Timmay is literally Burnore's bitch.

Aratzio wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
>
> >
> >
> >Hoofprints wrote:
> >>
> >> Aratzio wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> >
> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
> >> > >
> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>Ah
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>Yet another
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
> >> > >>>>anything you write.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
> >> > >
> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
> >> > >****'s sake.
> >> >
> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
> >> >
> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
> >> > >>> sigh
> >> > >
> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
> >> >
> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
> >>
> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
> >> right and also their faces.
> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
> >> more bughousers.
> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
> >> 1973.
> >> What a surprise that was.
> >
> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
> >techs use the same approach.
> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
> >information that gets passed along.]
> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
> >government funding etc.
> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
> >living had to send her back to her home.
> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
>
> Like I said,
> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
>
> Not that I actually read any of that screed.

Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
piece of cake.
The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
posted to SPP years ago.
She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
likes BDSM......
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:46:37 -0700, Hoofprints
<equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Aratzio wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>> Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>>
>> >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>> >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
>> >
>> >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>> >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>> >>
>> >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>> >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
>> >>>
>> >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
>> >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>> >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
>> >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
>> >>>>>>>>to post again.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Ah
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Yet another
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
>> >>>>anything you write.
>> >>>
>> >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
>> >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
>> >
>> >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
>> >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
>> >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
>> >****'s sake.
>>
>> Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
>> is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
>>
>> It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
>>
>> >
>> >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
>> >>> sigh
>> >
>> >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
>>
>> RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
>> constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
>> (SPP added for proper x-post)
>
>And you know this because??????
>Is it both of the following reasons:
>1. The FCC and the DNC Registry contacted you and are fining you
>$11,000.00 for each phone call you made to my home?

No that was me up in Alaska or the Maldives or Cambodia, remember? I
already paid them with my Blockbuster membership card.

>2. You attempted to send a FAX to a line that isn't a dedicated Fax
>line in the hopes that my complaint to the FCC could be proven false as
>you or your company were the ones to send me a fax asking if I wanted
>Health Care Insurance.

All AUKers are health insurance salespeople. How di dyou find out?

>3. Don't worry, the phone number was turned in twice that same day.
>Perhaps I should follow up with another addendum to my complaint to the
>FCC.

Are you sure one is enough. Maybe you should send them several to make
sure they get your point.

>ATT has already telephoned me as they have to answer to the FCC and the
>CA PUC for publishing my previous unpublished and unlisted phone number
>when they changed my customer ID.
>So far the fines are adding up to $205,000.00 dollars. I need to read
>about how I file for the $500.00 dollar fine in this State that adds up
>to $9,500.00 to date.

I'll inform AAA that they need to depost more funds into my account so
I can pay them. Thanks for the heads up!

Jade
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:35:54 -0700, Hoofprints
<equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>> > > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>> > >
>> > > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>> > > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
>> > > >
>> > > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>> > > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>> > > >>
>
>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
>> > > >>> sigh
>
>I am not signed into the other ng's where this thread originated.
>Yep, I am the big mean old witch who upholds that sitting on your arse
>wearing a nightgown and bathing clients
>with fire hoses, and that developmentally people or even the mentally
>ill don't deserve good food without salt peter in it.
>It's people like Santa's little helper and Ratz that give Mental Health
>programs a bad name.
>
>I am the one who gave a demonstration of how well Behavior Management
>techniques work when both SR+ and SR- are used at Sonoma. I was lucky
>enough to have one of the original trainers from Pacific also transfer
>to Sonoma, and there was an african american Tech working there that was
>interested in learning how to control his group and train them without
>the usual crap that you are proposing is 'the good old days'. The ratio
>in that setting was 20 clients to 1: Staff.
>My job was easy because I did it right, and wasn't stressed out during
>licensing and audits where hospital licenses can be jerked and heavy
>duty fines accrue to to staff members not doing their jobs.
>What part of DD and MI are also HUMAN Beings do you NOT understand!!
>What part of Mainstreaming do you not understand.
>The fact is that while you 'most likely' rushed around in 'PANIC' mode
>during Licensing and JCAH Audits trying to get ready to pass, that the
> easy route is to do the job correctly in the first place .
>That way your job is easy because you have already taught your clients
>that misbehavior results in time outs, not goodies, and they are happy
>to comply with your wishes and join in group activities which allow them
>more freedom than roaming around aimlessly and starting fights with
>others or staff to gain attention.
>
>I hate people like you, I truly do....
>Bughouser...

Hate is such an ugly word.

Jade
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
<equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Aratzio wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
>> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Hoofprints wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Aratzio wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>> >> >
>> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
>> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
>> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>Ah
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>Yet another
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
>> >> > >>>>anything you write.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
>> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
>> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
>> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
>> >> > >****'s sake.
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
>> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
>> >> >
>> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
>> >> > >>> sigh
>> >> > >
>> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
>> >> >
>> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
>> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
>> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
>> >>
>> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
>> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
>> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
>> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
>> >> right and also their faces.
>> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
>> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
>> >> more bughousers.
>> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
>> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
>> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
>> >> 1973.
>> >> What a surprise that was.
>> >
>> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
>> >techs use the same approach.
>> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
>> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
>> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
>> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
>> >information that gets passed along.]
>> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
>> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
>> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
>> >government funding etc.
>> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
>> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
>> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
>> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
>> >living had to send her back to her home.
>> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
>>
>> Like I said,
>> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
>> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
>>
>> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
>
>Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
>You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
>piece of cake.
>The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
>back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
>posted to SPP years ago.
>She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
>likes BDSM......

More fantasy.

But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.

Jade
 
Daedalus wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:46:37 -0700, Hoofprints
> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Aratzio wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >>
> >> >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
> >> >
> >> >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> >>
> >> >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
> >> >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
> >> >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
> >> >>>>>>>>to post again.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Ah
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Yet another
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
> >> >>>>anything you write.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
> >> >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
> >> >
> >> >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
> >> >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
> >> >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
> >> >****'s sake.
> >>
> >> Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
> >> is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
> >>
> >> It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
> >> >>> sigh
> >> >
> >> >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
> >>
> >> RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
> >> constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
> >> (SPP added for proper x-post)
> >
> >And you know this because??????
> >Is it both of the following reasons:
> >1. The FCC and the DNC Registry contacted you and are fining you
> >$11,000.00 for each phone call you made to my home?

>
> No that was me up in Alaska or the Maldives or Cambodia, remember? I
> already paid them with my Blockbuster membership card.

