d or 341,000 bbl/d by 2025.

>>
>> Which pales in comparison to the trillions of barrels under Gull Island,
>> Alaska.

>
> Big deal.
>
> Seon said "I'm just glad there is no oil in Australia."
>
> I said <what you quoted above>.
>
> You come back with some crap about Alaska. BFD!
>

And I also pointed out I meant no oil fields like Iraq. It was late and I
was rushing my post without thinking to much.
 
"GovShill" <Gov.Shill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183707658.774446.189590@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 6, 5:21 pm, "seon ferguson" <s...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> "GovShill" <Gov.Sh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1183689579.129824.201020@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Jul 6, 12:33 pm, nonsense <nonse...@unsettled.com> wrote:
>> >> animal05 wrote:
>> >> > GovShill wrote:

>>
>> >> >> On Jul 5, 10:27 pm, "seon ferguson" <s...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>>
>> >> >>> < US > wrote in
>> >> >>> messagenews:v6np83h24s2rr3cr0nc75pe0l8ii6ouvhs@4ax.com...

>>
>> >> >>>> On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:39:05 +1000, "seon ferguson"
>> >> >>>> <s...@iinet.net.au>
>> >> >>>> wrote:

>>
>> >> >>>>> < US > wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>news:kb6n835gq1domq9pruke6manhh1rd3k1g7@4ax.com...

>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:03:57 +1000, "seon ferguson"
>> >> >>>>>> <s...@iinet.net.au>
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:

>>
>> >> >>>>>>> < US > wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>>news:sftm83ljch12opv2dqnpa6epkstr1s7j3f@4ax.com...

>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:15:37 +1000, "seon ferguson"
>> >> >>>>>>>> <s...@iinet.net.au>
>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:

>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> "James McGill" <jmcg...@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>>>>news:f6eplp$ldi$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> seon ferguson wrote:

>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> If I lived in America i would help but its up to you guys
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> make
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> world a better place. I'm just a bystander.

>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> What do you imagine you would do?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think there's really nothing left but to wait for the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> soon-to-be-former
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> administration to pass into "former administration."
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> There's been talk of everything from impeachment to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> oversight
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> bringing
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> the administration under the rule of law for the better
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> part
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> of a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> decade
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> now. It should be clear that nothing is going to stop
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> these
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> leaders
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> on
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> their course.

>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> They are some genuine patriots getting congress to sign a
>> >> >>>>>>>>> bill
>> >> >>>>>>>>> that
>> >> >>>>>>>>> would
>> >> >>>>>>>>> impeach Bush. I'd probably join them or start my own
>> >> >>>>>>>>> impeachment
>> >> >>>>>>>>> process.
>> >> >>>>>>>>> I'm afraid if we waited that long the criminals at the white
>> >> >>>>>>>>> house
>> >> >>>>>>>>> would
>> >> >>>>>>>>> lead
>> >> >>>>>>>>> America into another unjust war and possible force our own
>> >> >>>>>>>>> children to
>> >> >>>>>>>>> die
>> >> >>>>>>>>> for oil and the defense contract companies. The only way to
>> >> >>>>>>>>> save
>> >> >>>>>>>>> America
>> >> >>>>>>>>> is impeach the bastards before it's to late.

>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Cheney first, then Bush.

>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> They won't hesitate to have the USA hit again.

>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Nothing would suprise me anymore.

>>
>> >> >>>>>> More people should share your level of awareness.

>>
>> >> >>>>> Its not that big but I admit it is better then before. It was
>> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >>>>> Scooter
>> >> >>>>> Libby pardoning that woke me up to the corruption and the
>> >> >>>>> crinimal
>> >> >>>>> nature
>> >> >>>>> of
>> >> >>>>> these people. Hopefully a lot of other people will be woken up
>> >> >>>>> to.

