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I agree, your videos are a great addition, I usually watch all of them and sometimes get friends to watch them too.

But it being their property, is it not their decision as to if your helping more than your hurting? Their property, their decision.

You don't agree Joe?

It is not for wimps, it is actually a great way to be sure there is nothing unwanted on the computer. When someone brings me a used computer reformatting is always my first step. Sure, all of the things you mention is good, but not for a beginer who does not know what to do once they get access to the drive(s) on the system. Other new errors and problems can show up especially if you mess around with the wrong files. She is letting her little girl use this, making sure it is clean is actually a good idea, there is no telling what might be on the thing. Ren, if you can find the local teenager geek I spoke about before he will also have the stuff on a jumpdrive as Bender (phreak) is talking about and can also be sure there is nothing harmful on the system, if you must do this on your own, I would still say wiping the system clean is the only way a novice can be sure everything harmful has been removed from the system.

Even the more conservative minded Democrats (blue dogs) still see 'social justice' as their real goal, they want the Government to play Robin Hood otherwise they would not be Democrats. But, at the same time they like to live their life of being one of the elite and stay in office too so there is the problem. The many obvious and the much more less ovbious bribes are to ease those jitters of being tossed aside in the next election. Some are thinking special deals will make their States overlook their votes, others are getting promises to help raise money for their campaigns, more are getting promises of new jobs if they lose their elections. The only thing that matters to them is Obama get his victory.

McCain was the only conservative minded person who could have won the election, any vote for anyone else was a vote for Obama. Wishful thinking does not eliminate the fact that we are a two party system "right now". Your either helping one side or your helping the other side. If you refuse to vote for the Conservative that can win, then you have voted for the liberal. And how many things like this healthcare bill gets passed while your standing around with your hands in your pockets complaining? How many activist Judges get appointed to the courts? I made a point to RO in another thread that this is like the speach from Richard Lamm on how to destroy America. It is all about splitting us apart, using any method to have us fighting among ourselves while the liberals are taking control and we do not even notice. The splinter groups are helping the liberal cause, not fighting against it by refusing to stick together on the thinge we can agree on.

I already said I was speaking on the Ron Paul policies, not my own views RO, please try to pay attention, of course I can see that, it was my point, I brought it up before you did. I agree with you, we should scale way back, but Ron Paul does not want to scale back, Ron Paul want an immediate removal of all troops on forsign soil, Ron Paul's inability to see the gray areas is my point. I do not want someone who would be an isolationist, that will cause more harm than good. Again, I agree, go to "win" then get out as fast as possible would be fine most of the time, but sometimes we need to do more as well. Europe owes it's success to the American military being there but America has also had a great deal of trade with Europe that offered a lot of prosperity to America as well. Leaving Europe now completely with a promise to never come back for any reason would cause Europe a lot of instability. Now that may be good too, but our relationship will be very bad if we do this and trade will certainly suffer greatly even if a major war did not get started. If the person you vote for you "KNOW" cannot win then in my mind your really voting for the other side. Don't you think that is what the liberals want? Splinter us apart, make us fight among ourselves then sit back and win the elections because people refuse to vote for who can win under the false claim of "purity"? Your playing their game RO. Did you ever read the speach by Richard Lamm about how to destroy America? The main point was to use multiculturalism to divide people, to pit us against each other..............................Well this is the same thing RO. Divide the various conservative minded people against each other then win and take control by default.

Ren, do you have a relatively older teenager near by? Someone in the 15 to 17 range who is still in school? If you do then ask them if they are or they know a computer guy, I can almost gurantee you they will. One of those guys can take your machine and in a couple hours return it clean, fully updated and protected. Either that or ask around with friends and find someone if you can. While reinstalling is not difficult, it can be confusing at certain points and small errors can show up that are simple to get past but may trip you up if you let it get you frustrated, and that is normal for someone who has never done this stuff before. Now if you are really patient and would like to learn something, then go for it, the most important thing is to select the existing partition when it asks you, you want to overwrite what is there, not create a new partition that will leave the old stuff there. You should see a warning that formatting the partition will erase all data, that is a good thing. Everything else eddo told you is perfect, Dell is a great source for all your drivers and information. It is a good idea to have a second computer around if possible, that way if you get an error you can use the other machine to look it up or to download drivers if your having conflicts for some reason. The ethernet driver is going to be one of the most important because that is how your going to get this machine on the internet to download updates for the OS. I would have that driver if nothing else on a jump drive as the first thing to add because many times the base operating system cannot use a generic driver for that. Good luck Ren, it is not as hard as it seems if you like puzzles and are patient. PS Like eddo said, if this is new for you I would not worry about trying to save any files from the computer, you never know if there might be viruses and stuff in there you also saving and moving. If your on a budget you can send small files in your email to yourself that you want to save but again I would not mess with that, just erase it and start over.