Funny, I did not mention what Area Code the calls came in from?

>
> >2. You attempted to send a FAX to a line that isn't a dedicated Fax
> >line in the hopes that my complaint to the FCC could be proven false as
> >you or your company were the ones to send me a fax asking if I wanted
> >Health Care Insurance.
>
> All AUKers are health insurance salespeople. How di dyou find out?
>
> >3. Don't worry, the phone number was turned in twice that same day.
> >Perhaps I should follow up with another addendum to my complaint to the
> >FCC.
>
> Are you sure one is enough. Maybe you should send them several to make
> sure they get your point.

maybe it was placed at two different hourly times. Maybe that is the
reason why, it was turned in twice.

>
> >ATT has already telephoned me as they have to answer to the FCC and the
> >CA PUC for publishing my previous unpublished and unlisted phone number
> >when they changed my customer ID.
> >So far the fines are adding up to $205,000.00 dollars. I need to read
> >about how I file for the $500.00 dollar fine in this State that adds up
> >to $9,500.00 to date.
>
> I'll inform AAA that they need to depost more funds into my account so
> I can pay them. Thanks for the heads up!
>
> Jade
 
Hoofprints wrote:
>
> Daedalus wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:46:37 -0700, Hoofprints
> > <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >Aratzio wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> > >> Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> > >>
> > >> >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> > >> >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
> > >> >
> > >> >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> > >> >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> > >> >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
> > >> >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> > >> >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
> > >> >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
> > >> >>>>>>>>to post again.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>Ah
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>Yet another
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
> > >> >>>>anything you write.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
> > >> >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
> > >> >
> > >> >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
> > >> >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
> > >> >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
> > >> >****'s sake.
> > >>
> > >> Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
> > >> is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
> > >>
> > >> It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
> > >> >>> sigh
> > >> >
> > >> >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
> > >>
> > >> RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
> > >> constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
> > >> (SPP added for proper x-post)
> > >
> > >And you know this because??????
> > >Is it both of the following reasons:
> > >1. The FCC and the DNC Registry contacted you and are fining you
> > >$11,000.00 for each phone call you made to my home?
>
> >
> > No that was me up in Alaska or the Maldives or Cambodia, remember? I
> > already paid them with my Blockbuster membership card.
>
> Funny, I did not mention what Area Code the calls came in from?
>
> >
> > >2. You attempted to send a FAX to a line that isn't a dedicated Fax
> > >line in the hopes that my complaint to the FCC could be proven false as
> > >you or your company were the ones to send me a fax asking if I wanted
> > >Health Care Insurance.
> >
> > All AUKers are health insurance salespeople. How di dyou find out?
> >
> > >3. Don't worry, the phone number was turned in twice that same day.
> > >Perhaps I should follow up with another addendum to my complaint to the
> > >FCC.
> >
> > Are you sure one is enough. Maybe you should send them several to make
> > sure they get your point.
>
> maybe it was placed at two different hourly times. Maybe that is the
> reason why, it was turned in twice.
>

So that makes it $33,000 to you or whomever it was in New Jersey.
One last month and two on the same day this month.
Tweet, Tweet, Tweety Bird.

> >
> > >ATT has already telephoned me as they have to answer to the FCC and the
> > >CA PUC for publishing my previous unpublished and unlisted phone number
> > >when they changed my customer ID.
> > >So far the fines are adding up to $205,000.00 dollars. I need to read
> > >about how I file for the $500.00 dollar fine in this State that adds up
> > >to $9,500.00 to date.
> >
> > I'll inform AAA that they need to depost more funds into my account so
> > I can pay them. Thanks for the heads up!
> >
> > Jade
 
Daedalus wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Aratzio wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
> >> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hoofprints wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Aratzio wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
> >> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
> >> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
> >> >> > >>>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>>Ah
> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>Yet another
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
> >> >> > >>>>anything you write.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
> >> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
> >> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
> >> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
> >> >> > >****'s sake.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
> >> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
> >> >> > >>> sigh
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
> >> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
> >> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
> >> >>
> >> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
> >> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
> >> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
> >> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
> >> >> right and also their faces.
> >> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
> >> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
> >> >> more bughousers.
> >> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
> >> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
> >> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
> >> >> 1973.
> >> >> What a surprise that was.
> >> >
> >> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
> >> >techs use the same approach.
> >> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
> >> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
> >> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
> >> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
> >> >information that gets passed along.]
> >> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
> >> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
> >> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
> >> >government funding etc.
> >> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
> >> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
> >> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
> >> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
> >> >living had to send her back to her home.
> >> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
> >>
> >> Like I said,
> >> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
> >> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
> >>
> >> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
> >
> >Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
> >You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
> >piece of cake.
> >The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
> >back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
> >posted to SPP years ago.
> >She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
> >likes BDSM......
>
> More fantasy.
>
> But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.

It has already been shown that Kali has had contact with 2 Steps out of
Usenet.
How do I know this to be the truth?
The same way that I find so funny that you knew 'what' area code the
telephone call came in from?
That method of fact finding is 'leaving out information' from a post,
and then letting you hang yourselves by posting that:
In your case Jade tweety bird,
Which state the phone call originated from.

In Kali's case
Where she claims that I posted to usenet that 'was in trouble with the
APA or with her college' when in fact, I had spoken to Two Steps on the
telephone and said, that "It _might be_ a possibility based on posts
from Miquel or someone else." I never posted on the internet that she
was having problems, it was done over the phone in private.

It also means that she is definitely his owner, and he is her pawn.
Because she is the reason why Ron Holm came here to investigate and to
LART me in my private residence because you couldn't get anywhere
knowing that I was escaping your LARTing because I could turn off the
computer and 'ignore' you whenever I wanted, while someone living in my
residence means that you had access to my mind nearly 24/7.
He even mentioned something to the effect': "that correction can be or
is best done when everyone co-operates and does the same thing at the
same time." I forget how that conversation went, but the statement was
made within the first few months he was here. Possibly during the time
period that I had to answer to my Board.
Linda is right on about her statements regarding LART procedures which
gained her friend curio a trip to the bughouse in San Bernadino.