>>
>> >> >>>> The fact that Bush and Cheney will gleefully massacre
>> >> >>>> a million totally innocent Iraqis has awakened the world
>> >> >>>> to their terrorism. Humans won't be able to claim to be
>> >> >>>> civilized unless Bush and Cheney are brought to justice.
>> >> >>>> They'll do to you what they're doing to the Iraqis the
>> >> >>>> instant it makes them enough money.

>>
>> >> >>> I'm just glad there is no oil in Australia.

>>
>> >> >>http://www.ga.gov.au/oceans/ss_ogra_2003.jsp

>>
>> >> >> Reserves and resources
>> >> >> Most (608 of 981 GL or 3.8 of 6.2 Bbbl (billion barrels)) of
>> >> >> Australia's initial commercial crude oil reserves have been
>> >> >> discovered
>> >> >> in offshore Tertiary reservoirs in the Gippsland Basin. Additional
>> >> >> major oil reserves have been discovered in the Carnarvon and
>> >> >> Bonaparte
>> >> >> Basins.

>>
>> >> >> ...

>>
>> >> >> Production
>> >> >> Estimates by Geoscience Australia of future crude oil plus
>> >> >> condensate
>> >> >> production suggest production in 2005 at between 78.0 ML/d or
>> >> >> 490,700
>> >> >> bbl/d and 107.3 ML/d or 674,700 bbl/d and a decline to between
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> 25.0 ML/d or 157,000 bbl/d and 54.2 ML/d or 341,000 bbl/d by 2025.

>>
>> >> > Seon wrong again....no surprise there.

>>
>> >> He's an aussie. What would you expect?

>>
>> > Hey! Seon is an immigrant. A citizen (he says), but still an
>> > immigrant.

>>
>> For the record I meant oil fields of course we have oil how are our cars
>> suposed to run?

>
> For the record, that didn't clear anything up.
>
> Australia has oil fields. That's what this bit of the quoted text
> above referred to;
>
> "Reserves and resources
> Most (608 of 981 GL or 3.8 of 6.2 Bbbl (billion barrels)) of
> Australia's initial commercial crude oil reserves have been discovered
> in offshore Tertiary reservoirs in the Gippsland Basin. Additional
> major oil reserves have been discovered in the Carnarvon and Bonaparte
> Basins."
>
> Gippsland Basin
> http://www.lakesoil.com.au/PEP155.html
> http://www.santos.com/Content.aspx?p=192
> http://www.oilbasins.com.au/gippsland-basin.html
>
> Canning Basin
> http://www.oilbasins.com.au/canning-basin.html
>
> Carnarvon Basin
> http://www.santos.com/Content.aspx?p=187
> http://www.bowenergy.com.au/projects/images/carnarvon.gif
> www.bowenergy.com.au/ projects/areas.shtml
>
> Bonaparte Basin
> http://www.nt.gov.au/dpifm/Minerals_Energy/index.cfm?header=Current petroleum acreage release
> http://www.santos.com/library/bonaparte_basin.gif
> www.santos.com/ Content.aspx?p=185
>
> Australia produces oil, Seon.
>
> Australia has oil fields , Seon.
>
> Australia is an oil producing nation, Seon.
>
> What's scary is that you (and many others, with the same clue level)
> are going to vote in an upcoming election. Dog help Australia.
>

Why is that so scary? Howard is obviously going to win. Remember with
lathem? his approvial rating was high but he found a way to stuff up, just
like rudd will.
Also if we do then are they as big as Iraq's?
 
<bushlyed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 30, 11:23 pm, "John P."
> <JohnP_Da_Evil_...@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote:
>> "Anonymous Loser" <AnonymousLo...@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote in a a
>> message
>>
>> > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. intelligence officials had
>> > several warnings that terrorists might attack the United States
>> > on its home soil -- even using airplanes as weapons -- well
>> > before the September 11, 2001 attacks, two congressional
>> > committees said in a report released Wednesday.

>>
>> During the week of July 4, 2007, four people will die in car accidents on
>> the interstate highways in and around the Chicago area.
>>
>> Armed with this specific information, stop it from happening.

