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August 09, 2010 Muslims Speak Out Against the Ground Zero Mosque Eileen F. Toplansky In the Ottawa Citizen published on August 7, 2010, two Canadian Muslims write that "Muslims know the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation." Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah, both authors in their own right, sit on the board of the Muslim Canadian Congress. They ponder the "reasoning behind building a mosque at the epicenter of the worst-ever attack on the U.S." and wonder "why its proponents don't built a monument to those who died in the attack." Furthermore, it is not as if there are no Islamic centers of worship in New York City. The Islamic Society-Mid Manhattan is located on 55th Street. On the google map page there is an additional listing of nearby places of Islamic interest. Then there is the Islamic Cultural Center of New York on Third Avenue which caters to the Upper East Side and then there is the Assata Islamic Center at 172 Allen Street in lower Manhattan. Raza and Fatah go on to say that "we Muslims know the idea behind the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel. The proposal has been made in bad faith and in Islamic parlance, such an act is referred to as "Fitna," meaning "mischief-making" that is clearly forbidden in the Koran." From their Islamic perspective, these two authors state that "the Koran commands Muslims to "Be considerate when you debate with the People of the Book" ~ i.e., Jews and Christians. Yet, Raza and Fatah state that to build a mosque at "the place where Muslims killed thousands of New Yorkers is not being considerate or sensitive." Like many others, Raza and Fatah want to know where the funding is coming from. They state that if "Rauf is serious about building bridges, then he could have dedicated space in this so-called community centre to a church and synagogue, but he did not." In fact, both writers "passed on this message to [Rauf] through a mutual Saudi friend, but received no answer." Furthermore, they write that [Rauf] "could have proposed a memorial to the 9/11 dead with a denouncement of the doctrine of armed jihad, but he chose not to." They consider it a "repugnant thought that $100 million" would be spent [in building this New York City mosque] instead of sending it to "dying and needy Muslims in Darfur or Pakistan." "As Muslims," Raza and Fatah, "are dismayed that [their] co-religionists have such little consideration for their fellow citizens and wish to rub salt in their wounds and pretend they are applying a balm to sooth [sic] the pain." While Raza and Fatah "understand [bloomberg's] and other liberals goodwill, they maintain that the "stand is based on ignorance and guilt, and [liberals] will never in their lives have to face the tyranny of Islamism that targets, kills and maims Muslims worldwide, and is using liberalism itself to destroy liberal secular democratic societies from within." One should ponder the last statement carefully. If Americans do not educate themselves about the horrors of sharia law, and begin to consider the dangers of a dual legal system in this country, then, in fact, we will face the genuine tyranny of Islamofasciam that is currently enveloping the world. Sharia law was thwarted in Canada because of the very concerns that Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah discuss but it is critically undermining Great Britain.

GW made tax increases inevitable. The deficits GW and now Obama are running will eventually have to be paid for.

At some point we need to realize both parties suck instead of arguing which is worse. When Bush ran massive deficits in times of prosperity it meant trillion dollar deficits in times of recession were inevitable. The federal budget should be close to balanced over the budget cycle. Bush grew domestic spending at a rapid rate, created a new massive government agency (Homeland Security) and engaged us in an unneeded war. His expansion of our role as the world's policeman is gonna get us nuked someday. It was his expansion of Medicaid whick allowed Obama to claim his healthcare program is paid for. Obama is now running even more massive deficits and projections estimate trillion dollar deficitsfor years to come. That is unsustainable. The misadventure in healthcare will add costs to businesses at a time when businesses need to be expanding. Basically Obama's agenda is basically GW's squared. Until the American people demand we stop mortgaging our children's future we are in great peril. The enemy is us. We engage in partisan bickering while both parties are leading us toward a financial disaster. The debt is approaching 100& of GDP. THe parties just aim for 51% of the vote. We need 51% of the voters to demand responsibility. It is time now to bite the bullet and agree no tax cuts that are not accompanied by cuts in spending and no goodies that ain't paid for.

I am sure ya all be glad to know they will be hiring more IRS agents.

My mother was telling me about when she got her first drivers license. All she did was walk in and pay a quarter and she got her license. The good ole days.

He is just a poor oppressed minority who had a bad day.

We ain't got capitalism. Yeah, I know, some sh t about a republic. You got capitalism in every way shape and form Hugo. If you don't, tell me what you really got. We got what everyone else has a mixed economy with, in our case,the mixture heading toward more government control of the economy. We are really moving toward fascism at a rapid rate where the government does not directly own the means of production but controls it through regulations, taxes, subsidies, tariffs, etc. Add our military industrial complex to the list and what you see is an economy much like fascism under Mussolini and Hitler. Capitalism does not die naturally. It can only be thwarted by tyrants, including tyrannical majorities. It can't be killed. No matter how much the USSR tried to kill it the black market remained. I stop by and purchase produce from a farmer at a roadside stand. That is capitalism untainted by government (providing no income is reported). We had a republic, not much left of it. A republic that was pretty strongly capitalist. A republic is a form of government. Capitalism is the economic system that naturally exists in the absence of government.