>
> Jade
 
Daedalus wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Aratzio wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
> >> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hoofprints wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Aratzio wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
> >> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
> >> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
> >> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
> >> >> > >>>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>>Ah
> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> > >>>>>Yet another
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
> >> >> > >>>>anything you write.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
> >> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
> >> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
> >> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
> >> >> > >****'s sake.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
> >> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
> >> >> > >>> sigh
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
> >> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
> >> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
> >> >>
> >> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
> >> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
> >> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
> >> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
> >> >> right and also their faces.
> >> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
> >> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
> >> >> more bughousers.
> >> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
> >> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
> >> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
> >> >> 1973.
> >> >> What a surprise that was.
> >> >
> >> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
> >> >techs use the same approach.
> >> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
> >> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
> >> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
> >> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
> >> >information that gets passed along.]
> >> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
> >> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
> >> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
> >> >government funding etc.
> >> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
> >> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
> >> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
> >> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
> >> >living had to send her back to her home.
> >> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
> >>
> >> Like I said,
> >> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
> >> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
> >>
> >> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
> >
> >Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
> >You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
> >piece of cake.
> >The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
> >back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
> >posted to SPP years ago.
> >She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
> >likes BDSM......
>
> More fantasy.
>
> But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.

It has already been shown that Kali has had contact with 2 Steps out of
Usenet.
How do I know this to be the truth?
The same way that I find so funny that you knew 'what' area code the
telephone call came in from?
That method of fact finding is 'leaving out information' from a post,
and then letting you hang yourselves by posting that:
In your case Jade tweety bird,
Which state the phone call originated from.

In Kali's case
Where she claims that I posted to usenet that 'was in trouble with the
APA or with her college' when in fact, I had spoken to Two Steps on the
telephone and said, that "It _might be_ a possibility based on posts
from Miquel or someone else." I never posted on the internet that she
was having problems, it was done over the phone in private.

It also means that she is definitely his owner, and he is her pawn.
Because she is the reason why Ron Holm came here to investigate and to
LART me in my private residence because you couldn't get anywhere
knowing that I was escaping your LARTing because I could turn off the
computer and 'ignore' you whenever I wanted, while someone living in my
residence means that you had access to my mind nearly 24/7.
He even mentioned something to the effect': "that correction can be or
is best done when everyone co-operates and does the same thing at the
same time." I forget how that conversation went, but the statement was
made within the first few months he was here. Possibly during the time
period that I had to answer to my Board.
Linda is right on about her statements regarding LART procedures which
gained her friend curio a trip to the bughouse in San Bernadino.


i tried to tell you all years ago to _Lose Your Attitude Dude_, which is
far different from _Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool_ steenking
thinking.

>
> Jade
 
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:16:07 -0700, in the land of alt.aratzio,
Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> got double secret probation for
writing:

>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:18:52 GMT, in the land of alt.aratzio, Aratzio
><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:04 GMT, in alt.aratzio, Aratzio
>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>
>>>On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:28:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Aratzio
>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:53:50 -0700, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> got double secret probation for
>>>>writing:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:39:28 -0700, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> got double secret probation for
>>>>>writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:53:05 -0700, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> got double secret probation for
>>>>>>writing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:24:19 GMT, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
>>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> got double secret probation for
>>>>>>>writing:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:14:45 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
>>>>>>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
>>>>>>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>K. A. Cannon <kcannon@insurgent.orgy> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> posted:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> bloviated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> bloviated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>[...]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Kevin is busy working out which toe goes where after yet another
>>>>>>>>>>>hilariously funny Usenet gaffe. Maybe Sharon will drop by. If her
>>>>>>>>>>>paranoia is so bad its causing her to see me following her all over
>>>>>>>>>>>Usenet again, then she will need to find her tinfoil hat. It looks
>>>>>>>>>>>like you're left with MP, so effectively you're on your own.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>><Dimmy tries to change subject>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Lil wanker Dimmy, 7 days and not even a lurker.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sad how you will have to spend the rest of your usenet time knowing
>>>>>>>>that not even one of your fellow kooks thought enough of your repetive
>>>>>>>>lamery to agree with you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Squat
>>>>>>>>Zip
>>>>>>>>Nada
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Seven ****ing Days
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Incredible as it seems, only 8 short days have expired since Dimmy
>>>>>>>mewled for his adoring fans to rescue him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Squat
>>>>>>>Zip
>>>>>>>Nada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yep, same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Squat
>>>>>>Zip
>>>>>>Nada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dimmy will return shortly to expound how a daily post to describe
>>>>>>his complete and utter failure is also a spank.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That is all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Day ten, the results are like a Dimmy post. Same thing day after day
>>>>>after day.
>>>>>
>>>>>Squat
>>>>>Zip
>>>>>Nada
>>>>>
>>>>>I did try to recruit a friend for Dimmy, but was rebuffed. No one
>>>>>seems to care about poor Dimmy and his situation .
>>>>
>>>>Day Eleven.
>>>>The crickets are getting louder. There is nothing to halt their
>>>>droning.
>>>>
>>>>Squat
>>>>Zip
>>>>Nada
>>>
>>>Well, Dimmy, we may have solved your problem. If I can find a drunken
>>>bum willing to work for the peanuts (real ones) that you are able to
>>>pay we may be able to buy you a friend. Sharon has suggest the TLSWD
>>>but when contacted the dog rolled over and played dead. But until
>>>something can be arranged you will have to accept the current numbers
>>>associated with you plea for help.
>>>
>>>Squat
>>>Zip
>>>Nada
>>>
>>
>>YAY FOR DIMMY! HE HAS FWEINDS!
>>Not one but TWO posters came out and supported you. One is being
>>nice the other, well, anonymous sockpuppets are just so passe.
>>
>>So you can do your offishul "I WEEN!" dance (please no video) and all
>>the various and assorted parties here , well, most if not all will
>>continue to laugh at your failure.
>>
>
>Looks like I was a bit premature with the congrats thing. Seems you
>were trolled.
>
>By the by, did you notice it has been 2 ****ing weeks.
>
>Squat
>Zip
>Nada

What will you do Dimmy? Claim victory because "it's only been 1/2 of a
month" since you begged for help?

Squat
Zip
Nada

--

Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Aratzio - Usenet ruiner #2
 
"Jade hasn't said anything about this nym yet, except that she said that she
said something about it a long tyme ago..." <jade@netkooks.org> wrote in
message news:2410680.yQvFsA8yEe@unixd0rk.com...
> John "C" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Flying ****" <rob.wolfe@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1646975.PUnx9qar6X@unixd0rk.com...
> >> Meat Plow wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:46:05 +0100, Timmay! wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> >>>Timmay! wrote:
> >> >>>> Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>Timmay! wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>Timmay! wrote:
> >> >>>> [...]
> >> >>>>>>>>You're a dumb American. You wouldn't know irony if it hijacked
a
> >> >>>>>>>>plane and crashed it into your house.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>I am in complete control of your impotent snip and run
> >> >>>>>>>****wittery.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Writes everyone's favourite
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I am a favorite of many but probably not everyone. But thank you
> >> >>>>>anyway, ****wit.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>You don't meet too many people
> >> >>>
> >> >>>That whine, bawl and run like you? There's a few but you're right up
> >> >>>there near the top.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well lookey here
> >> >
> >> > Yeh, lookey here, you're back with a note on your back that says
"Kick
> >> > Me".
> >> >
> >> > heh
> >>
> >> probably put your shirt on by accident when you two were discovered
> >> behind that bush in the park last night.
> >
> > LOL !
>
> next they'll both cry: "faglame!"