So why did he promise to finish closing off the border? Have you seen that done with this new president? You only see what you want to see, sure McCain is a little softer on this because it is so much a part of life in his home state but if even he is willing to secure the border, than that shows he is moving tword what the people want, you most certainly cannot expect a liberal to close the leaks in the border, they want the votes, why do you think linerals do not want people to show identification to vote? Sure, no insults, lol. I do require someone to be clear on their statements, you many times are not. Now your just trying to justify why you refused to help the the most conservative canidate win and by your direct action to not vote, you actually helped the radical liberal get elected. A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user. ~ Theodore Roosevelt Nobody will ever deprive the American people of the right to vote except the American people themselves and the only way they could do this is by not voting. ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt Women, we might as well be dogs baying the moon as petitioners without the right to vote! ~ Susan B. Anthony Like me Joe? I didn't help Obama get elected, you did by refusing to vote for the most conservative canadate, did you not say the tea parties for you was about getting the most conservative into office? Well McCain was the most conservative at that time and you refused to help him. No, you attrempted to create a false/false answer specifically designed to give you the answer you wanted using a false premise that any vote for someone who is not 100% conservative is just as bad as voting for the two guys you mentioned. Being as you went outside of reality for choices in an American election I would be voting in I did the same thing and while the Democrats are not completely communist, their idealogy is the closes to these two rulers and would be better accepted by the Democrats than the Republicans. No republican would ever let either get through the primary so my answer was the closest to reality your narrow example would allow. My point has been like RO said, the world is made up on shades of gray, I will see that not every canidate will be white or black, I am capable of understanding the shades of gray, you guys will only see black or white, and the idiot part is if you can't get the perfect whilte canadate, you will instead help the other side out of spite. No, you tried to say they were purely conservative, and that is the same thing, but where you mess up is there are pissed off Democrats and Independents who are also creating tea party groups out of frustration that the Government refuses to listen to the people. The movements are not based on one idealogy of political beliefs, it is much, much wider than that. The idea is these elected officials are supposed to be representing us, not themselves.

I was mostly talking about the possitions of Ron Paul, there is no middle ground, no gray area, no part measures, he wants the complete elimination of all troops from bases in other Countries. My point about trade and oil is from how things will unravel "AFTER" Ron Paul withdraws American involvement in the world and turns isolationist. Most of the peace in the middle east is because of America, remember what happened to oil when Iraq invaded Kuait before America stepped in? That was a tiny speck and was ended relatively fast without must turmoil in the region because America was strong enough to contain it. If America refuses to contain things like that you can gurantee things will get out of hand. Anyway, Why is it your capable of seeing shades of gray in one way but your only capable of seeing a perfect pure conservative for voting purposes? I am capable of understanding that I can't always get everything I want and I will accept a 75% conservative that gives me most of what I want in a President than the 100% liberal that will tear down most of the things I hold dear.

No, your wrong on that, he was not pushing amnesty after that, in fact he said many times the voters have voiced their opinions and he would do as they want. He did say we needed some kind of solution but he was talking about guest worker programs where we actually identify who is in America, I support that as do most conservatives. Why were you not surprised Joe? I am sure there is a nice reason why, lol. All men are motivated to pay the bills Joe, I am sure you go out of your way to piss off your bosses right? Of course not, so why expect anything different from a politician? That is the surprising part from the liberals lately, they are completely ignoring the voters when they usually toe the line with them, I guess the prospect of a new monster entitlement is just too much to pass up even if they get fired. Both stalin and mao would be running for the democratic nomination so one would be eliminated leaving one of them against a Republican canidate that I would fully support because that would be my only option, I surely would not waste my vote to help one of them get elected as so many splinter groups who are normally fairly conservative have done recently. Of course I knew that, it was my point, I know a lot more about politics than you do my friend. You didn't even know the tea parties were not about getting pure conservatives in office so your just running with your assumptions again, and doubt my 11 cities if you want, here in Florida we have had more independent tea parties than most States. These parties have been happening for a long time and I have been to a lot of them. Interesting that you fall back on saying I lie instead of admitting you were wrong about the tea party movement, you didn't know there were democrat versions of the tea parties did you? Instead of leaning on trying to take shots at me, it would be easier to just go get informed.