We ain't got capitalism.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100801/ap_on_bi_ge/us_wealthy_cut_back

I think the problem we got is over 51% of Americans want both more government and lower taxes. We are electing the ones who promise to pass the costs on to our children.

Nope,they are both like the two Presidents who preceded Lincoln. Our children will revile them both.

Politocians depend upon the voters being ignoramouses. Just give a bill a nice name, such as the Patriot Act, and dare someone to vote against it.

THe big issues are the unfunded SS and medical liabilities compounded by the federal debt just as the baby boomers are hitting retirement age.

I think we live in divisive times and that there are big problems that will require bipartisanship. We need to take some strong medicine in order to get our financial house in order. We are too big for a Greece style bailout.

My 401K I have normally invested 75% domestic stocks. Now I got it at 40%. Only because I am a patriot is it that high. Companies are not willing to invest in an unpredictable tax environment.

Never heard of anyone dying from smoking incense. Many deaths from elective cosmetic surgury. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Parenting/story?id=4520099

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

Alcohol is a recreational drug used responsibly by tens of millions of Americans.

I wonder if anyone was stopped and asked for their permits...I would imagine, none. Now just imagine how that would have played out if they had been non-whites walking down the street with their guns in holsters and around their necks? I bet they would be stopped, told to assume the position and taken to jail...no questions asked. If they were part of an organized parade I believe the result would have been the same.

That will NEVER EVER happen. This idea that liberals (Democrats if you will) are anti 2-a or anti guns is nothing more then a stereotype myth. Yes, you do find SOME liberals (rarely progressives), who are for banning guns and taking away rights, but those on the left who are pro 2-a and gun advocates themselves (myself included) more then make up for the minute number of crybabies who fear guns. As for the video, I think the guys toting the guns are doing more harm for their own party's voters by emphasizing an intimidating stance with their guns. I think it will make the more moderate Republican cringe and say "hey now, we don't need to be making statements with weapons". . . There have been two major Supremee Court decisions in the last couple years on the second amendment. Both decisions have been 5-4 in favor of the idea that the right to bear arms is an individual right, Guess who the four dissenting judges are? Let me make it easy: Supreme Court limits local gun bans Justices rebuff Chicago, which defended ban as reasonable exercise of local powerVideo Supreme Courts calls the shots on guns .Timeline History of the Supreme Court .Advertisement | ad info . updated 6/28/2010 6:53:56 PM ET Share Print Font: +-WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court held Monday that Americans have the right to own a gun for self-defense anywhere they live, expanding the conservative court's embrace of gun rights since John Roberts became chief justice. By a 5-4 vote, the justices cast doubt on handgun bans in the Chicago area, but signaled that some limitations on the Constitution's "right to keep and bear arms" could survive legal challenges. On its busy final day before a three-month recess, the court also ruled that a public law school can legally deny recognition to a Christian student group that won't let gays join, jumped into the nation's charged immigration debate by agreeing to review an employer sanctions law from Arizona and said farewell to Justice John Paul Stevens, who is retiring after more than 34 years. A short distance from the court, the Senate Judiciary Committee began confirmation hearings for Elena Kagan, nominated by President Barack Obama to replace Stevens. In the guns case, Justice Samuel Alito said for the court that the Second Amendment right "applies equally to the federal government and the states." The court was split along familiar ideological lines, with five conservative-moderate justices in favor of gun rights and four liberals opposed. Roberts voted with the majority. Two years ago, the court declared that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess guns, at least for purposes of self-defense in the home.

Barry Goldwater 1964: Things have worsened since then, a large part due to "conservatives" who believe borrowing and spending is more conservative than taxing and spending. Our grandchildren are going to have to feed upon our corpses.

This is true, except for one thing. The current spending is all stimulus. Think of things like just unemployment. Let's say a huge percentage of unemployed fit this Republican meme of not motivated enough to look for work. First of all... 5 applicants for every 1 job available? What, those other 80% are just not trying hard enough??? GET REAL MAN!! So yes, while I agree tax cuts should be accompanied by spending cuts and new domestic programs should be paid for. Not in the event you are trying to stimulate. You can't keep cutting taxes and saying "OK, NO TAKE BACKS"... especially if the situation where too many lives are now dependent on stimulus BECAUSE of taxing too little in the first place and the consequences of it. . . What you do is have built in automatic stabilizers. Basically what this means is as unemployment rises so does the length and total compensation of unemployment benefits. As unemployment shrinks the length and compensation shrinks and over the business cycle the budget is close to being in balance. GW'S HALF TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICITS IN TIMES OF PROSPERITY PAVED THE WAY FOR THE 1.5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT THIS YEAR.

The point is we are only one USSC judge away fron the right to bear arms no longer being an individual right.

Responsible people do not spend their workday blogging on the internet.

You seem to normal to be from Chicago. Everyone else I have met from Chicago is pretty much nuts.