Do tell.....

http://www.jibjab.com/starring_you/receipt/1540189
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:48:42 -0400
Flying **** <rob.wolfe@gmail.com> wasted precious bandwith with:

> §ñühw¤£f wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:31:29 -0400
> > Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.net> wasted precious bandwith with:
> >
> >> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:46:09 +0100, Timmay! wrote:
> >>
> >> > Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> >>Timmay! wrote:
> >> >>> Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>Timmay! wrote:
> >> >>>>> Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>Timmay! wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> < snip>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Kevin A. Cannon is a well known alt.flame punching
> >bag> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Well known by who?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> alt.flame,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>> Alt.flame is net.dead you twittering snip and run
> >****wit.> >>>
> >> >>>>> Your
> >> >>
> >> >>>> My post was correct.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> DANGER WILL ROBINSON! LETHAL LEVELS OF IRONY DETECTED
> >> >IMPACTING>> JUPITER ONE! JUPITER ONE IRONY SHIELD IS GOING
> >> >CRITICAL! TEMPERATURE>> RISING RAPIDLY! SHIELD WILL
> >DISINTEGRATE> >IF HARDWARE NOT IMMEDIATELY>> COOLED. ENGAGE THE
> >SUPECONDUCTORS!> >PUMP LIQUID NITROGEN INTO THE>> SHIELD! PREPARE
> >EVACUATION PLAN!> >DANGER WILL ROBINSON!>
> >> >> Nice mini-meltdown my little nerve struck ****wit.
> >> >
> >> > I've got
> >>
> >> As usual you've got nothing.
> >>
> > Wheres that demo CD you promised me?
> >
>
> he tried to give it out, but the RIAA sued him.
>
The mafIAA dont like nobody musclin in on their turf, see?

--
www.smirkingchimp.com
 
In <47178DED.2636B01A@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
:
:
: Aratzio wrote:
: >
: > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: >
: > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
: > >
: > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: > >>
: > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
: > >>>
: > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
: > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
: > >>>>
: > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
: > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
: > >>>>>>>>to post again.
: > >>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>Ah
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>Yet another
: > >>>>
: > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
: > >>>>anything you write.
: > >>>
: > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
: > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
: > >
: > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
: > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
: > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
: > >****'s sake.
: >
: > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
: > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
: >
: > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
: >
: > >
: > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
: > >>> sigh
: > >
: > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
: >
: > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
: > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
: > (SPP added for proper x-post)
:
: And you know this because??????
: Is it both of the following reasons:
: 1. The FCC and the DNC Registry contacted you and are fining you
: $11,000.00 for each phone call you made to my home?
: 2. You attempted to send a FAX to a line that isn't a dedicated Fax
: line in the hopes that my complaint to the FCC could be proven false as
: you or your company were the ones to send me a fax asking if I wanted
: Health Care Insurance.
: 3. Don't worry, the phone number was turned in twice that same day.
: Perhaps I should follow up with another addendum to my complaint to the
: FCC.
: ATT has already telephoned me as they have to answer to the FCC and the
: CA PUC for publishing my previous unpublished and unlisted phone number
: when they changed my customer ID.
: So far the fines are adding up to $205,000.00 dollars. I need to read
: about how I file for the $500.00 dollar fine in this State that adds up
: to $9,500.00 to date.

Wow, you're claiming that Aratzio telephoned you and sent you a
fax about health insurance?

: >
: > >
: > >>Brave Sir Robin returns.
: > >
: > >Aratzio: "Run Awaaaay!"
: > Brave Sir RObin: "I know you are but what am I"
: >
: > >
: > >Tsk, tsk. Your spine probably has the consistency of a nylon rope, you sad
: > >little man.
: >
: > So you are saying it is better to have a rod rammed somewhere to
: > "stiffen the spine"?
:
Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
 
In <ib9fh3504f9fulbheabo9ah5ij1s79jb1m@4ax.com>, Aratzio
a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com said:
: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
: <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
:
: >
: >
: >Hoofprints wrote:
: >>
: >> Aratzio wrote:
: >> >
: >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: >> >
: >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
: >> > >
: >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: >> > >>
: >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
: >> > >>>
: >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
: >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
: >> > >>>>
: >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: >> > >>>>>>>>
: >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
: >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
: >> > >>>>>>>>
: >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
: >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
: >> > >>>>>>>
: >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
: >> > >>>>>>
: >> > >>>>>>Ah
: >> > >>>>>
: >> > >>>>>Yet another
: >> > >>>>
: >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
: >> > >>>>anything you write.
: >> > >>>
: >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
: >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
: >> > >
: >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
: >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
: >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
: >> > >****'s sake.
: >> >
: >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
: >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
: >> >
: >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
: >> >
: >> > >
: >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
: >> > >>> sigh
: >> > >
: >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
: >> >
: >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
: >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
: >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
: >>
: >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
: >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
: >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
: >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
: >> right and also their faces.
: >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
: >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
: >> more bughousers.
: >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
: >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
: >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
: >> 1973.
: >> What a surprise that was.
: >
: >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
: >techs use the same approach.
: >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
: >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
: >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
: >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
: >information that gets passed along.]
: >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
: >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
: >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
: >government funding etc.
: >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
: >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
: >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
: >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
: >living had to send her back to her home.
: >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
:
:
: Like I said,
: "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
: right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
:
: Not that I actually read any of that screed.

Hey, you got three followups.

Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
 
In <o1afh3hogmdl66norlpmeehulodv68ssv2@4ax.com>, Daedalus
jade@netk0o0oks.org said:
: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:46:37 -0700, Hoofprints
: <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
:
: >
: >
: >Aratzio wrote:
: >>
: >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: >> Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: >>
: >> >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: >> >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
: >> >
: >> >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: >> >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: >> >>
: >> >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: >> >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
: >> >>>
: >> >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
: >> >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
: >> >>>>
: >> >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: >> >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: >> >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: >> >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: >> >>>>>>>>
: >> >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
: >> >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
: >> >>>>>>>>
: >> >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
: >> >>>>>>>>to post again.
: >> >>>>>>>
: >> >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
: >> >>>>>>
: >> >>>>>>Ah
: >> >>>>>
: >> >>>>>Yet another
: >> >>>>
: >> >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
: >> >>>>anything you write.
: >> >>>
: >> >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
: >> >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
: >> >
: >> >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
: >> >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
: >> >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
: >> >****'s sake.
: >>
: >> Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
: >> is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
: >>
: >> It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
: >>
: >> >
: >> >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
: >> >>> sigh
: >> >
: >> >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
: >>
: >> RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
: >> constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
: >> (SPP added for proper x-post)
: >
: >And you know this because??????
: >Is it both of the following reasons:
: >1. The FCC and the DNC Registry contacted you and are fining you
: >$11,000.00 for each phone call you made to my home?
:
: No that was me up in Alaska or the Maldives or Cambodia, remember? I
: already paid them with my Blockbuster membership card.

I thought that Blockbuster refused to grant you licensing
because of your Usenet posts to Hoofy?

: >2. You attempted to send a FAX to a line that isn't a dedicated Fax
: >line in the hopes that my complaint to the FCC could be proven false as
: >you or your company were the ones to send me a fax asking if I wanted
: >Health Care Insurance.
:
: All AUKers are health insurance salespeople. How di dyou find out?

But their careers are ruined because they can't get licensed.

: >3. Don't worry, the phone number was turned in twice that same day.
: >Perhaps I should follow up with another addendum to my complaint to the
: >FCC.
:
: Are you sure one is enough. Maybe you should send them several to make
: sure they get your point.

Along with the sloppy copies!

: >ATT has already telephoned me as they have to answer to the FCC and the
: >CA PUC for publishing my previous unpublished and unlisted phone number
: >when they changed my customer ID.
: >So far the fines are adding up to $205,000.00 dollars. I need to read
: >about how I file for the $500.00 dollar fine in this State that adds up
: >to $9,500.00 to date.
:
: I'll inform AAA that they need to depost more funds into my account so
: I can pay them. Thanks for the heads up!

I wonder if my AAAdvantage membership will be revoked after all
this.

: Jade
:
Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
 
In <0fafh3t4tcs5gvp15h5ebnr1beshp310fi@4ax.com>, Daedalus
jade@netk0o0oks.org said:
: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
: <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
:
: >
: >
: >Aratzio wrote:
: >>
: >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
: >> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
: >>
: >> >
: >> >
: >> >Hoofprints wrote:
: >> >>
: >> >> Aratzio wrote:
: >> >> >
: >> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: >> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: >> >> >
: >> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: >> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
: >> >> > >
: >> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: >> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: >> >> > >>
: >> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: >> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
: >> >> > >>>
: >> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
: >> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
: >> >> > >>>>
: >> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: >> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: >> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: >> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: >> >> > >>>>>>>>
: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
: >> >> > >>>>>>>>
: >> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
: >> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
: >> >> > >>>>>>>
: >> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
: >> >> > >>>>>>
: >> >> > >>>>>>Ah
: >> >> > >>>>>
: >> >> > >>>>>Yet another
: >> >> > >>>>
: >> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
: >> >> > >>>>anything you write.
: >> >> > >>>
: >> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
: >> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
: >> >> > >
: >> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
: >> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
: >> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
: >> >> > >****'s sake.
: >> >> >
: >> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
: >> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
: >> >> >
: >> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
: >> >> >
: >> >> > >
: >> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
: >> >> > >>> sigh
: >> >> > >
: >> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
: >> >> >
: >> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
: >> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
: >> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
: >> >>
: >> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
: >> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
: >> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
: >> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
: >> >> right and also their faces.
: >> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
: >> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
: >> >> more bughousers.
: >> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
: >> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
: >> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
: >> >> 1973.
: >> >> What a surprise that was.
: >> >
: >> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
: >> >techs use the same approach.
: >> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
: >> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
: >> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
: >> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
: >> >information that gets passed along.]
: >> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
: >> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
: >> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
: >> >government funding etc.
: >> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
: >> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
: >> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
: >> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
: >> >living had to send her back to her home.
: >> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
: >>
: >> Like I said,
: >> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
: >> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
: >>
: >> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
: >
: >Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
: >You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
: >piece of cake.
: >The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
: >back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
: >posted to SPP years ago.
: >She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
: >likes BDSM......
:
: More fantasy.
:
: But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.

I saw a picture of that somewhere on the Internet.

: Jade
:
:
Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
 
In <4717BA10.478E67CF@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
:
:
: Daedalus wrote:
: >
: > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
: > <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >
: > >
: > >
: > >Aratzio wrote:
: > >>
: > >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
: > >> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
: > >>
: > >> >
: > >> >
: > >> >Hoofprints wrote:
: > >> >>
: > >> >> Aratzio wrote:
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: > >> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: > >> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
: > >> >> > >
: > >> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
: > >> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
: > >> >> > >>
: > >> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
: > >> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
: > >> >> > >>>
: > >> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
: > >> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
: > >> >> > >>>>
: > >> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: > >> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>
: > >> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
: > >> >> > >>>>>>
: > >> >> > >>>>>>Ah
: > >> >> > >>>>>
: > >> >> > >>>>>Yet another
: > >> >> > >>>>
: > >> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
: > >> >> > >>>>anything you write.
: > >> >> > >>>
: > >> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
: > >> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
: > >> >> > >
: > >> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
: > >> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
: > >> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
: > >> >> > >****'s sake.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
: > >> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > >
: > >> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
: > >> >> > >>> sigh
: > >> >> > >
: > >> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
: > >> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
: > >> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
: > >> >>
: > >> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
: > >> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
: > >> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
: > >> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
: > >> >> right and also their faces.
: > >> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
: > >> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
: > >> >> more bughousers.
: > >> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
: > >> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
: > >> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
: > >> >> 1973.
: > >> >> What a surprise that was.
: > >> >
: > >> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
: > >> >techs use the same approach.
: > >> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
: > >> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
: > >> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
: > >> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
: > >> >information that gets passed along.]
: > >> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
: > >> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
: > >> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
: > >> >government funding etc.
: > >> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
: > >> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
: > >> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
: > >> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
: > >> >living had to send her back to her home.
: > >> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
: > >>
: > >> Like I said,
: > >> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
: > >> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
: > >>
: > >> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
: > >
: > >Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
: > >You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
: > >piece of cake.
: > >The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
: > >back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
: > >posted to SPP years ago.
: > >She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
: > >likes BDSM......
: >
: > More fantasy.
: >
: > But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.
:
: It has already been shown that Kali has had contact with 2 Steps out of
: Usenet.

