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Daedalus wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:02:34 -0700, Hoofprints
> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Kali wrote:
> >>
> >> In <4717BA10.478E67CF@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
> >> equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
> >> :
> >> :
> >> : Daedalus wrote:
> >> : >
> >> : > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
> >> : > <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> : >
> >> : > >
> >> : > >
> >> : > >Aratzio wrote:
> >> : > >>
> >> : > >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
> >> : > >> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
> >> : > >>
> >> : > >> >
> >> : > >> >
> >> : > >> >Hoofprints wrote:
> >> : > >> >>
> >> : > >> >> Aratzio wrote:
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> : > >> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> : > >> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
> >> : > >> >> > >
> >> : > >> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> : > >> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> : > >> >> > >>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> : > >> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
> >> : > >> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>Ah
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>Yet another
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>anything you write.
> >> : > >> >> > >>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
> >> : > >> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
> >> : > >> >> > >
> >> : > >> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
> >> : > >> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
> >> : > >> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
> >> : > >> >> > >****'s sake.
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
> >> : > >> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > >
> >> : > >> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
> >> : > >> >> > >>> sigh
> >> : > >> >> > >
> >> : > >> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
> >> : > >> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
> >> : > >> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
> >> : > >> >>
> >> : > >> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
> >> : > >> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
> >> : > >> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
> >> : > >> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
> >> : > >> >> right and also their faces.
> >> : > >> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
> >> : > >> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
> >> : > >> >> more bughousers.
> >> : > >> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
> >> : > >> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
> >> : > >> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
> >> : > >> >> 1973.
> >> : > >> >> What a surprise that was.
> >> : > >> >
> >> : > >> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
> >> : > >> >techs use the same approach.
> >> : > >> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
> >> : > >> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
> >> : > >> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
> >> : > >> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
> >> : > >> >information that gets passed along.]
> >> : > >> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
> >> : > >> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
> >> : > >> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
> >> : > >> >government funding etc.
> >> : > >> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
> >> : > >> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
> >> : > >> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
> >> : > >> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
> >> : > >> >living had to send her back to her home.
> >> : > >> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
> >> : > >>
> >> : > >> Like I said,
> >> : > >> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
> >> : > >> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
> >> : > >>
> >> : > >> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
> >> : > >
> >> : > >Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
> >> : > >You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
> >> : > >piece of cake.
> >> : > >The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
> >> : > >back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
> >> : > >posted to SPP years ago.
> >> : > >She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
> >> : > >likes BDSM......
> >> : >
> >> : > More fantasy.
> >> : >
> >> : > But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.
> >> :
> >> : It has already been shown that Kali has had contact with 2 Steps out of
> >> : Usenet.
> >>
> >> Where? By whom?
> >
> >Liar..... You were shown to be a liar about filing bankruptcy you have
> >absolutely no integrity whatsoever, I would hate to think of the number
> >of times you have lied to your professors in order to get your Ph.D.
> >How many papers did you turn in that contained lies to support you
> >premises so you could gain an A?
>
> Always good to change the subject instead of answer her request for
> proof of your acrimonoius claims.
Where do you or she even think that you deserve an answer?
By WHOSE AUTHORITY Do you even ASK???
Does she now think she is a Law Judge?
Are WE in a CT. of Law?
Nope...
get help for that ego problem you have, K?
>
> I think the real liar just stood up.
>
> >>
> >> : How do I know this to be the truth?
> >> : The same way that I find so funny that you knew 'what' area code the
> >> : telephone call came in from?
> >>
> >> Ah, your delusions. The dark place from whence came all the b.s.
> >
> >Projections from some one who wanted to impress Leola in SMDH
> >approximately 2001 or 2002.
>
> Have you ever heard the old mantle "Stop living in the past?"
>
> >IIRC you made some statement to me in a post in SPP something to the
> >effect:
> >So You think you're smarter than Leola.
> >That post was made in response to the fact that Leola was shown to lie
> >about being a licensed Paralegal when in fact there is no such beast
> >or there was no such license during that time period.
> >Leola got booted out of SPP by Two Steps, and had a tizzy fit.
