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Nope, they still got him, it just took a little longer.

I must agree, we are not living in a socialist Country, we are living in America and thise too lazy to work hard will be stepped on as those of us who are willing to work hard pass them by. I know many people want to turn America into a socialist Country, and we have many socialist like programs to help the lazy, but it is not the lazy that made America great, and people need to remember that.

They should give the Gator a badge, not kill him, hell, he saved the taxpayers a ton of money, he should get some kind of reward. http://www.local10.com/news/14578234/detail.html

And that is why you are wrong most of the time. There is not one person in the world who knows everything. You can only perceive what you are around and you are not around most of what is and has happened around the world. I keep seeing you time and again make claims, get proven wrong and either attack that person: Or just ignore you were proven wrong and change the subject hoping nobody noticed. The problem you clearly point out is not that the economy is less welcoming to the young but is intead the young is not wanting to put in the hard work that the old put in to succeed. America has had very bad times, just starting out this Country was massively difficult every day. In the last 20 years, I have been sick and missed work exactly 8 days. 3 of those days were from an injury that kept me from walking but I still did basic work from home. It is called work ethic, and younger people seem to not have any these days.

First of all, I never use questionable sources and have never given anyone the reason to doubt the honesty of the news stories I post so questioning my integrity is simply childish. If you were that concerned about the validity of the story I posted, you could have googled it but instead, you prefer to cal my honesty into question. The original source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,309462,00.html It was based on this story: http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1292050,00.html I just did a google searched and found hundreds of blogs and news stories covering this topic so if you had put the same energy checking as you did being negative, you would have answered your own question and not made a useless post.

I wonder what the other guys say about his mom, the teasing he is getting must be interesting.

"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you: Ask what you can do for your country," - John Kennedy

I'm not sure but I hear they have some great dog training camps there........ Colts/Pats, one of the best games I have seen this year, I just wondered what happened to the Colts, they seemed to have their stuff together until the 4th quarter and just gave up, too bad because I thought they were going to win at the rate they were going. The rematch will be interesting I bet.

What should this mother do? Obviously this kid has some serious problems, I get the feeling he is really playing the system.

After that bit of information, I say you are obligated to speak up, this is not about you taking the father's side at this point, this is about the health and wellbeing of a 5 year old child. What you describe is clear evidence that the kid needs help, he is stressed out and confused about the way his mother is acting and until someone takes a stand, this child will continue to suffer and even get worse as the pressure builds. At the very least, this kid needs to get a child counselor to talk to.

I don't think he is truly racist, I believe his own words clearly show he is fearful of a lawsuit or his show being canceled (as is happening now with this recording being released) if the black girl would hear someone using that kind of language. This guy is from the streets and prisons, he is not from the suburbs where saying a swear word is unheard of and he was concerned that their rough edge they maintain would get them in trouble. A true racist would not have gotten married by a black preacher and that is exactly what this man did. Clearly, his son releasing the tape to the press was planned, why even record a conversation with your father? I believe he got his father worked up on the phone with a recorder running with the hopes of doing exactly what he did. I don't believe Dog should lose his way of making a living based on a private conversation where his son obviously set him up but that is for the public to decide. There is going to be an interview on Fox news tonight with the Dog and I am curious what he is going to say.

I would tell him. Most divorces involve an alegation of sexual misconduct made by the woman against the man in one form or another. The woman who killed her husband by shooting him in the back with a shotgun said he abused her and only got 67 days as punnishment for her crime. It is standard practice these days to accuse the man of these kinds of things to get sympathy from the courts and even the general public. I am sure the judge would be interested in hearing that the mother is putting down the father in that way as well, it is harmful to the child to hear that kind of attack being made against his father and could lead to many problems. Horrible that a mother would poison her son and an entire town just to hurt the father. No matter how pissed she is at him, that is wrong.

Say that again brother. I am sick of all the crybaby types all complaining they got a raw deal. Nobody forced them to agree to buy what they could not afford. As has already been discussed here, people can live well and be happy if they just settle for what they can afford but instead they want it all now and refuse to wait, and this is the result many times. "A fool and his money are soon parted." - Thomas Tusser "There's a sucker born every minute...and two to take 'em." - P.T. Barnum