>
> Idiot
>
> First, you issue a warning about this so the hijackers know that you
> know
>
> Tell the airline
>

And let the pilots carry freaking guns.
 
zookumar yelubandi wrote:

> John P. wrote:
>
>>"seon ferguson" <seon@iinet.net.au> wrote in a message
>>
>>>>The PNAC did not say they wanted a terrorist attack (or, more
>>>>accurately, another Pearl Harbor). They were saying that's what it would
>>>>take to gain the support of the American people. There's a big difference
>>>>there.
>>>
>>>True no one actually said they wanted a new Pearl harbor but i wonder how
>>>many of these "Patriots" would be willing to let 911 happen so they can
>>>have an excuse to invade other countries.

>>
>>Just so you understand, the PNAC did make mention of a "new Pearl Harbor".

>
>
> Yes, to prepare the American people for what they, a
> Machiavellian band of highway robbers slash tinpot emperors dressed in
> business suits and exuding the foul stench of conflict of interest (with
> their oil, drug, and defense industry ties) ... had long planned ... a
> New Pearl Harbour to initiate the imperialist reign of Novus Ordo Mundi.
> Absent this trigger, the planned globalist order would've had to be
> delayed indefinitely because the American people - individualist by
> nature and representing the only serious obstacle to the collectivist
> global order - did not or ever did have an appetite for global hegemony,
> unlike, of course, the corporate elites. Corporations tend towards
> monopoly: state borders yield to the national border yield to the
> international order of things (if there existed a viable second planet
> in the solar system, be assured the corporate mindset would seek
> expansion into an interplanetary order). Corporations are amoral
> entities; the people in charge of them are largely immoral people.
>
> Suffice to say, indefinite delay was not an option as the
> American economy, burdened with an out-of-control national debt that was
> arrived by decades of financial mismanagement and outright pilfering by
> the managing classes of the global elitist order, was quickly
> approaching critical pressure.
>
> How does this relate to the statement about a New Pearl Harbour
> in PNAC? Well, if you understand the context in gestalt, you'll
> quickly realize that the comment is gratuitous. It has no real bearing
> on the timescale for transforming the American military.
>
> I mean, ask yourself this simple question: has 9/11 changed much
> wrt the transformation of the American military? No? All right then,
> what exactly has it managed to do? Well, all it has really managed to
> do to this point is channel vast quantities of taxpayers' money into the
> pockets of the globalist management classes, kill about a million
> innocent people, expose major weaknesses in the American military, and
> it has made America's overall standing in the rest of the world less
> than it was prior to the New Pearl Harbour. If anything, the American
> economy is on the verge of collapse, with the Euro now pegged to be the
> currency of choice. More the further, the American people are less safe
> now than prior to the NPH, and the American government is more reviled
> than at any point in its history. In short, this most recent imperialist
> misadventure has more in common with the Vietnam misadventure than with
> any grandiose century envisioned by its authors.
>
> But if the NPH reference in PNAC was gratuitous, then why
> mention it at all? Simple ... to unify the masses by evoking the
> memory of the original Pearl Harbour attack. Okay. But why the need
> to unify the masses? Simple ... the Inside Jobbers were deep into
> their plans for attacking the American people, the American state, and
> the American Constitution in September of 2000, a year before they
> implemented it on 9/11/2001.
>
> To wit, the inclusion of NPH in PNAC was designed to prepare the
> American people, nothing more, and certainly nothing less. But you,
> sweet child, would have us believe in something less. Again, what is
> your stake in all this?
>
> [...]
>
>>Here's a copy of the entire document;
>>http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

>
>
> Yes, I encourage people to read the entire document to get an
> understanding of the gestalt.


Ok. So we now know that you have no clue what the PNAC document was
about or what it says, no clue about the state of economy in 2001, and
no clue about what happened on 9/11.

Anything else you'd like to you reveal yourself as clueless about?
 