> >She even was exposed by Rick a Forensic Psychologist when he revealed
> >some of her private email exchanges between the two of them.
> >
>
> He sounds like a sleaze. Just your type.
>
> But what does any of this have to do with firehoses?
>
> Jade
>
> >>
> >> : That method of fact finding is 'leaving out information' from a post,
> >> : and then letting you hang yourselves by posting that:
> >> : In your case Jade tweety bird,
> >> : Which state the phone call originated from.
> >>
> >> Now you're just being silly.
> >>
> >> : In Kali's case
> >> : Where she claims that I posted to usenet that 'was in trouble with the
> >> : APA or with her college' when in fact, I had spoken to Two Steps on the
> >> : telephone and said, that "It _might be_ a possibility based on posts
> >> : from Miquel or someone else." I never posted on the internet that she
> >> : was having problems, it was done over the phone in private.
> >>
> >> You're lying. You have posted it several times recently, as if
> >> it were fact.
> >>
> >> : It also means that she is definitely his owner, and he is her pawn.
> >>
> >> Nothing new there.
> >>
> >> : Because she is the reason why Ron Holm came here to investigate and to
> >> : LART me in my private residence because you couldn't get anywhere
> >> : knowing that I was escaping your LARTing because I could turn off the
> >> : computer and 'ignore' you whenever I wanted, while someone living in my
> >> : residence means that you had access to my mind nearly 24/7.
> >>
> >> You said that Holm was hired (by Giarmo) to investigate me , or
> >> have you forgotten?
> >>
> >> : He even mentioned something to the effect': "that correction can be or
> >> : is best done when everyone co-operates and does the same thing at the
> >> : same time." I forget how that conversation went, but the statement was
> >> : made within the first few months he was here. Possibly during the time
> >> : period that I had to answer to my Board.
> >>
> >> Who?
> >>
> >> : Linda is right on about her statements regarding LART procedures which
> >> : gained her friend curio a trip to the bughouse in San Bernadino.
> >>
> >> Linda is a delusional nut case.
> >>
> >> You just like to believe anything anyone tells you about people
> >> you don't like on Usenet.
> >>
> >> : >
> >> : > Jade
> >> :
> >> Kali
> >> --
> >> "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
> >> research, would it?"
> >> - Albert Einstein
>
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:02:34 -0700, Hoofprints
> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Kali wrote:
> >>
> >> In <4717BA10.478E67CF@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
> >> equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
> >> :
> >> :
> >> : Daedalus wrote:
> >> : >
> >> : > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:40:39 -0700, Hoofprints
> >> : > <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> : >
> >> : > >
> >> : > >
> >> : > >Aratzio wrote:
> >> : > >>
> >> : > >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:23:48 -0700, in alt.aratzio, Hoofprints
> >> : > >> <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> bloviated:
> >> : > >>
> >> : > >> >
> >> : > >> >
> >> : > >> >Hoofprints wrote:
> >> : > >> >>
> >> : > >> >> Aratzio wrote:
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:20:25 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> : > >> >> > Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:08 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> : > >> >> > >in Message id: <lpg9h3lq7mk3hqe3tofcccuimqmnnt77vk@4ax.com>:
> >> : > >> >> > >
> >> : > >> >> > >>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:17:33 -0400, in alt.aratzio, Santa's Little
> >> : > >> >> > >>Helper <none@all.null> bloviated:
> >> : > >> >> > >>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:22:36 GMT Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >> : > >> >> > >>>in Message id: <50j7h3tbkmc96g0fb4b2rbi843f8a22d2n@4ax.com>:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:52 +0100, in alt.usenet.kooks, Timmay!
> >> : > >> >> > >>>><timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> bloviated:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Timmay! <timmay@hell-flame-wars.net> got double secret probation for writing:
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>My only failure thus far is to get you to answer those salient points,
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Laverne. I've misjudged how wide that yellow streak is up your back.
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Says the boy who ran and hid for 4 days while he gathered his courage
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>>to post again.
