Speed of Iran vote count called suspicious

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CAIRO (AP) -- How do you count almost 40 million handwritten paper ballots in a matter of hours and declare a winner? That's a key question in Iran's disputed presidential election. International polling experts and Iran analysts said the speed of the vote count, coupled with a lack of detailed election data normally released by officials, was fueling suspicion around President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's landslide victory....

By JASON KEYSER

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RoyalOrleans

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In the meantime ... what is our President saying? Has he really taken a side in this? You either support Ahmadinejad and tell the world that you believe his election was valid, or you express your doubts and thrown some moral support to the people of Iran who are protesting. So, PrezBO, which way is it? Then, on the other hand, you can just sit around and say nothing. That seems to be the tact. Obama's silence on the situation in Iran has been deafening. All we can get from the White House is the fact that the United States is "deeply troubled."

Deeply troubled. Oh .. you mean like Americans are deeply troubled about your spending? Like Americans are deeply troubled that you're not running Government Motors? Oh .... I see.

Well, Mr. President, when you feel like you can take a principled stand on this one just let us know.

 

phreakwars

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In the meantime ... what is our President saying? Has he really taken a side in this? You either support Ahmadinejad and tell the world that you believe his election was valid, or you express your doubts and thrown some moral support to the people of Iran who are protesting. So, PrezBO, which way is it? Then, on the other hand, you can just sit around and say nothing. That seems to be the tact. Obama's silence on the situation in Iran has been deafening. All we can get from the White House is the fact that the United States is "deeply troubled."
Deeply troubled. Oh .. you mean like Americans are deeply troubled about your spending? Like Americans are deeply troubled that you're not running Government Motors? Oh .... I see.

Well, Mr. President, when you feel like you can take a principled stand on this one just let us know.
So your saying the United States should say they support Mousvai or what his name is? Stick our nose where it doesn't belong? That is a bad idea on many levels. Oh I am sure Obama is rooting for Mousvai, but if he openly says that, this will lead to greater tentions with Iran if the people can't overthrow the dictator rule by re voting.
You have to be insane to think the US should voice an opinion.

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ImWithStupid

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So your saying the United States should say they support Mousvai or what his name is? Stick our nose where it doesn't belong? That is a bad idea on many levels. Oh I am sure Obama is rooting for Mousvai, but if he openly says that, this will lead to greater tentions with Iran if the people can't overthrow the dictator rule by re voting.
You have to be insane to think the US should voice an opinion.

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I agree. Now wouldn't be a time to openly take sides, although, I think the US should be more vocal about questions about the election.

 

phreakwars

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The best thing we can do here is let the Liberals overthrow the repressive Conservative government in Iran on their own. We all know it's true. :cool:

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ImWithStupid

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The best thing we can do here is let the Liberals overthrow the repressive Conservative government in Iran on their own. We all know it's true. :cool: .

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You mean the Theocracy that Jimmy Carter brought on?

 

snafu

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Obama called him in his statement as the supreme ruler of Iran. Pretty much tells you where he stands.
 

RoyalOrleans

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So your saying the United States should say they support Mousvai or what his name is? Stick our nose where it doesn't belong? That is a bad idea on many levels. Oh I am sure Obama is rooting for Mousvai, but if he openly says that, this will lead to greater tentions with Iran if the people can't overthrow the dictator rule by re voting.
You have to be insane to think the US should voice an opinion.

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Call me insane then.

Say something. Anything other than accepting it and moving on. Obama tries to stay majestically fukken neutral on everything. He's Sweden in a suit! Even Bill Clinton would say something to the contrary of what transpired in Iran.

Why can't Obama come out and say something like "Well... I condemn it."? It doesn't mean that we are launching all out war with Iran or sending emissaries over there to oversee the supposed recounts.

Then again... it doesn't change the Supreme Leader Khameni. It only changes their domestic policies and economic priorities and I would argue even that is limited by their Parliament. President BO can hold out his hand all that he wants, it's up to the Ayatolla as to whether it gets slapped or caressed.

And........ that is what is majestically wrong with Iran. Ruled by a theocracy.

 

Chi

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In the meantime ... what is our President saying? Has he really taken a side in this? You either support Ahmadinejad and tell the world that you believe his election was valid, or you express your doubts and thrown some moral support to the people of Iran who are protesting. So, PrezBO, which way is it? Then, on the other hand, you can just sit around and say nothing. That seems to be the tact. Obama's silence on the situation in Iran has been deafening. All we can get from the White House is the fact that the United States is "deeply troubled."
Deeply troubled. Oh .. you mean like Americans are deeply troubled about your spending? Like Americans are deeply troubled that you're not running Government Motors? Oh .... I see.

Well, Mr. President, when you feel like you can take a principled stand on this one just let us know.
It's none of our **** business, we have enough problems of our own right now. That's what got us wasting all of that time & money in Iraq. Let countries deal with their own problems and rule how they want, we don't need to **** in, in everything everyone does. We can only spread ourselves so thin.

We, as a country, have to deal with other countries diplomatically. Letting everyone know exactly what we think of them at every turn when it's none of our concern, is only a fast way to make enemies unecessarily. Just look at North Korea, all their talking is only going to accomplish that they get their nuclear missiles and plutonium shoved far up their ***.