"John P." <JohnP_Da_Evil_Joo@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote in message
news:t6qdnfPWGIxqCxHbnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "seon ferguson" <seon@iinet.net.au> wrote in a message
>
>>>> Anything would have been better then just sitting there when his fellow
>>>> Americans were being burnt alive. I mean even if he didnt do anything I
>>>> wouldnt mind so much its the joking he did with the kids that gets to
>>>> me. How would you like it if you had a wife who was burnt alive in the
>>>> twin towers or who had no choice to jumo to her death and you saw the
>>>> man who was suposed to be commander and chief just sitting there joking
>>>> and laughing?

>
>>> Well Seon, I have no expectation that the President of the US is in a
>>> position to do anything to rescue my wife from a burning building. I
>>> would very much want the fire department to be there, as well as EMT's
>>> and other emergency crews, but, I really wouldn't care what the
>>> president was doing. He is the Commander in Chief of the US military,
>>> which really wouldn't play a role in a building fire, or even a
>>> terrorist attack. The military isn't really set up for an immediate
>>> response to that type of incident.
>>>
>>> The question should really be, how would I want GW to act if that were
>>> one of my kids in that classroom with him?
>>>
>>> The answer is, I'd prefer he not do anything to alarm or panic those
>>> kids.

>
>> Yeah he can do that later with the whole "war on terror" fraud and the
>> members of his administration can help scare the American people with
>> there fear mongering.

>
> Pffft.


That would be the sound of the OBL wanted dead or alive slogan disappearing.


>
>> Or maybe Bush didn't know what was going on and maybe the whole "mr
>> president were under attack" business was just a lie to make him appear
>> more commander in chiefly later on.

>
> It's pretty clear Bush didn't know what was going on.


BS. He was told America was under attack.



He'd have little
> choice as to what he might do once he learned of the attack.



He was told America was under attack and sat there for another (minimum) 7
minutes before doing his next move, nothing.




At that point,
> the Secret Service is running through a whole list of options. They're
> checking the surrounding area (maybe part of the attack plan assumed the
> president would leave the school immediately, where he'd then be hit by a
> suicide bomber, a shoulder launched missile at his limo, etc.).


Yep, stay at the place he's known to be... because the terrorists might hit
him... at some undisclosed escape route... during an undisclosed escape
plan.



>
> Since the school and surrounding area would have been checked prior to his
> arrival at the school, for the immediate time, he was in a 'known safe"
> area. ... or, at least more known safe than anywhere outside the school.


How did anyone "know" he was safe in the highly publicized photo op
location?


>
> The only thing GW could do was wait.


BS. You ****ing apologists should get on some medications.



>
>
>> All in know is if my elected leader acted the way he did when my loved
>> ones were dying (joking and laughing) I'd be disgusted.

>
> I'm pretty disgusted with everyone in Washington. They don't need to do
> anything more to make me feel that way,
>
> Lower your expectations - then you won't be so easily disappointed.


Raise your expectations, moron. Then you'll get better leadership and not
ruin it for the rest of the country.


>
> I expect nothing. ... and I get it, in abundance.


Oh! You're getting a lot more than nothing... you've just not brought
yourself around to discuss it.
 
"seon ferguson" <seon@iinet.net.au> wrote in message news:468c9aa9$0$12805
>>

> If this really is a "war on terror" why is it only terrorists when they
> attack America or American targets or when American interests are in that
> region?


Becuase it's propaganda to justify America's retarded Foreign Policy... the
same that has gotten us into this situation to begin with. Wait till the
bill comes for US taxpayers.




>
>>> Or maybe Bush didn't know what was going on and maybe the whole "mr
>>> president were under attack" business was just a lie to make him appear
>>> more commander in chiefly later on.