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>>Much as I would like to kick your stupid behind
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>>Ah
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>>Yet another
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>Was there a reason for you to continue? There is nothing new in
> >> : > >> >> > >>>>anything you write.
> >> : > >> >> > >>>
> >> : > >> >> > >>>Perhaps if you'd take a moment and sack-up enough to answer the original
> >> : > >> >> > >>>517 line post in question, things might move along a bit quicker?
> >> : > >> >> > >
> >> : > >> >> > >Well? Can't you see that this is all YOUR fault, you side-stepping
> >> : > >> >> > >chickenshit? Stop being a jellyfish for once in your miserable life and
> >> : > >> >> > >answer the post in question; THEN maybe things would move along, for
> >> : > >> >> > >****'s sake.
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > Well, of course it is all my fault, it is a usenet requirement that is
> >> : > >> >> > is "ALL RATZ's FAULT!".
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > It would just be wrong it it were not, I am a ****head.
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > >
> >> : > >> >> > >>>Oh, for the days when tards were maintained in small cages and fed slop.
> >> : > >> >> > >>> sigh
> >> : > >> >> > >
> >> : > >> >> > >And a fire hose was used for the weekly shower. Oh yeah!
> >> : > >> >> >
> >> : > >> >> > RUH ROH, Hoofy will be along shortly for her "Phones are a
> >> : > >> >> > constitutional right & you threathened me with a fire hose" rant.
> >> : > >> >> > (SPP added for proper x-post)
> >> : > >> >>
> >> : > >> >> If you are speaking of how some State Hospital systems chose to 'bathe'
> >> : > >> >> [sic] their charges, then you have 'once' again barked up the wrong
> >> : > >> >> tree. I used Orff to teach patients to bathe themselves and in the
> >> : > >> >> process learn their arms from their legs whether they were left or
> >> : > >> >> right and also their faces.
> >> : > >> >> I do know that some of these practices exist, but they exist at State
> >> : > >> >> Hospitals that are over 100 years old and where bughousers breed even
> >> : > >> >> more bughousers.
> >> : > >> >> After returning to Fairview in 1978 after 2 and a half years working at
> >> : > >> >> Sonoma, I was surprised when one of my old clients walked up to me and
> >> : > >> >> began singing the old Orff Schulwerk song I had taught her back in
> >> : > >> >> 1973.
> >> : > >> >> What a surprise that was.
> >> : > >> >
> >> : > >> >PS: Ratz, NOT all State Hospitals are created equal and not all Psych
> >> : > >> >techs use the same approach.
> >> : > >> >In fact, I have never seen a fire hose used to bathe a client, but the
> >> : > >> >showers back then were large, much like those found in high school
> >> : > >> >gymnasiums and held more then one person. [I do know about the rumors
> >> : > >> >however, because much like the Penal System there is an underground of
> >> : > >> >information that gets passed along.]
> >> : > >> >So while one psych tech can bathe many clients or even toilet them using
> >> : > >> >well over 60 toilets in the bathrooms, JCAH changed all that when they
> >> : > >> >set standards in their manuals. Lots of things have changed due to
> >> : > >> >government funding etc.
> >> : > >> >I do not agree however that placing clients into community care is a
> >> : > >> >always a positive thing, as one of the clients at Fairview was released
> >> : > >> >and wanted to come back into that community setting. In order to achieve
> >> : > >> >this, she began banging her head so the community home where she was
> >> : > >> >living had to send her back to her home.
> >> : > >> >Prior to that, her behavior problems were aggression, not self abuse.
> >> : > >>
> >> : > >> Like I said,
> >> : > >> "Hoofy will be along shortly for her 'Phones are a constitutional
> >> : > >> right & you threathened me with a fire hose' rant."
> >> : > >>
> >> : > >> Not that I actually read any of that screed.
> >> : > >
> >> : > >Of course YOU DIDN'T Read my Screed......
> >> : > >You think the 'good ole days' were a piece of cake and they were not a
> >> : > >piece of cake.
> >> : > >The fact is that I emailed JCAH years ago and they sent me an email
> >> : > >back which clearly found that Kali's assertions were WRONG. It was
> >> : > >posted to SPP years ago.
