WHY DO CHRISTIANS LISTEN TO CAVE DWELLERS AND GOAT ****ERS ?

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there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY PIXIE
presented by the christian nuts.

the only thing they have is the bullshit ramblings from some book that was
buried in the sand for a few thousand years and was written by some
superstitious cave dwellers and goat ****ers.

now if this god asshole was ALL-POWERFUL as these christian retards say, you
would think that there would be a slightly more reliable source of the sky
pixie god's existence than the bullshit ramblings of some superstitious cave
dwellers and goat ****ers wouldn't you?
 
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:

>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY PIXIE
>presented by the christian nuts.


It's called eye witnesses.


duke, American-American

"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
 
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>
>>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>PIXIE
>>presented by the christian nuts.

>
> It's called eye witnesses.


eyewitness of superstitious cave dwellers and goat ****ers from a couple of
thousand years ago.

try again.

you're not going to suggest that ernest angley or benny hinn were really
healing people are you? if so, why didn't they heal amputees? what does the
christian god have against amputees?

> duke, brainwashed christian retard
 
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>
>>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>PIXIE
>>presented by the christian nuts.

>
> It's called eye witnesses.



Can we interview one of these witnesses?


--
Andrew W.

Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.

You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda

Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm

The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm

Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/

Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
 
"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>
>>>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>>PIXIE
>>>presented by the christian nuts.

>>
>> It's called eye witnesses.

>
>
> Can we interview one of these witnesses?


good question, now we're waiting on duke's usual backpedalling on why there
isn't any real; PROOF of this great miracle and why this so-called
eyewitness of his is unavailable
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:05:40 +1100, Andrew W wrote:

> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>
>>>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>>PIXIE
>>>presented by the christian nuts.

>>
>> It's called eye witnesses.

>
>
> Can we interview one of these witnesses?


As long as we are allowed to interview an eye witness to Julius Caesar.
 
alt wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:05:40 +1100, Andrew W wrote:
>
>> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>>> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>>> PIXIE
>>>> presented by the christian nuts.
>>> It's called eye witnesses.

>>
>> Can we interview one of these witnesses?

>
> As long as we are allowed to interview an eye witness to Julius Caesar.


A MAJOR difference here, though, is that there are no extraordinary
claims regarding Julius Caesar. Extraordinary claims (such as those
claims made about Jesus) require extraordinary evidence. An eyewitness
account is not extraordinary. Besides, we DO NOT HAVE eyewitness
accounts of the life of Jesus. The gospels were written long after the
supposed time of the crucifixion and simply CANNOT be taken as
eyewitness accounts. In a court of law they would simply be dismissed as
hearsay.
If God came to earth in the flesh and sacrificed himself to himself to
save all of mankind (which is another subject entirely) why on earth is
there such feeble evidence of such an occurrence? It seems that giving
mankind sufficient evidence would be a far lesser challenge than the
whole sacrifice business in itself.

BF
 
duke wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>
> >there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY PIXIE
> >presented by the christian nuts.

>
> It's called eye witnesses.....


...only by people wearing blinkers recalling the lies crammed into them as an
innocent child.

It is called Brainwashing and for the 'under twelve years of age' should be
criminalised.

[see what a mess it made of you Dook]

>
>
> duke, American-American
>
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
>
 
Andrew W wrote:

> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
> > <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
> >
> >>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
> >>PIXIE
> >>presented by the christian nuts.

> >
> > It's called eye witnesses.

>
> Can we interview one of these witnesses?


They are all conveniently dead

>
>
> --
> Andrew W.
>
> Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
> naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
> and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
> messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.
>
> You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda
>
> Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
> guides, earth changes.
> http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm
>
> The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
> Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
>
> Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
> http://www.acim.org/
>
> Religion Exposed!
> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
 
Bob Frapples wrote:

> alt wrote:
> > On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:05:40 +1100, Andrew W wrote:
> >
> >> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
> >>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
> >>> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
> >>>> PIXIE
> >>>> presented by the christian nuts.
> >>> It's called eye witnesses.
> >>
> >> Can we interview one of these witnesses?

> >
> > As long as we are allowed to interview an eye witness to Julius Caesar.