Orders issued by the government, not from thin air, so it is the actions of the Country, not one soldier acting on his own. As with anything, it is intent that makes the difference, if you kill to protect the life of a child, your actions are good, if you kill for the pleasure of killing or other bad reasons, your actions are bad. If you refuse to kill a killer to protect the life of a child, then you are helping the killer, that makes you a killer by proxy. How can one person be so wrong on almost everything about America as you are? The latest studies show that most of the homeless have families but choose to live as homeless, how are we to force people into prisons just because we don't want them on the street? I would be too if we ever did anything of the sort, being as we only help people and not just go around murdering people to take over their land as Iraq has done, we are the good stopping the bad. I am capable of judging the guilty, if your frozen in life to be a victim, fine, I say you have that right, but you don;t have the right to excpet me to stand there like sheep and let bad people kill me or my family, or others in my comminity. And you won't be right. Yes you did say that all soldiers are mindless killers, you are just backpeddling now. All soldiers have free will and never kill blindly. American troops are trained to think above all and to never follow an illegel order. If a soldier follows an illegel order (such as killing in cold blood) he will be severely punnished up to death. You are wrong time and again, your assumptions are all 100% wrong, so that means your conclusions based on your assumptions are also 100% wrong. Being as it was fighting evil that made America possible, it was fighters, not weak pacifists afraid to act who made America possible, you are again wrong, time and time again. Dream world...... Just how do you make the bad people in the world think the way you do? It is easy to get agreement from fellow pacifists but the real world has very bad people in it. Do you offer your naked throat to the killer when he comes? Do you have your children or loved ones do the same? I see in my mirror what made this Country great. A hard working person who supports himself and has served the Country he loves while my oldest child is doing the same. You see in your mirror someone too scared to serve his Country, too scared to do more then talk, too scared to truly live and can only complain about those that give him the chance to life free. Yes, I know to fear people like you.

"Art, like morality, consists of drawing the line somewhere." - G.K. Chesterton

So who invaded Kuait or gassed the kurds, etc....? So you would not kill killers? You would not kill someone trying to kill you or a loved one you would just watch yourself die without lifting a finger? Countries set policy, by policy of the Iran government it is legal to kill homosexuals and many other people like women get stoned to death for many offenses including failure to wear the proper clothing. The government is condoning the actions. so saving an innocent life has no value to people like you? I value the innocent life over the guilty life and given a choice of protecting the innocent by killing the guilty or letting the guilty kill the innocent, I will follow the first course in my life. Again, you are making decisions about things with bad information. Your assumptions and completely wrong ideas are making you produce bad decisions. It is just like your comment that all soldiers are brainwashed killers. Your 100% wrong and refuse to admit it so that means every decision you make with that kind of false information in your head must be wrong itself. I love all people but I fear for the survival of our Country and way of life with people like you spouting lies as if their truth everywhere you go.

That is something else I do not understand, if it was normal for her to do that each morning, she should have driven there without even thinking about it. People tend to have routines and it is difficult to break that routine without taking real effert to break it. I would be curious to see a comparison of the drop off record for the daycare and her work record to see if she would leave her kid in the car other times. Kids being killed by their parents is not just sh t happens, I'm sorry but that is completely disrespectful of life itself. No, your trying to compare two completely seperate issues. In this case, she had to get her child ready for the day, cleaning, dressing, prepering the diaper bag, etc.... Those of us that have raised children can identify with the amount of work you put into getting children ready to go somewhere. Then she had to load the bag and child into the car, again, this takes time and requires much work to get the child settled. At that point, it would take a great deal of negligence to completely forget something you just spent over an hour messing with, mush lees to forget your own child you just spent over an hour on getting ready. Sure they are, all they need to prove is a lapse of judgement, and leaving your child to die in your hot car is a serious lapse in judgement, intentional or not. Because her negligence resulted in the death of an innocent life. If not for her direct actions, this life would still be living instead of being killed by it's mother. Because the child is dead now, not next week. Did the child get any second chances from it's mother? If the innocent life had no breaks, why give the killer of the child breaks? I don't buy that, no matter if she was on a phone or just stressing over bills, she voluntarily took her attention away from her child to the point she killed her child. There is always choice in these situations. There was no outside force that made her leave her child in the hot car. She had a choice, the only one that did not have a choice was the innocent child. Again, you are comparing apples and handgrenades. We are talking about the death of a child from the direct actions of the mother, not a busted window and comparing a lost innocent life to a window is disrespectful of life. There is no such thing as involuntary negligence. There is always a choice, a choice to swing the bat when you don't know what you are doing or a choice to be lazy and not salt your walk (using your examples) is still deciding, there is nothing involuntary about either example. As with anything the law covers, we must look at the seriousness of the crime to determine how we respond. In this case, the direct actions of the mother killed her child, she has the choice to pay attention and not kill her child but she decided that other things were more important to her and caused her child's death. This is not an accident. And death of an innocent child is as serious as it gets. While I do, I see a mother that got distracted by things less important than the life of her child. It was her choice to become distracted, nobody forced her to become distracted so it is not truly an accident, she had a choice, while the child did not have a choice. If you cannot imaging forgetting your child, maybe that is because you are a good parent and she is not. Why is it good people get stuck looking at situations from their eyes and refuse to admit that bad people and parents do not think the way you do? This women is a prime example of being a bad parent, you can never allow yourself to be distracted to the point you cause your child's death. It was forseeable by the mother, that is the point. The only person that had the ability to pay attention to what was important and keep her child safe was the mother. The mother made the choice to be distracted and her child paid the price for it's mother's decision. Punnishing this woman severely sends a message to the many other parents that get diestraced in their daily lives that if they decide to get destracted and cause a death of their children, they will pay for that distraction, not be given a pass. I see this as the next step in abortion, now we have people wanting to make it legal to just let your child die in a hot car like that life has no value. Who speaks for the child? Who protects the child?