>>
>> It's pretty clear Bush didn't know what was going on. He'd have little
>> choice as to what he might do once he learned of the attack. At that
>> point, the Secret Service is running through a whole list of options.
>> They're checking the surrounding area (maybe part of the attack plan
>> assumed the president would leave the school immediately, where he'd then
>> be hit by a suicide bomber, a shoulder launched missile at his limo,
>> etc.).
>>
>> Since the school and surrounding area would have been checked prior to
>> his arrival at the school, for the immediate time, he was in a 'known
>> safe" area. ... or, at least more known safe than anywhere outside the
>> school.
>>
>> The only thing GW could do was wait.
>>
>>

> And laugh with the kids. Perhaps he didnt know what was going on, thats a
> more realistic approach.


You're being too generous. He was told that the US was under attack.
 
< US > wrote in message news:dbop83h6pu1f4rqqlbhvg8uj13vs54i2ig@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 22:15:48 -0500, "John P." <JohnP_Da_Evil_@MoronMe.com>
> wrote:
>
>>...I have no expectation that the President of the US is in a
>>position to do anything to rescue my wife from a burning building. I would

>
> You would laugh, too, wouldn't you.
>
>>The answer is, I'd prefer he not do anything to alarm or panic those kids.

>
> Nobody suggested that he do that, actually.


He is the drama mama isn't he.
 
"BDK" <BDK@shillsrus.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20f6117ce20c6eff98b300@news.buckeye-express.com...
> In article <468c3d8e$0$12837$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
> 01.iinet.net.au>, seon@iinet.net.au says...
>>
>> "BDK" <BDK@shillsrus.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.20f5a10cfd765cbb98b2f1@news.buckeye-express.com...
>> > In article <4g6n83pq16vlb9ddrhgtfe9vpbuhs5t19a@4ax.com>, US says...
>> >> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:06:10 +1000, "seon ferguson" <seon@iinet.net.au>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >< US > wrote in message
>> >> >news:titm835bbv3nucqkqu8obiare9rko119j1@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:03:49 -0700, sj <sj@essjay.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>... are you quite sure that the "Popular
>> >> >>>Mechanics" folks didn't do a pretty good job of explaining it all
>> >> >>>with
>> >> >>>some real science and logic?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes. Can you learn how to use a search engine
>> >> >> and find out how it's been debunked?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hint: Chertoff's cousin wrote it.
>> >> >
>> >> >And the 911 comission was a sham, those views we can both agree on.
>> >> >Was
>> >> >911
>> >> >a false flag attack? well for me the jury is still out.
>> >>
>> >> Consider means, motive, and opportunity.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Consider evidence too, and there isn't any.
>> >

>> There's certainly evidence that something went on before 911 to let it
>> happen. How much did the government know? Well I'm still trying to figure
>> it
>> out but I wouldn't be at all surprised if 50 years from now it came out
>> that
>> the CIA had agents in the terrorist cells who carried out 911 like with
>> the
>> 7/7 London bombings with MI5 but allowed it to happen.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Much more likely it comes down in inter-agency rivalry, or just an
> incompetent middle manager who didn't think a tip was "legit", or a
> combination of both.
>
> BDK


Yes because its easy to claim such things. In fact, it puts the retarded
foreign policy wheels well in motion, backed by the citizenry that would
have never supported such actions. The record stands that there was
obstruction to thwart capture and prosecution of the alleged men.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/printer_2469.shtml

He's not alone with such claims either.
 
"John P." <JohnP_Da_Evil_Joo@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote in message
news:VfCdnVtTuooV4xHbnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "seon ferguson" <seon@iinet.net.au> wrote in a message
>
>> Or maybe they were part of the neo conservative movement (like the
>> writers of rebuilding America's defences) who wanted another terrorist
>> attack.

>
> The PNAC did not say they wanted a terrorist attack (or, more
> accurately, another Pearl Harbor). They were saying that's what it would
> take to gain the support of the American people. There's a big difference
> there.


Of course they wanted an attack to implement their retarded policy's.
 