>
> A MAJOR difference here, though, is that there are no extraordinary
> claims regarding Julius Caesar. Extraordinary claims (such as those
> claims made about Jesus) require extraordinary evidence. An eyewitness
> account is not extraordinary. Besides, we DO NOT HAVE eyewitness
> accounts of the life of Jesus. The gospels were written long after the
> supposed time of the crucifixion and simply CANNOT be taken as
> eyewitness accounts. In a court of law they would simply be dismissed as
> hearsay.


Or, wasting The Court's time

>
> If God came to earth in the flesh and sacrificed himself to himself to
> save all of mankind (which is another subject entirely) why on earth is
> there such feeble evidence of such an occurrence? It seems that giving
> mankind sufficient evidence would be a far lesser challenge than the
> whole sacrifice business in itself.


Absolutely

>
>
> BF
 
On 1 Jan 2008 22:14:03 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:

>
>
>Andrew W wrote:
>
>> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>> > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>> > <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>> >>PIXIE
>> >>presented by the christian nuts.
>> >
>> > It's called eye witnesses.

>>
>> Can we interview one of these witnesses?

>
>They are all conveniently dead


Not quite. All Christians are his witnesses also.
 
"Bob Frapples" <bob@frapples.com> wrote in message
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> alt wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:05:40 +1100, Andrew W wrote:
>>
>>> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>>>> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>>>> PIXIE
>>>>> presented by the christian nuts.
>>>> It's called eye witnesses.
>>>
>>> Can we interview one of these witnesses?

>>
>> As long as we are allowed to interview an eye witness to Julius Caesar.

>
> A MAJOR difference here, though, is that there are no extraordinary claims
> regarding Julius Caesar. Extraordinary claims (such as those claims made
> about Jesus) require extraordinary evidence. An eyewitness account is not
> extraordinary.


That's right. Its not extraordinary in itself. We have eyewitness accounts
of current day celebrities, yet we do not have accurate transcripts of
many of the things they say (much worse during ancient times when nothing
was written down until much later). More, we don't know exactly what people
meant when they said them. That's why there are so many silly rumours going
around about people in any time. Meaning is everything, and the meaning of
many words and verses from Aramaic and Hebrew scrolls are still not known
today, yet believers make a big song and dance about very specific claims.

> Besides, we DO NOT HAVE eyewitness accounts of the life of Jesus. The
> gospels were written long after the supposed time of the crucifixion and
> simply CANNOT be taken as eyewitness accounts. In a court of law they
> would simply be dismissed as hearsay.
> If God came to earth in the flesh and sacrificed himself to himself to
> save all of mankind (which is another subject entirely) why on earth is
> there such feeble evidence of such an occurrence? It seems that giving
> mankind sufficient evidence would be a far lesser challenge than the whole
> sacrifice business in itself.


Too hard for the Christian God so he forces us to rely on other frail humans
for ALL our information.

>
> BF



--
Andrew W.

Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.

You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda

Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm

The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm

Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/

Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
 
"Feng" <Feng@earth.com> wrote in message
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> On 1 Jan 2008 22:14:03 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Andrew W wrote:
>>
>>> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>>> > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>>> > <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>> >>PIXIE
>>> >>presented by the christian nuts.
>>> >
>>> > It's called eye witnesses.
>>>
>>> Can we interview one of these witnesses?

>>
>>They are all conveniently dead

>
> Not quite. All Christians are his witnesses also.



Obviously you Christians have a different meaning for the word 'witness'.
Simply announcing oneself to be a Christian automatically makes one a
witness. Correct?
One of the signs of a sect/cult is they make up new meanings and definitions
for certain words in the English language (as well as make up their own
words in some cases e.g. sin).

--
Andrew W.

Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.

You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda

Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm

The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm

Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/

Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
 
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:05:40 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:

>"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>
>>>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>>PIXIE
>>>presented by the christian nuts.

>>
>> It's called eye witnesses.

>
>
>Can we interview one of these witnesses?


You ask for a witness, yet you take a woman's word for it who
claims to have spoken to Jesus Christ in the 60's, and now follow
her newly designed religion. Please stop being a hypocrite.

gabriel
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:22:31 GMT, Bob Frapples <bob@frapples.com>
wrote:

>alt wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:05:40 +1100, Andrew W wrote:
>>
>>> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>>>> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>>>> PIXIE
>>>>> presented by the christian nuts.
>>>> It's called eye witnesses.
>>>
>>> Can we interview one of these witnesses?

>>
>> As long as we are allowed to interview an eye witness to Julius Caesar.