Where? By whom?

: How do I know this to be the truth?
: The same way that I find so funny that you knew 'what' area code the
: telephone call came in from?

Ah, your delusions. The dark place from whence came all the b.s.

: That method of fact finding is 'leaving out information' from a post,
: and then letting you hang yourselves by posting that:
: In your case Jade tweety bird,
: Which state the phone call originated from.

Now you're just being silly.

: In Kali's case
: Where she claims that I posted to usenet that 'was in trouble with the
: APA or with her college' when in fact, I had spoken to Two Steps on the
: telephone and said, that "It _might be_ a possibility based on posts
: from Miquel or someone else." I never posted on the internet that she
: was having problems, it was done over the phone in private.

You're lying. You have posted it several times recently, as if
it were fact.

: It also means that she is definitely his owner, and he is her pawn.

Nothing new there.

: Because she is the reason why Ron Holm came here to investigate and to
: LART me in my private residence because you couldn't get anywhere
: knowing that I was escaping your LARTing because I could turn off the
: computer and 'ignore' you whenever I wanted, while someone living in my
: residence means that you had access to my mind nearly 24/7.

You said that Holm was hired (by Giarmo) to investigate me , or
have you forgotten?

: He even mentioned something to the effect': "that correction can be or
: is best done when everyone co-operates and does the same thing at the
: same time." I forget how that conversation went, but the statement was
: made within the first few months he was here. Possibly during the time
: period that I had to answer to my Board.

Who?

: Linda is right on about her statements regarding LART procedures which
: gained her friend curio a trip to the bughouse in San Bernadino.

Linda is a delusional nut case.

You just like to believe anything anyone tells you about people
you don't like on Usenet.

: >
: > Jade
:
Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
 
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:35:34 -0400, Kali <kali@powder.keg> wrote:

>In <o1afh3hogmdl66norlpmeehulodv68ssv2@4ax.com>, Daedalus
>jade@netk0o0oks.org said:
>: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:46:37 -0700, Hoofprints
>: <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>:
>: >
>: >
>: >Aratzio wrote:
>: >>
>: >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>: >> Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>: >>
>: >> >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>: >> >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
>: >> >
>: >> >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>: >> >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>: >> >>
>: >> >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>: >> >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
>: >> >>>
>: >> >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
>: >> >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
>: >> >>>>
>: >> >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>: >> >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>: >> >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>: >> >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>: >> >>>>>>>>
>: >> >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
>: >> >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
>: >> >>>>>>>>
>: >> >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
>: >> >>>>>>>>to post again.
>: >> >>>>>>>
>: >> >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
>: >> >>>>>>
>: >> >>>>>>Ah
>: >> >>>>>
>: >> >>>>>Yet another
>: >> >>>>
>: >> >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
>: >> >>>>anything you write.
>: >> >>>
>: >> >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
>: >> >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
>: >> >
>: >> >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
>: >> >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
>: >> >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
>: >> >****'s sake.
>: >>
>: >> Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
>: >> is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
>: >>
>: >> It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
>: >>
>: >> >
>: >> >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
>: >> >>> sigh
>: >> >
>: >> >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
>: >>
>: >> RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
>: >> constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
>: >> (SPP added for proper x-post)
>: >
>: >And you know this because??????
>: >Is it both of the following reasons:
>: >1. The FCC and the DNC Registry contacted you and are fining you
>: >$11,000.00 for each phone call you made to my home?
>:
>: No that was me up in Alaska or the Maldives or Cambodia, remember? I
>: already paid them with my Blockbuster membership card.
>
>I thought that Blockbuster refused to grant you licensing
>because of your Usenet posts to Hoofy?

They did, but since I'm part of the evul cabal I had their president
assassinated and now I get free rentals and licensing.

>
>: >2. You attempted to send a FAX to a line that isn't a dedicated Fax
>: >line in the hopes that my complaint to the FCC could be proven false as
>: >you or your company were the ones to send me a fax asking if I wanted
>: >Health Care Insurance.
>:
>: All AUKers are health insurance salespeople. How di dyou find out?
>
>But their careers are ruined because they can't get licensed.
>

Damn the Hoofy and her trouble causing ways.

>: >3. Don't worry, the phone number was turned in twice that same day.
>: >Perhaps I should follow up with another addendum to my complaint to the
>: >FCC.
>:
>: Are you sure one is enough. Maybe you should send them several to make
>: sure they get your point.
>
>Along with the sloppy copies!
>

And the grocery lits!

>: >ATT has already telephoned me as they have to answer to the FCC and the
>: >CA PUC for publishing my previous unpublished and unlisted phone number
>: >when they changed my customer ID.
>: >So far the fines are adding up to $205,000.00 dollars. I need to read
>: >about how I file for the $500.00 dollar fine in this State that adds up
>: >to $9,500.00 to date.
>:
>: I'll inform AAA that they need to depost more funds into my account so
>: I can pay them. Thanks for the heads up!
>
>I wonder if my AAAdvantage membership will be revoked after all
>this.

Let me know if it is. I'll take care of it for you.

TROIKA!

Jade
 
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:36:14 -0400, Kali <kali@powder.keg> wrote:

