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progressive = liberal = socialist = democrat Based on current American political trends and definitions. The really interesting part is even some Republicans and Libritarians are very progressive, even Bush leaned very progressive in his last two years in office. That's so weird..in Canada...we have the progressive Conservative Party, the Liberal Party, The Dems, and then a bunch of small powerless ones (aka the Green Party). Liberals never win very many seats. In Alberta progressive Conservative always take majority, and Dems are usually the rest of Canada. So in the states all our groups are essentially the same thing? I'm confused on the definitions all the time. The things you say are all one and the same are totally different here. The original liberals were those who wished for limited government. In much of the rest of the world it retains this meaning. In the United States those who favored socialist and/or wealth transfer economic policies basically stole the liberal brand from those who wished for limited government. Thus in the US libertarian (sometimes referred to as classical liberal) became the word for those of us who believe that the government that governs best governs least.

http://www.compassdi...pakistan/24955/ What is the point? Is it that since Christians rights are violated in the ME that it justifies discrimination against Muslims here?

There is no unifird voice among Muslims because as I have stated before a significant percentage of Muslims around the globe support terrorism. Muslims are also, like Christians, divided among differents sects. Once again, there is a civil war within Islam that we need the moderates to win. There is no pope of Islam to provide a unifying voice. The fact is Muslims have the same 1st Amendment and 4th Amendment rights as Christians. It is the bigots, like TJ, who believe biracial children should never be born, who have ran off economically conservative minorities and have all but insured the Republicans will be a permanent minority party within 20 years. I am a Barry Goldwater conservative, not a George Wallace conservative. What made our country is the Constitution. Those who attack it for some perceived temporary gain are scum. More and more, TJ, you prove you have more in commom with Stalin and Hitler than Jefferson and Madison. Unlike liberals and conservatives I support all ten amendments in the Bill of Rpghts.

As always I support the Constitution of the United States of America as the founding fathers intended, A Constitution whose very heart is the concept of individual liberty and limited government. A Constitution that neither big government socialists or big government social conservatives hold dear.

That's key right there. Where are the Leaders of Islam in saying that the actions of the extremists of their religion are wrong? Yeah, some came out after 9/11 but extremists are still terrorizing innocents all over the world. Where is the outcry? Where are the leaders who are brave enough to stand up and say this is wrong, and that it should stop- and willing to do something to make it stop? Last year that abortion doctor Tiller was murdered by a Christian Extremist. Almost instantly Christian leaders all over the country and world spoke out publicly against his actions- declaring his actions not of God. Where is this kind of response when a Muslim straps a bomb to his little brother and send him off to market? Where is this kind of response when a Muslim straps explosives to his underwear and boards a plane? it's non-existent, that's where it is. I suggest googling "Muslims protest terroriam" and you will find many examples which never made the "if it bleeds it leads" media. Just like you do not see peaceful anti-abortion protests in the news. Moderate Muslims are dying across the globe in a fight against fundamentalist Islam. I don't think building this mosque helps them in that fight.

I sometimes have difficulty walking due to your enormous penis as well. Sorry, mistook ya for a sheep.

The guy is a fucking wimp. Look at the gal in my link. Is she handicapped? More like the bionic woman. Tell the wimp that until he gets his permit he needs to park in the same spots as everyone else. Someone needs to kick his one-legged ass.

I sometimes have difficulty walking due to my enormous penis.

The typical voter.

Tell the lazy bum to suck it up: http://today.ucla.edu/portal/ut/amputee-triathlete-101903.aspx?link_page_rss=101903

You must hate America too... welcome to the He Man America Haters Club .. Right eddo? Just trying to prevent a dirty bomb (or worse an active nuke) from going off in a major American city.

He is right about some things but he is wrong in his attempt to weaken the 1st Amendment. There is no justification for government intervention to prevent this mosque from being built. You do not have the right not to be offended. Freedom of religion and property rights are much more important than a mosque which will drop out of the media's attention after the November elections. It is the protections offered individuals (even scumbags) that seperates our nation from the nations of the Middle East. What we have foolishly inserted ourselves into is a civil war between moderate and fundamentalist Islam. It has cost us untold billions of dollars in wars, homeland security, increased costs to businesses (as an example my company, which has hazardous materials on site, started employing security guards after 9/11) and declining stock values. Moderate Islam can better defeat fundamentalist Islam without us providing propaganda to the fundamentalists with our military presence in the ME. What the best outcome for this mosque situation would be is if moderate Muslims control this mosque and loudly speak out against the fundamentalists who wish to keep Muslims in the dark ages. Pat Buchanan March 2000: Our meddling led to 9/11 and our answer to 9/11 was to do more of the same crap that led to the events of 9/11. My Momma always told me "Don't mess with crazy people." In macroeconomics courses I was basically taught there were two mainstream economic theories. Big government Keynesianism, and small government neoclassicism. In political science I was taught two different foreign policy ideologies, The big government Wilsonianism of Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter, GW Bush and Barack Obama or the foreign policy of our founding fathers who emphasized staying out of foreign affairs and entangling alliances and utilizing liberalized trade to foster peace among nations. Ron Paul's comments posted earlier on this thread address this basic foreign policy disagreement.