> >> : > >She isn't anything but a narcissistic boob with a 'mean streak' and who
> >> : > >likes BDSM......
> >> : >
> >> : > More fantasy.
> >> : >
> >> : > But you like loser Two Steps licking your elbows.
> >> :
> >> : It has already been shown that Kali has had contact with 2 Steps out of
> >> : Usenet.
> >>
> >> Where? By whom?
> >
> >Liar..... You were shown to be a liar about filing bankruptcy you have
> >absolutely no integrity whatsoever, I would hate to think of the number
> >of times you have lied to your professors in order to get your Ph.D.
> >How many papers did you turn in that contained lies to support you
> >premises so you could gain an A?
>
> Always good to change the subject instead of answer her request for
> proof of your acrimonoius claims.
Where do you or she even think that you deserve an answer?
By WHOSE AUTHORITY Do you even ASK???
Does she now think she is a Law Judge?
Are WE in a CT. of Law?
Nope...
get help for that ego problem you have, K?
>
> I think the real liar just stood up.
>
> >>
> >> : How do I know this to be the truth?
> >> : The same way that I find so funny that you knew 'what' area code the
> >> : telephone call came in from?
> >>
> >> Ah, your delusions. The dark place from whence came all the b.s.
> >
> >Projections from some one who wanted to impress Leola in SMDH
> >approximately 2001 or 2002.
>
> Have you ever heard the old mantle "Stop living in the past?"
>
> >IIRC you made some statement to me in a post in SPP something to the
> >effect:
> >So You think you're smarter than Leola.
> >That post was made in response to the fact that Leola was shown to lie
> >about being a licensed Paralegal when in fact there is no such beast
> >or there was no such license during that time period.
> >Leola got booted out of SPP by Two Steps, and had a tizzy fit.
> >She even was exposed by Rick a Forensic Psychologist when he revealed
> >some of her private email exchanges between the two of them.
> >
>
> He sounds like a sleaze. Just your type.
>
> But what does any of this have to do with firehoses?
>
> Jade
>
> >>
> >> : That method of fact finding is 'leaving out information' from a post,
> >> : and then letting you hang yourselves by posting that:
> >> : In your case Jade tweety bird,
> >> : Which state the phone call originated from.
> >>
> >> Now you're just being silly.
> >>
> >> : In Kali's case
> >> : Where she claims that I posted to usenet that 'was in trouble with the
> >> : APA or with her college' when in fact, I had spoken to Two Steps on the
> >> : telephone and said, that "It _might be_ a possibility based on posts
> >> : from Miquel or someone else." I never posted on the internet that she
> >> : was having problems, it was done over the phone in private.
> >>
> >> You're lying. You have posted it several times recently, as if
> >> it were fact.
> >>
> >> : It also means that she is definitely his owner, and he is her pawn.
> >>
> >> Nothing new there.
> >>
> >> : Because she is the reason why Ron Holm came here to investigate and to
> >> : LART me in my private residence because you couldn't get anywhere
> >> : knowing that I was escaping your LARTing because I could turn off the
> >> : computer and 'ignore' you whenever I wanted, while someone living in my
> >> : residence means that you had access to my mind nearly 24/7.
> >>
> >> You said that Holm was hired (by Giarmo) to investigate me , or
> >> have you forgotten?
> >>
> >> : He even mentioned something to the effect': "that correction can be or
> >> : is best done when everyone co-operates and does the same thing at the
> >> : same time." I forget how that conversation went, but the statement was
> >> : made within the first few months he was here. Possibly during the time
> >> : period that I had to answer to my Board.
> >>
> >> Who?
> >>
> >> : Linda is right on about her statements regarding LART procedures which
> >> : gained her friend curio a trip to the bughouse in San Bernadino.
> >>
> >> Linda is a delusional nut case.
> >>
> >> You just like to believe anything anyone tells you about people
> >> you don't like on Usenet.
> >>
> >> : >
> >> : > Jade
> >> :
> >> Kali
> >> --
> >> "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
> >> research, would it?"
> >> - Albert Einstein