MoronLocator wrote:

> "John P." <JohnP_Da_Evil_Joo@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote in message
> news:t6qdnfPWGIxqCxHbnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>"seon ferguson" <seon@iinet.net.au> wrote in a message
>>
>>
>>>>>Anything would have been better then just sitting there when his fellow
>>>>>Americans were being burnt alive. I mean even if he didnt do anything I
>>>>>wouldnt mind so much its the joking he did with the kids that gets to
>>>>>me. How would you like it if you had a wife who was burnt alive in the
>>>>>twin towers or who had no choice to jumo to her death and you saw the
>>>>>man who was suposed to be commander and chief just sitting there joking
>>>>>and laughing?

>>
>>>>Well Seon, I have no expectation that the President of the US is in a
>>>>position to do anything to rescue my wife from a burning building. I
>>>>would very much want the fire department to be there, as well as EMT's
>>>>and other emergency crews, but, I really wouldn't care what the
>>>>president was doing. He is the Commander in Chief of the US military,
>>>>which really wouldn't play a role in a building fire, or even a
>>>>terrorist attack. The military isn't really set up for an immediate
>>>>response to that type of incident.
>>>>
>>>>The question should really be, how would I want GW to act if that were
>>>>one of my kids in that classroom with him?
>>>>
>>>>The answer is, I'd prefer he not do anything to alarm or panic those
>>>>kids.

>>
>>>Yeah he can do that later with the whole "war on terror" fraud and the
>>>members of his administration can help scare the American people with
>>>there fear mongering.

>>
>>Pffft.

>
>
> That would be the sound of the OBL wanted dead or alive slogan disappearing.
>
>
>
>>>Or maybe Bush didn't know what was going on and maybe the whole "mr
>>>president were under attack" business was just a lie to make him appear
>>>more commander in chiefly later on.

>>
>>It's pretty clear Bush didn't know what was going on.

>
>
> BS. He was told America was under attack.
>
>
>
> He'd have little
>
>>choice as to what he might do once he learned of the attack.

>
>
>
> He was told America was under attack and sat there for another (minimum) 7
> minutes before doing his next move, nothing.
>
>
>
>
> At that point,
>
>>the Secret Service is running through a whole list of options. They're
>>checking the surrounding area (maybe part of the attack plan assumed the
>>president would leave the school immediately, where he'd then be hit by a
>>suicide bomber, a shoulder launched missile at his limo, etc.).

>
>
> Yep, stay at the place he's known to be... because the terrorists might hit
> him... at some undisclosed escape route... during an undisclosed escape
> plan.
>
>
>
>
>>Since the school and surrounding area would have been checked prior to his
>>arrival at the school, for the immediate time, he was in a 'known safe"
>>area. ... or, at least more known safe than anywhere outside the school.

>
>
> How did anyone "know" he was safe in the highly publicized photo op
> location?


How did anyone "know" if he was unsafe? The secret service isn't
supposed to act based on whether they think the President is safe, they
are supposed to act when they know he is not.
Right at this very second, a person intent on causing the President harm
could be headed to his location. Should his security detail whisk him to
a "secure" location based on no known threat?
 
seon ferguson wrote:

> <bushlyed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1183711908.550353.53070@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>>On Jun 30, 11:23 pm, "John P."
>><JohnP_Da_Evil_...@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Anonymous Loser" <AnonymousLo...@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote in a a
>>>message
>>>
>>>
>>>>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. intelligence officials had
>>>>several warnings that terrorists might attack the United States
>>>>on its home soil -- even using airplanes as weapons -- well
>>>>before the September 11, 2001 attacks, two congressional
>>>>committees said in a report released Wednesday.
>>>
>>>During the week of July 4, 2007, four people will die in car accidents on
>>>the interstate highways in and around the Chicago area.
>>>
>>>Armed with this specific information, stop it from happening.

>>
>>Idiot
>>
>>First, you issue a warning about this so the hijackers know that you
>>know
>>
>>Tell the airline
>>

>
> And let the pilots carry freaking guns.