They forgot to add that investors are finding investment in the US stock market as increasingly risky. My percentage of total assets of domestic stocks in my 401K is at an all time low. I am thinking of increasing it in October hoping for a 1st Tuesday in November boost. Hopefully the Republicans will return to the neo-classical (also called neo-liberal and neo-conservative) economics of Barry Goldwater and reject the Keynesian philosophy that has dominated both parties in the post New Deal era.

He's the self proclaimed Christian "War President".. God told him to strike Al Qaida and Saddam.. so he did.. then he set out on a crusade to "fix" the middle east.. Did ya ever hear Billy Graham speak out against the war or advise his son not to bless the "war president"? No"? Wonder why... _______________________________________________________________________________________ The Dark Side of Rev. Billy Graham A Prince of War Exposed By WILLIAM HUGHES September 27, 2007 "The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same." - Stendhal The propaganda machine of the Evangelical Christian Right will soon be in counter attack mode. One of its darling preachers is about to take it on the proverbial chin. The Rev. Billy Graham, who has created a multimillion dollar media empire, that a Rupert Murdock would envy, is the subject of a shocking expose' due out on Nov. 15, 2007. It's entitled, "The Prince of War: Billy Graham's Crusade for a Wholly Christian Empire." The author is Cecil Bothwell. He hails from Asheville, North Carolina and is an award winning investigative reporter. Bothwell's unflattering portrait of Rev. Graham shows him as a wily warmonger and a lackey for the Establishment. He describes Rev. Graham as a public figure who: "Undermined the Founders' skeptical Deism and sought to rebrand the U.S. as a Christian nation, [and] its armies [as] the rightful instruments of [a] Christian crusade and empire." Bothwell documents that there wasn't a war the U.S. was involved in that Rev. Graham couldn't bless. In fact, he reveals that during the horrific Vietnam conflict, (1959-75), he had urged the then-President, Richard M. Nixon, to bomb North Vietnam! In a 13-page letter, that Rev. Graham had forwarded to the White House in April, 1969, it was stated: "There are tens of thousands of North Vietnamese defectors to bomb and invade the North. Why should all the fighting be in the South?...Especially let them bomb the dikes which could over night destroy the economy of North Vietnam." Mr. Bothwell underscored that such a military action against the dikes, a huge complex of earthworks, would probably "kill a million people and wipe out an already poor nation's agricultural system" He added that the advice in Graham's transmittal "fell on receptive ears. Not longer after, Nixon moved the air war north and west." There is more. After the deadly Kent State U. affair, (May 4, 1970), where four students, who were protesting the Nixon-Henry Kissinger-inspired bombing of Cambodia, were killed by Ohio's National Guard troops, Rev. Graham invited the mostly unbalanced Nixon to address his crusade. It was held in Knoxville, TN. While parents of the students were still grieving and burying their dead, Rev. Graham shamelessly shilled: "All Americans may not agree with the decision a president makes--but he is our president..." Also, every chance Rev. Graham got he ripped into antiwar protesters in this country, while the Vietnam inferno was raging. After a large pro peace demonstration in late 1969, he railed in a letter to then President Lyndon B. Johnson, that the protesters were "radicals and those seeking to overthrow the American way of life." When the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke out, in 1967 against the war in a sermon at the Riverside Church in NYC, Rev. Graham, jumped right in and tagged his criticism as "an affront to the thousands of loyal Negro troops who are in Vietnam." When Dr. King marched for Civil Rights in Selma, Alabama, Rev. Graham was no where to be found. And, after Dr. King was gunned down in Memphis, TN, he couldn't be bothered to attend his funeral either. Rev. Graham made a career out of sucking up to U.S. presidents. Mr. Bothwell wrote how he loved those "endless photo-ops" at the White House, and how he was always, "so eager to shake the hands of...despots, movie stars and industrial kingpins, and to offer grandiose approval of their greatness. Obsequy, more than money, seemed to drive the man--though his pockets were never empty." Fortunately, not all the presidents bought into Rev. Graham's bogus act. One of my favorites, President Harry S. Truman, who was born in Lamar, MO, knew a wide variety of people from political bosses to political hacks. He had a built in b... s... detector. This is what President Truman had to say about the war-loving, camera-mugging preacher: "Graham has gone off the beam. He's...well, I hadn't ought to say this, but he's one of those 'counterfeits' I was telling you about. He claims he's a friend of all the presidents, but he was never a friend of mine when I was president. I just don't go for people like that. All he's interested in is getting his name in the paper." Just before Bush 1 (George H.W. Bush) launched the Persian Gulf War, he invited Rev. Graham to the White House. On Jan. 16, 1991, they both watched the "air war against Iraq on CNN." Later that same evening, he prayed "three times" with the president before he delivered a "televised address to the nation." In a phone call to Bush 1, prior to that White House invite, Rev. Graham had supposedly referred to Saddam Hussein as the "Antichrist." This conversation reportedly helped Bush 1 to resolve "all the moral issues in my mind. It's black and white, good versus evil." Can anyone imagine Jesus watching a war on TV, without weeping aloud for its innocent victims, and demanding that it be stopped immediately? As for the ongoing Iraq War, started by Bush 2 (George W. Bush Jr.), and based on a pack of rotten lies, not one word of criticism has been heard from Rev. Graham. Even after the notorious torture scandal at Abu Ghraib was revealed, the preacher maintained his vow of silence on this country's worst president, a man who deserves impeachment and jail time for violating his oath of office. (1) The country has lost 3,801 of its finest sons and daughters in Iraq and wasted $455 billion there. Another 27,000 U.S. troops have been seriously injured. An estimated one million Iraqis are now dead and about 3.7 million have become refugees. Yet, Rev. Graham, a supposed follower of the "Prince of Peace," has remained mute in his criticism of the outrageous conduct of this president and his insane policies. Why have we rarely heard Rev. Graham preach about Jesus' "Sermon on the Mount?" Why have we rarely, if ever, heard him repeat these words that came directly from the mouth of Christ: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God?" Mr. Bothwell suggests a possible reason why Rev. Graham has failed to speak out about the unjust Iraq War and Bush 2's responsibility for it. At p. 164, he relates how the preacher, in 1985, had supposedly "saved" Bush 2 from perdition. It was at the family compound at Kennebunkport. Bush 2 was drunk and had allegedly "insulted a friend of his mother." It was around the time of Bush 2's 39th birthday. Mr. Bothwell writes: "George senior and Barbara blew up. Words were exchanged along the lines of something having to be done. George senior, then the vice-president, dialed up his friend, Billy Graham, who came to the compound and spent several days with George W. in probing exchanges and walks on the beach. George W. was soon 'born again.' He stopped drinking, attended Bible study and wrestle with issues of fervent faith. A man who was lost was saved." We now know that Bush 2, although he may have stopped hitting the bottle, never did anything in the realm of therapy about his alcoholism problem. He's known by the experts in the field as a "dry drunk," a potential danger to himself and to others. (2) As for Bush 2 being "born again," the question must be asked: "Born again for what?" To kill Iraqis? Invade Iran? Bankrupt our Republic? "Brother" Elliott Nesch, an Evangelical and Peace advocate, believes that pro-War Christians "should repent." (3) I agree with him. The bottom line is clerics, like Rev. Graham, dominate today much of the Religious Right in America. Bothwell's tome deals, however, with a lot more relevant issues than just the preacher's disgusting war addiction. It's an insightful book that I am highly recommending. It's well documented, too, with 274 footnotes. Finally, I wrote last year that "Rev. Graham wasn't a Phil Berrigan." The latter, an ex-priest, was a true apostle of peace, who spent 11 of his 79 years behind bars in the cause of justice. Unlike Rev. Graham, who skipped out of WWII, Berrigan was involved in the Normandy invasion and the "Battle of the Bulge" as a member of the U.S. Army. (4) I'm convinced that unless the Christian community in this country, Protestant and Catholic alike, opens its eyes to what Rev. Graham and his Establishment-serving ilk have been doing "in Christ's name," this nation is headed for a fall that will make the collapse of Rome look like a Sunday picnic. http://www.counterpu...es09272007.html _______________________________________________________________________________________ Hows that eddo? Now.. about those Muslim extremist death figures? Onward Christian soldier.. At least he was not a pedo, like Gandhi.