>In <0fafh3t4tcs5gvp15h5ebnr1beshp310fi@4ax.com>, Daedalus
>jade@netk0o0oks.org said:
>: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
>: <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>:
>: >
>: >
>: >Aratzio wrote:
>: >>
>: >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
>: >> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
>: >>
>: >> >
>: >> >
>: >> >Hoofprints wrote:
>: >> >>
>: >> >> Aratzio wrote:
>: >> >> >
>: >> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>: >> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>: >> >> >
>: >> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>: >> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
>: >> >> > >
>: >> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>: >> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>: >> >> > >>
>: >> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>: >> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
>: >> >> > >>>
>: >> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
>: >> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
>: >> >> > >>>>
>: >> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>: >> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>>
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>>
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>
>: >> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
>: >> >> > >>>>>>
>: >> >> > >>>>>>Ah
>: >> >> > >>>>>
>: >> >> > >>>>>Yet another
>: >> >> > >>>>
>: >> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
>: >> >> > >>>>anything you write.
>: >> >> > >>>
>: >> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
>: >> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
>: >> >> > >
>: >> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
>: >> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
>: >> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
>: >> >> > >****'s sake.
>: >> >> >
>: >> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
>: >> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
>: >> >> >
>: >> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
>: >> >> >
>: >> >> > >
>: >> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
>: >> >> > >>> sigh
>: >> >> > >
>: >> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
>: >> >> >
>: >> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
>: >> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
>: >> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
>: >> >>
>: >> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
>: >> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
>: >> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
>: >> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
>: >> >> right and also their faces.
>: >> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
>: >> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
>: >> >> more bughousers.
>: >> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
>: >> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
>: >> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
>: >> >> 1973.
>: >> >> What a surprise that was.
>: >> >
>: >> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
>: >> >techs use the same approach.
>: >> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
>: >> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
>: >> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
>: >> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
>: >> >information that gets passed along.]
>: >> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
>: >> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
>: >> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
>: >> >government funding etc.
>: >> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
>: >> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
>: >> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
>: >> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
>: >> >living had to send her back to her home.
>: >> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
>: >>
>: >> Like I said,
>: >> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
>: >> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
>: >>
>: >> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
>: >
>: >Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
>: >You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
>: >piece of cake.
>: >The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
>: >back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
>: >posted to SPP years ago.
>: >She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
>: >likes BDSM......
>:
>: More fantasy.
>:
>: But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.
>
>I saw a picture of that somewhere on the Internet.

I think I heard about that. Elbow licking pr0n is big on teh net.

Jade
 
Kali wrote:
>
> In <4717BA10.478E67CF@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
> equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
> :
> :
> : Daedalus wrote:
> : >
> : > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
> : > <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
> : >
> : > >
> : > >
> : > >Aratzio wrote:
> : > >>
> : > >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
> : > >> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
> : > >>
> : > >> >
> : > >> >
> : > >> >Hoofprints wrote:
> : > >> >>
> : > >> >> Aratzio wrote:
> : > >> >> >
> : > >> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> : > >> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> : > >> >> >
> : > >> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> : > >> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
> : > >> >> > >
> : > >> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> : > >> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> : > >> >> > >>
> : > >> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> : > >> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
> : > >> >> > >>>
> : > >> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
> : > >> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
> : > >> >> > >>>>
> : > >> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>
> : > >> >> > >>>>>>Ah
> : > >> >> > >>>>>
> : > >> >> > >>>>>Yet another
> : > >> >> > >>>>
> : > >> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
> : > >> >> > >>>>anything you write.
> : > >> >> > >>>
> : > >> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
> : > >> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
> : > >> >> > >
> : > >> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
> : > >> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
> : > >> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
> : > >> >> > >****'s sake.
> : > >> >> >
> : > >> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
> : > >> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
> : > >> >> >
> : > >> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
> : > >> >> >
> : > >> >> > >
> : > >> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
> : > >> >> > >>> sigh
> : > >> >> > >
> : > >> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
> : > >> >> >
> : > >> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
> : > >> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
> : > >> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
> : > >> >>
> : > >> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
> : > >> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
> : > >> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
> : > >> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
> : > >> >> right and also their faces.
> : > >> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
> : > >> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
> : > >> >> more bughousers.
> : > >> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
> : > >> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
> : > >> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
> : > >> >> 1973.
> : > >> >> What a surprise that was.
> : > >> >
> : > >> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
> : > >> >techs use the same approach.
> : > >> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
> : > >> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
> : > >> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
> : > >> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
> : > >> >information that gets passed along.]
> : > >> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
> : > >> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
> : > >> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
> : > >> >government funding etc.
> : > >> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
> : > >> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
> : > >> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
> : > >> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
> : > >> >living had to send her back to her home.
> : > >> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
> : > >>
> : > >> Like I said,
> : > >> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
> : > >> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
> : > >>
> : > >> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
> : > >
> : > >Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
> : > >You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
> : > >piece of cake.
> : > >The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
> : > >back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
> : > >posted to SPP years ago.
> : > >She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
> : > >likes BDSM......
> : >
> : > More fantasy.
> : >
> : > But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.
> :
> : It has already been shown that Kali has had contact with 2 Steps out of
> : Usenet.
>
> Where? By whom?

Liar..... You were shown to be a liar about filing bankruptcy you have
absolutely no integrity whatsoever, I would hate to think of the number
of times you have lied to your professors in order to get your Ph.D.
How many papers did you turn in that contained lies to support you
premises so you could gain an A?
>
> : How do I know this to be the truth?
> : The same way that I find so funny that you knew 'what' area code the
> : telephone call came in from?
>
> Ah, your delusions. The dark place from whence came all the b.s.

Projections from some one who wanted to impress Leola in SMDH
approximately 2001 or 2002.
IIRC you made some statement to me in a post in SPP something to the
effect:
So You think you're smarter than Leola.
That post was made in response to the fact that Leola was shown to lie
about being a licensed Paralegal when in fact there is no such beast
or there was no such license during that time period.
Leola got booted out of SPP by Two Steps, and had a tizzy fit.
She even was exposed by Rick a Forensic Psychologist when he revealed
some of her private email exchanges between the two of them.

>
> : That method of fact finding is 'leaving out information' from a post,
> : and then letting you hang yourselves by posting that:
> : In your case Jade tweety bird,
> : Which state the phone call originated from.
>
> Now you're just being silly.
>
> : In Kali's case
> : Where she claims that I posted to usenet that 'was in trouble with the
> : APA or with her college' when in fact, I had spoken to Two Steps on the
> : telephone and said, that "It _might be_ a possibility based on posts
> : from Miquel or someone else." I never posted on the internet that she
> : was having problems, it was done over the phone in private.
>
> You're lying. You have posted it several times recently, as if
> it were fact.
>
> : It also means that she is definitely his owner, and he is her pawn.
>
> Nothing new there.
>
> : Because she is the reason why Ron Holm came here to investigate and to
> : LART me in my private residence because you couldn't get anywhere
> : knowing that I was escaping your LARTing because I could turn off the
> : computer and 'ignore' you whenever I wanted, while someone living in my
> : residence means that you had access to my mind nearly 24/7.
>
> You said that Holm was hired (by Giarmo) to investigate me , or
> have you forgotten?
>
> : He even mentioned something to the effect': "that correction can be or
> : is best done when everyone co-operates and does the same thing at the
> : same time." I forget how that conversation went, but the statement was
> : made within the first few months he was here. Possibly during the time
> : period that I had to answer to my Board.
>
> Who?
>
> : Linda is right on about her statements regarding LART procedures which
> : gained her friend curio a trip to the bughouse in San Bernadino.
>
> Linda is a delusional nut case.
>
> You just like to believe anything anyone tells you about people
> you don't like on Usenet.
>
> : >
> : > Jade
> :
> Kali
> --
> "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
> research, would it?"
> - Albert Einstein
 