You want this guy carrying a gun on an airplane?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/10/national/main1786964.shtml
 
Vandar wrote:
> zookumar yelubandi wrote:
> > John P. wrote:
> >>"seon ferguson" <seon@iinet.net.au> wrote in a message
> >>>>The PNAC did not say they wanted a terrorist attack (or, more
> >>>>accurately, another Pearl Harbor). They were saying that's what it would
> >>>>take to gain the support of the American people. There's a big difference
> >>>>there.
> >>>True no one actually said they wanted a new Pearl harbor but i wonder how
> >>>many of these "Patriots" would be willing to let 911 happen so they can
> >>>have an excuse to invade other countries.
> >>Just so you understand, the PNAC did make mention of a "new Pearl Harbor".

> > Yes, to prepare the American people for what they, a
> > Machiavellian band of highway robbers slash tinpot emperors dressed in
> > business suits and exuding the foul stench of conflict of interest (with
> > their oil, drug, and defense industry ties) ... had long planned ... a
> > New Pearl Harbour to initiate the imperialist reign of Novus Ordo Mundi.
> > Absent this trigger, the planned globalist order would've had to be
> > delayed indefinitely because the American people - individualist by
> > nature and representing the only serious obstacle to the collectivist
> > global order - did not or ever did have an appetite for global hegemony,
> > unlike, of course, the corporate elites. Corporations tend towards
> > monopoly: state borders yield to the national border yield to the
> > international order of things (if there existed a viable second planet
> > in the solar system, be assured the corporate mindset would seek
> > expansion into an interplanetary order). Corporations are amoral
> > entities; the people in charge of them are largely immoral people.
> > Suffice to say, indefinite delay was not an option as the
> > American economy, burdened with an out-of-control national debt that was
> > arrived by decades of financial mismanagement and outright pilfering by
> > the managing classes of the global elitist order, was quickly
> > approaching critical pressure.
> > How does this relate to the statement about a New Pearl Harbour
> > in PNAC? Well, if you understand the context in gestalt, you'll
> > quickly realize that the comment is gratuitous. It has no real bearing
> > on the timescale for transforming the American military.
> > I mean, ask yourself this simple question: has 9/11 changed much
> > wrt the transformation of the American military? No? All right then,
> > what exactly has it managed to do? Well, all it has really managed to
> > do to this point is channel vast quantities of taxpayers' money into the
> > pockets of the globalist management classes, kill about a million
> > innocent people, expose major weaknesses in the American military, and
> > it has made America's overall standing in the rest of the world less
> > than it was prior to the New Pearl Harbour. If anything, the American
> > economy is on the verge of collapse, with the Euro now pegged to be the
> > currency of choice. More the further, the American people are less safe
> > now than prior to the NPH, and the American government is more reviled
> > than at any point in its history. In short, this most recent imperialist
> > misadventure has more in common with the Vietnam misadventure than with
> > any grandiose century envisioned by its authors.
> > But if the NPH reference in PNAC was gratuitous, then why
> > mention it at all? Simple ... to unify the masses by evoking the
> > memory of the original Pearl Harbour attack. Okay. But why the need
> > to unify the masses? Simple ... the Inside Jobbers were deep into
> > their plans for attacking the American people, the American state, and
> > the American Constitution in September of 2000, a year before they
> > implemented it on 9/11/2001.
> > To wit, the inclusion of NPH in PNAC was designed to prepare the
> > American people, nothing more, and certainly nothing less. But you,
> > sweet child, would have us believe in something less. Again, what is
> > your stake in all this?
> > [...]
> >>Here's a copy of the entire document;
> >>http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

> > Yes, I encourage people to read the entire document to get an
> > understanding of the gestalt.

> Ok. So we now know that you have no clue what the PNAC document was
> about or what it says, no clue about the state of economy in 2001, and
> no clue about what happened on 9/11.
> Anything else you'd like to you reveal yourself as clueless about?


Yes, yours is an excellent rebuttal, I'm sure. But the cloaking
device you've adorned it with is not allowing me a glimpse, sweet child.
If it's not too much trouble to ask you to remove it so I can see your
excellent arguments, that would be of great assistance. Perhaps we can
solve this thing if we work together, sweet child.

-zookumar-
 
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