SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS

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Bill M

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The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
existence of millions of atheists.

If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.

If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
 
On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
> existence of millions of atheists.
>
> If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
> atheists and send them to his Hell.
>
> If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
> his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
> existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
> atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.


What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
Robert B. Winn
 
On Apr 3, 4:28 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> atheists?


Oh ho. Sins of atheists you say? So you are a religious crank as
well as an antirelativity crank. Why am I unsurprised to learn this?

> Robert B. Winn
 
On Apr 3, 9:28 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
> > existence of millions of atheists.

>
> > If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
> > atheists and send them to his Hell.

>
> > If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
> > his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
> > existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
> > atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.

>
> What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> atheists?


Prove it, ****wit.

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom

Convicted by Earthquack

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
 
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> said:

>The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
>existence of millions of atheists.
>
>If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
>atheists and send them to his Hell.
>
>If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
>his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
>existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
>atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
>

There is an "argument from disbelief" as follows, that dispenses with
certain gods, including notably the God of many believers. This is not
to be confused with much weaker arguments from disbelief.

quote: [I have added two statements to make it more complete, and one
trivial typo correction.]

Argument from disbelief:

Givens:

God is all powerful
God is all knowing
God is all loving
Disbelief exists
Hell exists
[Add: Disbelievers who die as such go to Hell.]

God, being all loving, wants us to believe in him so that we won't end
up in hell.
God, being all knowing, knows exactly what amount of evidence every
person needs to believe.
God, being all powerful, has the ability to produce the said evidence.

I'm a living testament to the existence of disbelief, so god is
either:

A)Not all loving
B)Not all powerful
C)Not all knowing

Or hell doesn't exist.

[Add: Or disbelief carries no penalty.]

unquote

http://www.skepticatheist.com/articles/whyatheism.php
 
On Apr 3, 4:28 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
> > existence of millions of atheists.

>
> > If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
> > atheists and send them to his Hell.

>
> > If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
> > his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
> > existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
> > atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.

>
> What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> atheists?
> Robert B. Winn

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What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> atheists?
> Robert B. Winn

----------------------
Christan Knut: "We have a living God."

Objctive person: "You just said 'He died for our sins'.
You can't have it both ways."

Former Christian: "You got a good point there."
 
On 3 apr, 22:28, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
> > existence of millions of atheists.

>
> > If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
> > atheists and send them to his Hell.

>
> > If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
> > his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
> > existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
> > atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.

>
> What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> atheists?
> Robert B. Winn


He should be arrested for child-murder!
 
"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
>> actual
>> existence of millions of atheists.
>>
>> If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
>> atheists and send them to his Hell.
>>
>> If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
>> his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of
>> its
>> existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
>> atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.

>
> What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> atheists?
> Robert B. Winn


What does this Bible story have to do with the question? Why wouldn't a
loving god
demonstrate his existence and eliminate atheism?
 
On Apr 4, 4:28 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
> > existence of millions of atheists.

>
> > If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
> > atheists and send them to his Hell.

>
> > If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
> > his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
> > existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
> > atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.

>
> What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> atheists?


Were the Jews atheists?

Martin
 
On Apr 4, 8:28 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> atheists?


It's a sin to think?
 
On 3 Apr 2007 13:28:18 -0700, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

>On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
>> existence of millions of atheists.
>>
>> If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
>> atheists and send them to his Hell.
>>
>> If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
>> his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
>> existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
>> atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.

>
>What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
>atheists?
>Robert B. Winn


God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
he did. There is a fundamental difference here.
 
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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> On 3 Apr 2007 13:28:18 -0700, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
>>What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
>>atheists?

>
> God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
> he did. There is a fundamental difference here.


So are you claiming Jesus did NOT die?

Are you claiming it was not God's will that Jesus died .. Jesus seemed to
think it was?

If Jesus is God, why would he need to overcome death .. he is immortal ?
 
One fine day in alt.atheism, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com> bloodied
us up with this:

> On 3 Apr 2007 13:28:18 -0700, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
>>> actual existence of millions of atheists.
>>>
>>> If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill
>>> the atheists and send them to his Hell.
>>>
>>> If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly
>>> communicate his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to
>>> convince them of its existence. No loving and caring god would keep
>>> himself hidden causing the atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.

>>
>>What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
>>atheists?
>>Robert B. Winn

>
> God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
> he did. There is a fundamental difference here.
>


Yes. Professor Dumbledore did not send Harry Potter's parents to die for
him, it just happened. But they left him a safe full of money in
anticipation of his schooling at Hogwarts. Prove to me the Jesus story has
any more credibility than this.

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
 
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
> actual existence of millions of atheists.


Many are called few are choosen

> If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
> atheists and send them to his Hell.


He will.

> If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
> his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
> existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
> atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.


He did, it's called the Scriptures, atheists cause themselves to go to
hell, don't blame God, go ahead study, you can't say you didn't know.
 

> What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> atheists?
> Robert B. Winn


would that be the same "loving, caring" christian god that sat on his FAT,
LAZY ASS and laughed his sick, sadistic ass off while the events of
9/11/2001 was happening?

The christian god is a sick ****.
 

> God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
> he did. There is a fundamental difference here.


so, are you saying that the christian god is completely ****ing useless and
couldn't have just waved his magic wand and overcome death without someone
dying?
 
On Apr 3, 1:59 pm, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
> existence of millions of atheists.
>
> If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
> atheists and send them to his Hell.
>
> If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
> his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
> existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
> atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.


What you don't understand is that the real god loves atheists and
wants them to go to Hell. That's where the fun is. Eternity in
Heaven is the real hell! All the believers will be miserable up there
and we'll be free of them, and partying hearty! LoL!

Budikka
 
On Apr 3, 10:54 pm, Eric Brze <b...@no.spam.mail.com> wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2007 13:28:18 -0700, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
> >> existence of millions of atheists.

>
> >> If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
> >> atheists and send them to his Hell.

>
> >> If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
> >> his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
> >> existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
> >> atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.

>
> >What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
> >atheists?
> >Robert B. Winn

>
> God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
> he did. There is a fundamental difference here.


The Chinese Fenghuang (Phoenix) myth goes back 7,000 years. Even
that version isn't likely the first.
 
On Apr 4, 3:29 pm, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <kill...@killgod.com>
wrote:
> > God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
> > he did. There is a fundamental difference here.

>
> so, are you saying that the christian god is completely ****ing useless and
> couldn't have just waved his magic wand and overcome death without someone
> dying?

How would you rise from the dead without dying first?


Michael
 
On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
> existence of millions of atheists.
>
> If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
> atheists and send them to his Hell.

All in due time, my friend.

It is not as if time is something that God is short of.


Michael
 
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