>
>A MAJOR difference here, though, is that there are no extraordinary
>claims regarding Julius Caesar. Extraordinary claims (such as those
>claims made about Jesus) require extraordinary evidence.


That's not the point. The point is the question was asked to
speak to a witness. Those witnesses are no more with us today
than witnesses who spoke with Julius Caesar.

Now, if you're after other evidence, then so be it. But his
rebuttal stands on the ridiculousness of asking to speak to those
witnesses.

Although now that I think about it, talk to Andrew W -- he
follows a woman's religion that spoke with Jesus Christ in the
60's. Not sure if she's still alive, but maybe Andrew W could set
you up with an interview?

In the meantime, if you're after extraordinary evidence, it's
been around you all the time: life, intelligence, consciousness,
conscience, sight, reproduction, laws of nature, millions of
distinct species, the planets, orbits, perfectly sustained
conditions for life here on earth to even be possible, the sun,
and the list goes on. Those are all extraordinary things, and
they point to the extraordinary creator The Lord our God!

Romans 1:18-23 KJVR
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in
unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in
them; for God hath showed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the
world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are
made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are
without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not
as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their
imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an
image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted
beasts, and creeping things.

Glory to God in the highest!

gabriel

>An eyewitness
>account is not extraordinary. Besides, we DO NOT HAVE eyewitness
>accounts of the life of Jesus. The gospels were written long after the
>supposed time of the crucifixion and simply CANNOT be taken as
>eyewitness accounts. In a court of law they would simply be dismissed as
>hearsay.
>If God came to earth in the flesh and sacrificed himself to himself to
>save all of mankind (which is another subject entirely) why on earth is
>there such feeble evidence of such an occurrence? It seems that giving
>mankind sufficient evidence would be a far lesser challenge than the
>whole sacrifice business in itself.
>
>BF
 
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:14:47 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:

>"Feng" <Feng@earth.com> wrote in message
>news:le5mn399ltnbcj53k4qcdhfogvpv52gbqk@4ax.com...
>> On 1 Jan 2008 22:14:03 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Andrew W wrote:
>>>
>>>> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>>>> > <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>>> >>PIXIE
>>>> >>presented by the christian nuts.
>>>> >
>>>> > It's called eye witnesses.
>>>>
>>>> Can we interview one of these witnesses?
>>>
>>>They are all conveniently dead

>>
>> Not quite. All Christians are his witnesses also.

>
>
>Obviously you Christians have a different meaning for the word 'witness'.
>Simply announcing oneself to be a Christian automatically makes one a
>witness. Correct?


No. His witnesses are people who have experienced his truth by
practicing his teaching. They witness for him based on the truth they
learned in life. Their testimony is not about their belief. Their
testimony is about what they have learned and experienced in real life
because of their belief in Jesus Christ. It does not have be miracle.
It does not have to be great success. It just has to be ordinary life
experience that is going to touch every good heart.

>One of the signs of a sect/cult is they make up new meanings and definitions
>for certain words in the English language (as well as make up their own
>words in some cases e.g. sin).


How am I doing?

:)
 
"Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4m9mn3915vegf3j2askte8c5hes2kbsjid@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:05:40 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
>>"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>>> <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
>>>>PIXIE
>>>>presented by the christian nuts.
>>>
>>> It's called eye witnesses.

>>
>>
>>Can we interview one of these witnesses?

>
> You ask for a witness, yet you take a woman's word for it who
> claims to have spoken to Jesus Christ in the 60's, and now follow
> her newly designed religion. Please stop being a hypocrite.


Is this your best rebuke? I follow one woman's religion, yeah right.
Whatever.
This rebuke is getting old, Rafael, er, I mean Gabriel.
I think I'll wait a few days in case you think of a new and better one.

>
> gabriel



--
Andrew W.

Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.

You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda

Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm

The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm

Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/

Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
 
"Feng" <Feng@earth.com> wrote in message
news:pm9mn3tsjkhj0dtursibp1vdifeputdsc2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:14:47 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
>>"Feng" <Feng@earth.com> wrote in message
>>news:le5mn399ltnbcj53k4qcdhfogvpv52gbqk@4ax.com...
>>> On 1 Jan 2008 22:14:03 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Andrew W wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
>>>>> > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
>>>>> > <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN
>>>>> >>SKY
>>>>> >>PIXIE
>>>>> >>presented by the christian nuts.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It's called eye witnesses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we interview one of these witnesses?
>>>>
>>>>They are all conveniently dead
>>>
>>> Not quite. All Christians are his witnesses also.