Law officers are certainly allowed to trail suspects without a warrant. All this does is make it easier and saves on resources. I see no problem with it.

Hugo, do you have a link to this story? http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/muslims_speak_out_against_the.html

Main Entry: grat past of greet She has greeted a lot of people in the past.

The 1st requirement I have in a President is that they understand the Constitution limits government, not the actions of individual citizens. The Great Bimbo fails that test. Another requirement is that they ain't a total moron. The Grat Bimbo fails again.

The 1st: It would be ubconstitutional to prevent a mosque from going up on the false pretense that the old building was of historical value. The constitution even protects scum.

They are both idiots. The Bill of Rights protects you from government. It does not prevent private consequences when you act like an idiot. Yes, legally, I can tell the wife she looks fat in that dress.

Professional pollsters are highly accurate, particularly when you average three or four of them. Obama's approval rating is low but not near as low as Congress ratings. It is a bad time to be a politician. I still think Obama will be tough to beat in 2012.

"When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." Benjamin Franklin

I an guessing some gay group somewhere is asking people to cast their vote or that gays are more likely to click on that topic. I have always looked at Topix as having an even mix of liberals and conservatives.

Have a great one.

GW made tax increases inevitable. The deficits GW and now Obama are running will eventually have to be paid for. How's that hugo? The Wars? Because we did need to take out Sadaam (14 resolutions and unanomus UN vote) and we did need to go to Afganistan. Taking away tax cuts for small business can only hurt the economy and job creation at this point. Some facts, snafu.