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:02:34 -0700, Hoofprints
<equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Kali wrote:
>>
>> In <4717BA10.478E67CF@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
>> equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
>> :
>> :
>> : Daedalus wrote:
>> : >
>> : > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
>> : > <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> : >
>> : > >
>> : > >
>> : > >Aratzio wrote:
>> : > >>
>> : > >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
>> : > >> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
>> : > >>
>> : > >> >
>> : > >> >
>> : > >> >Hoofprints wrote:
>> : > >> >>
>> : > >> >> Aratzio wrote:
>> : > >> >> >
>> : > >> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>> : > >> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>> : > >> >> >
>> : > >> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>> : > >> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
>> : > >> >> > >
>> : > >> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
>> : > >> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
>> : > >> >> > >>
>> : > >> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
>> : > >> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
>> : > >> >> > >>>
>> : > >> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
>> : > >> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
>> : > >> >> > >>>>
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>>Ah
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>
>> : > >> >> > >>>>>Yet another
>> : > >> >> > >>>>
>> : > >> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
>> : > >> >> > >>>>anything you write.
>> : > >> >> > >>>
>> : > >> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
>> : > >> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
>> : > >> >> > >
>> : > >> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
>> : > >> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
>> : > >> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
>> : > >> >> > >****'s sake.
>> : > >> >> >
>> : > >> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
>> : > >> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
>> : > >> >> >
>> : > >> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
>> : > >> >> >
>> : > >> >> > >
>> : > >> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
>> : > >> >> > >>> sigh
>> : > >> >> > >
>> : > >> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
>> : > >> >> >
>> : > >> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
>> : > >> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
>> : > >> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
>> : > >> >>
>> : > >> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
>> : > >> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
>> : > >> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
>> : > >> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
>> : > >> >> right and also their faces.
>> : > >> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
>> : > >> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
>> : > >> >> more bughousers.
>> : > >> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
>> : > >> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
>> : > >> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
>> : > >> >> 1973.
>> : > >> >> What a surprise that was.
>> : > >> >
>> : > >> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
>> : > >> >techs use the same approach.
>> : > >> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
>> : > >> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
>> : > >> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
>> : > >> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
>> : > >> >information that gets passed along.]
>> : > >> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
>> : > >> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
>> : > >> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
>> : > >> >government funding etc.
>> : > >> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
>> : > >> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
>> : > >> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
>> : > >> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
>> : > >> >living had to send her back to her home.
>> : > >> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
>> : > >>
>> : > >> Like I said,
>> : > >> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
>> : > >> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
>> : > >>
>> : > >> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
>> : > >
>> : > >Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
>> : > >You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
>> : > >piece of cake.
>> : > >The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
>> : > >back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
>> : > >posted to SPP years ago.
>> : > >She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
>> : > >likes BDSM......
>> : >
>> : > More fantasy.
>> : >
>> : > But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.
>> :
>> : It has already been shown that Kali has had contact with 2 Steps out of
>> : Usenet.
>>
>> Where? By whom?
>
>Liar..... You were shown to be a liar about filing bankruptcy you have
>absolutely no integrity whatsoever, I would hate to think of the number
>of times you have lied to your professors in order to get your Ph.D.
>How many papers did you turn in that contained lies to support you
>premises so you could gain an A?

Always good to change the subject instead of answer her request for
proof of your acrimonoius claims.

I think the real liar just stood up.


>>
>> : How do I know this to be the truth?
>> : The same way that I find so funny that you knew 'what' area code the
>> : telephone call came in from?
>>
>> Ah, your delusions. The dark place from whence came all the b.s.
>
>Projections from some one who wanted to impress Leola in SMDH
>approximately 2001 or 2002.

Have you ever heard the old mantle "Stop living in the past?"

>IIRC you made some statement to me in a post in SPP something to the
>effect:
>So You think you're smarter than Leola.
>That post was made in response to the fact that Leola was shown to lie
>about being a licensed Paralegal when in fact there is no such beast
>or there was no such license during that time period.
>Leola got booted out of SPP by Two Steps, and had a tizzy fit.
>She even was exposed by Rick a Forensic Psychologist when he revealed
>some of her private email exchanges between the two of them.
>

He sounds like a sleaze. Just your type.

But what does any of this have to do with firehoses?

Jade

>>
>> : That method of fact finding is 'leaving out information' from a post,
>> : and then letting you hang yourselves by posting that:
>> : In your case Jade tweety bird,
>> : Which state the phone call originated from.
>>
>> Now you're just being silly.
>>
>> : In Kali's case
>> : Where she claims that I posted to usenet that 'was in trouble with the
>> : APA or with her college' when in fact, I had spoken to Two Steps on the
>> : telephone and said, that "It _might be_ a possibility based on posts
>> : from Miquel or someone else." I never posted on the internet that she
>> : was having problems, it was done over the phone in private.
>>
>> You're lying. You have posted it several times recently, as if
>> it were fact.
>>
>> : It also means that she is definitely his owner, and he is her pawn.
>>
>> Nothing new there.
>>
>> : Because she is the reason why Ron Holm came here to investigate and to
>> : LART me in my private residence because you couldn't get anywhere
>> : knowing that I was escaping your LARTing because I could turn off the
>> : computer and 'ignore' you whenever I wanted, while someone living in my
>> : residence means that you had access to my mind nearly 24/7.
>>
>> You said that Holm was hired (by Giarmo) to investigate me , or
>> have you forgotten?
>>
>> : He even mentioned something to the effect': "that correction can be or
>> : is best done when everyone co-operates and does the same thing at the
>> : same time." I forget how that conversation went, but the statement was
>> : made within the first few months he was here. Possibly during the time
>> : period that I had to answer to my Board.
>>
>> Who?
>>
>> : Linda is right on about her statements regarding LART procedures which
>> : gained her friend curio a trip to the bughouse in San Bernadino.
>>
>> Linda is a delusional nut case.
>>
>> You just like to believe anything anyone tells you about people
>> you don't like on Usenet.
>>
>> : >
>> : > Jade
>> :
>> Kali
>> --
>> "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
>> research, would it?"
>> - Albert Einstein
 

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