As I told another member, I do not feed lazy people's sicknesses, if you could not bother to read everything as we go, I will not keep repeating myself. Learn to pay attention. Where do you get this garbage? You are so wrong it is almost criminal in my mind. I served in the military, you have obviously never done so yourself. You wrong about most of what you say. The differance is mine is the words of the President, while yours is from wackos that have nothing to lose. It is like the 9/11 conspiracy wackos, the only people claiming it was an inside job are people with nothign to lose, see the trend forming? Many times, but I understand that nothing is 100% good or evil so I temper my opinions with reality while you call everything not 100% good as all evil and bash America for everything. Again, I already did. According to you, there is no gay issue in Iran, so being as you attack everything America does while you sit behind your safe computer tossing insults, maybe you need to get off your behind and do instead of just pointing fingers. I say the same to you, you make outlandish claims about things you know nothing about like religion and military training and when those of us that do know about these things call you out for your lies, you bury your head in the sand from the truth and continue with the lies. Just like you lie, several times in this thread alone, why get mad at them for doing whar your doing every few seconds? Yes, politicians lie, but what does that have to do with anything? Name one perfect person. If not, learn to see how percentages of priority govern most decisions.

I did prove it, you just refuse to read and comprehend, that is not my fault. Again, you speak on what you do not understand. I served in the military, you obviously never have. The army does not train people to be blind followers, you are so out of your element when you keep trying to discuss things so far above your head. It was you who claimes Iraq was about oil, not me. I said it was about many complex issues and even provided you with a link to educate yourself, of course you already know everything you care to know and refused to read it. No it is not, you are wearing your "me" glasses and coloring untruths calling them truth like a little kid having a temper tantrum. You misrepresent bible versus you refuse to even try to understand for example. Your intrepretation is wrong, so when you claim them to be truth for you, your truth is lie in reality. Yep, it is disgusting that some Americans do nothign but try to tear things down, back seat driving without a shread of responsibility to back up their mouths and not even trying to lift a finger to fix what they complain about. Why is it you avoid every point that proves you wrong? My abortion example is a good one. Every decision is complex, it is not ever 100% one thing or another for one person and it is the same for world politics.

?We talk on principle but we act on interest.?? - William Savage Landor

Already did You gave yours away for nothing to the anti American agenda. You said the Iraq war was because of oil, that is a lie. But your personal truth is a lie in reality. Again, noting is 100% good or evil, it is the leader that is capable of seeing the percentages that are truly there while the complainers like you are frozen into inactivity because you will wait for that 100% factor and die while you are waiting. Wrong again, every action is complex. A women deciding to get an abortion is assailed with questions of morals, religion, community, financial issues, educational issues, relationship issues, the list goes on and on but you thing something as serious as the war in Iraq is about oil or some other single reason, that shows you to be wrong. Already did.

I find what these people did to attack this father after he already suffered the loss of his son was horrible and I hope they are ruined the way they ruin so many other people when they attack them like this.

No, you are tainted by your own ignorance of fact. You refuse to take context into consideration, that is why you are always wrong. Pure good is only in dream worlds, something reasonable people can understand. Is that why you feel justified to lie so much, just because you believe others are doing it? As I said, a choice between two evils, most of the time, there is no good chioce, only bad and worse choices. And there your wrong, most of the time, the truth is very complex. More lies I see.

I never said that and request you remove that garbage, this is supposed to be direct quotes, not your personal attack pages. Edit That is still not a direct quote. Edit again The part after my quote is still not a quote, also, making up stuff and putting it down as your personal quotes is also kind of not the point of this kind of thread as well.

"When eating a fruit, think of the person who planted the tree." - Vietnamese saying "Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the parent of all others." - Marcus Tullius "If you don't appreciate it, you don't deserve it." - Terry Josephson