 

RoyalOrleans

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It's none of our **** business, we have enough problems of our own right now. That's what got us wasting all of that time & money in Iraq. Let countries deal with their own problems and rule how they want, we don't need to **** in, in everything everyone does. We can only spread ourselves so thin.
We, as a country, have to deal with other countries diplomatically. Letting everyone know exactly what we think of them at every turn when it's none of our concern, is only a fast way to make enemies unecessarily. Just look at North Korea, all their talking is only going to accomplish that they get their nuclear missiles and plutonium shoved far up their ***.
Wow... its like deja vu all over again. This must be a favorite resonse of yours, Chi, because no matter the situation is with a foreign power this seems to be your "cookie cutter" answer.

Obama's Iran Abdication

 

snafu

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We should try to respect other countries sovereignty only if it does not affect our security or the oppression of other people. In this case it would be safe to say it does affect our security.
 

Chi

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Wow... its like deja vu all over again. This must be a favorite resonse of yours, Chi, because no matter the situation is with a foreign power this seems to be your "cookie cutter" answer.
Obama's Iran Abdication
Deja vu, cookie cutter answer, whatever you want to call it, I'm sorry that you see it that way, but that's my view on the situation. It's still reckless and dumb to meddle in other's affairs unecessarily.

Tell me, how would you like it if other countries were protesting about how we handle our elections and that they talk **** about it and demand a recount for us? Say back when Bush Jr. got elected or re-elected?

 

Chi

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In this case it would be safe to say it does affect our security.
How so? Even if that were a fact, we still can't dictate who other countries elect, how they handle their elections, how corrupt their governments are, etc.? We can't control everything, even if we wanted to.

 

Chi

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"Jun 17, 2:35 PM EDT

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White House disputes meddling charge by Iran

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The White House is shrugging off complaints from Iran that the United States has meddled in its affairs.

Spokesman Robert Gibbs said Thursday that President Barack Obama has struck the right tone in commenting about Iran's presidential election dispute in Iran. The Iranian government reportedly has summoned the Swiss ambassador, who represents U.S. interests in Iran, to complain about American interference.

Gibbs said Obama has been clear that there is "a vigorous debate in Iran, between Iranians, about their leadership." Gibbs said Obama stands by his defense of principles such as the right of people to demonstrate in peace."

There we have it, ladies and gentlemen^^^^ If they are talking now and complaining, just imagine if we would have really meddled in their business. That's why so many countries hate us, because we **** in and try to shove our democracy and ways of doing things too much. In the same token, other countries should stop involving us and stop asking for aid from us so much.

 

ImWithStupid

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"Jun 17, 2:35 PM EDT
Latest News

White House disputes meddling charge by Iran

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The White House is shrugging off complaints from Iran that the United States has meddled in its affairs.

Spokesman Robert Gibbs said Thursday that President Barack Obama has struck the right tone in commenting about Iran's presidential election dispute in Iran. The Iranian government reportedly has summoned the Swiss ambassador, who represents U.S. interests in Iran, to complain about American interference.

Gibbs said Obama has been clear that there is "a vigorous debate in Iran, between Iranians, about their leadership." Gibbs said Obama stands by his defense of principles such as the right of people to demonstrate in peace."

There we have it, ladies and gentlemen^^^^ If they are talking now and complaining, just imagine if we would have really meddled in their business. That's why so many countries hate us, because we **** in and try to shove our democracy and ways of doing things too much. In the same token, other countries should stop involving us and stop asking for aid from us so much.
I don't think any of us said we should meddle. There's nothing wrong with giving an opinion about the events that are happening. Nobody said we should call for a UN inspector or anything.

I'm starting to take Chopper's side. Settle down, ChiaPet.

 

snafu

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We should try to respect other countries sovereignty only if it does not affect our security or the oppression of other people. In this case it would be safe to say it does affect our security.

How so? Even if that were a fact, we still can't dictate who other countries elect, how they handle their elections, how corrupt their governments are, etc.? We can't control everything, even if we wanted to.
Well both sides of the ticket here still wants position of the bomb and hates us so your right in that it almost doesn't matter. But it is a volatile country that we may need to strike. Having someone in power there that isn't as itchy on the trigger might help us.

 

RoyalOrleans

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Deja vu, cookie cutter answer, whatever you want to call it, I'm sorry that you see it that way, but that's my view on the situation. It's still reckless and dumb to meddle in other's affairs unecessarily.
To echo IWS... the point that I am laboring to make (as some of you are unable to see the forest for all the fukken trees), is we don't have to mass forces at the borders and ready an invasion of the country.

Simply declare an opinion on the matter. Show the American people that he actually has some grit. Like the fury Obama unleashed upon that fly.

Tell me, how would you like it if other countries were protesting about how we handle our elections and that they talk **** about it and demand a recount for us? Say back when Bush Jr. got elected or re-elected?
Ohhh... please. If you want to talk about stealing elections, let's talk about ACORN and their fukken ethics.

As for other countries protesting and demand a recount of elections... they are most certainly entitled to their opinion!

Opinion, Chi. A fukken opinion. Look up the definition.

 
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