>>
>>
>>Obviously you Christians have a different meaning for the word 'witness'.
>>Simply announcing oneself to be a Christian automatically makes one a
>>witness. Correct?

>
> No. His witnesses are people who have experienced his truth by
> practicing his teaching.


And how do you know when you've successfully completed this important step?
How do you gauge what is "his truth" after 2000 years as opposed to what is
not his truth?
Does he come and tell you? Or do you just feel some warm and fuzzy feelings
and perhaps experience some amazing synchronicities (miracles) in your life,
which by the way sometimes also non-Christians and even atheists do?
How do you explain the thousands of Christian sects and denomination who can
never quite agree on exactly what God wants and how to get saved? They all
claim what you and others here are claiming.

> They witness for him based on the truth they
> learned in life.


Everyone has their own take on the truth in their lives. Everyone has their
own path. That is free will.
No one has ever been able to show that their truth/path is any Godlier than
anyone else's.
Its a personal thing.

> Their testimony is not about their belief. Their
> testimony is about what they have learned and experienced in real life
> because of their belief in Jesus Christ.


Everyone's experiences about Jesus Christ will be different because everyone
has a slightly different take on what Christ is all about. Are they all
correct? Does it matter? Hell yeah. How many different versions of truth
about Christ are there?

> It does not have be miracle.


A miracle to a religious person is often a fairly normal occurrence to one
who has a better understanding of metaphysics.

> It does not have to be great success. It just has to be ordinary life
> experience that is going to touch every good heart.


Countless Christians preachers (and regular Christians) have claimed that
they believed they have experienced God's truth through fantastic
happenings, but we all know what happened to many of them. The TV
evangelists are the most obvious examples.
When a religious believer gets warm and fuzzies, they get exited and swear
up and down that they have been shown the truth.
But have they? Mostly No. They all have their own versions of the truth, and
God doesn't seem to care either way, even when they misuse what he allegedly
gave them.
What I'm saying is that Christians are trusting and relying on a magical
process which they've each cherry picked from their Bible and they can't see
that its all over the shop (10,000-20,000 discordant Christian sects and
denominations and still counting).

>
>>One of the signs of a sect/cult is they make up new meanings and
>>definitions
>>for certain words in the English language (as well as make up their own
>>words in some cases e.g. sin).

>
> How am I doing?
>
> :)


Hmm. :)


--
Andrew W.

Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.

You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda

Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm

The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm

Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/

Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
 
Feng wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:14:47 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
> >"Feng" <Feng@earth.com> wrote in message
> >news:le5mn399ltnbcj53k4qcdhfogvpv52gbqk@4ax.com...
> >> On 1 Jan 2008 22:14:03 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Andrew W wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:d4gln35dmfesegiiu2pmnkn7pog8n1metv@4ax.com...
> >>>> > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
> >>>> > <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>there has been NO OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN SKY
> >>>> >>PIXIE
> >>>> >>presented by the christian nuts.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > It's called eye witnesses.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we interview one of these witnesses?
> >>>
> >>>They are all conveniently dead
> >>
> >> Not quite. All Christians are his witnesses also.

> >
> >
> >Obviously you Christians have a different meaning for the word 'witness'.
> >Simply announcing oneself to be a Christian automatically makes one a
> >witness. Correct?

>
> No. His witnesses are people who have experienced his truth by
> practicing his teaching.


Which is, of course, a thumping great lie, nobody experiences anything about
gods, all they experience is mass hysteria

> They witness for him based on the truth they
> learned in life.


See above

> Their testimony is not about their belief. Their
> testimony is about what they have learned and experienced in real life
> because of their belief in Jesus Christ. It does not have be miracle.
> It does not have to be great success. It just has to be ordinary life
> experience that is going to touch every good heart.


Yup - like I said - Mass Hysteria

>
>
> >One of the signs of a sect/cult is they make up new meanings and definitions
> >for certain words in the English language (as well as make up their own
> >words in some cases e.g. sin).

>
> How am I doing?


Not too good.

>
>
> :)
 
On 2 Jan 2008 03:09:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:

>> How am I doing?

>
>Not too good.


Better than I thought, thank you.

:)
 

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