But did France owe us a debt before they helped us? Do you only support doing what is right if there is an obligation? We are friends in the world RO, you can hate me for daring to stand against you but that does not accomplish anything, and neither does trying to pretend like things would have been the same if we had stayed out of WW2. Most of the prosperity in America and Europe was because of our helping in WW2. That was good, but Ron Paul calles everything we have ever done with force bad. I will not support another guy who blames America for things like 9/11. Him and Obama share a lot in common on that point and that is why that meyer idiot loved Paul as well. Hard to have trade when the world is at war. When even a small battle is happening in the world trade declines and if every soldier is removed from every american base as Paul has promised, there would be world war again. The first place to have a big war would be the Muslims eliminating the Jews. Then north korea would be fighting south korea. Russia will go take a few stragglers back under their wing and a general state of chaos will take over....and that is not good for trade. Trade is only possible with peace, and like it or not, peace only exists because of what we do. We are not talking about what you want, we are talking about what Ron Paul has promised and he wants a complete removal as fast as possible. And consider what that would mean at home. Suddenly all those troops comming home without a job. I am sure 300,000+ new people on unemployment would make things better...... The problem is our republic only operates because of trade, we need massive imports to keep us working and if you isolate you will rip our Nation apart. We get about 70% of our oil from imports, how do you propose we survive that loss? At the very least we need to be able to sustain our own energy usage before we isolate. Not really, your just assuming they would but in practice, there is enough animosity to keep them from working together most of the time and as I said before, there will be enough real conservatives working as a buffer between them that they won't really have much of a chance to work together. And the problem is this, McCain would not want to be facing the shots from both sides, he knows that the harder conservatives will be watching him close and any slip will earn him severe attacks. McCain would try very hard to stay true to his conservative promises. If nothing else he has proven to listen to the people, that is more then Bush ever did. Hey, it is me saying a 75% conservative is better than a 100% socialist, I am accepting the shades of gray as a reality and taking what I can get, it is you and a couple other people saying you will only vote for someone who is black or white and you will never accept shades of gray. Take your own advise, accept the shades of gray closer to your own ideas instead of helping the complete opposite of your wants to get elected. So you trust them in one way while they rip America apart in different ways? I will not swap one radical element for another. The liberals are controlled by their radicals and see how crazy they have become? Why would you want to emulate their behaviors just from a different direction? Isolating our Contry will kill about half the jobs and stop all travel because there would be no oil for gas. No products on the shelves because all out products come from over seas, hell the whitehouse is buying new stemware from over seas because nobody in America makes what they want here in America anymore. Most of the banks share ownerships and investments all over the world, you think this last bank collapse was big, let the wars start and see what happens. Then you know what, watch as another civil war starts here because people are starving to death and there is no money exchanges anymore and we have to go back to the barter system because the dollar will be without any value at all. The only thing keeping the USD as strong as it is, is the oil sales, once we isolate ourselves what little trade that is happening will be by the euro (something their trying to do anyway) and suddenly american dollars will be without value for international trade.

eddo is right, you need to strip it down and start from a fresh install, there is no telling what is on that computer and what viruses might be on it. There are several ways to crack the password including a small program I keep on a jumpdrive but all that will do is get you in, you need to stip it down and start over. The computer should have a sticker on the case with your windows key on it, get a xp disk and reinstall the operating system, put an antivirus on it as your first step after that then do your updates. This really is the best thing to do.

Well it is hard to tell people what the details are when they are still making changes and adding stuff like the sweetheart deals to buy votes. I believe Obama is going to try and make a case for ignoring public opinion and doing what he feels is "right" even if the people do not agree with him. They want to do this anyway but I think he is still wondering if he can get away with it. Come November he believes he will be a lame duck no matter what he does so he wants this passed as his legacy.

So you were just pretending not to know? Agree with him, be my guest, but you can't say that it is right to turn our backs on our friends when even our own America would not exist as it is today without the help of friends like France. France gave us the help we needed to obtain our freedom and it is simply self serving to say that we will now withold our help to other people because we want to isolate. Our actions up to now have made us the powerhouse we are today my friend, as Joe points out, our actions made the prosperity that followed possible. If we suddenly emptied out all our bases around the world as Paul wants us to do, there would be a free for all and considering that all foreign oil would stop flowing and the world trade would end, you can get ready to move back to the winderness if someone as radical as Ron Paul takes office. All those things can be accomplished without isolating ourselves from the world, one is not exclusive to the other. But we will get a lot closer to conservative idea with a 75% conservative then we are going to get by turning 175% to the left. I don't know, McCain and Palin are getting a lot of good shots in on Obama lately and he looks to be getting more and more desperate as Palin and McCain are being proven right. There is a lot more to working together than just the three people you mention, most of the stuff Obama is doing is at the insistence of his advisors, Obama was backing down from the healthcare fight and promised to shift gears to jobs until his advisors talked him into taking a hard line and trying to force it. The kinds of people who would be surrounding McCain and Palin would have helped to keep the train on the conservative tracks just like Obama's advisors are keeping Obama on the socialist track. And your just finding excuse after excuse to waste votes and actually help people like Obama get elected. If you do not support who can win, then your actually helping the other side.

Don't turn to insults Joe, that is a show of weakness, we can disagree without going down that road. You point was that Bush put foward a guy who was liberal, or at best middle to liberal, but where have I ever said Bush was a conservative? While McCain helped come up with the illegal amnesty bill he quickly backed off from it once public opinion was against it but Bush did not. That proves that at least McCain will listen to the voice of the people and will change his possitions to what they want. I understood your point but your point was irrelivent, that was then and this is now and you can't live in the past. McCain had made promises he had to keep, unlike the liberals the conservatives do remember promises and will rip him apart if he did not stick to his promises. No matter what he thought of her, she would have been in a possition to push for the things she believed in and no matter what some people say, she is still 99% conservative and a far cry from the pure socialist we now have because people like you will never accept that sometimes you can't always get what you want and you have to accept compromise. Getting 75% of what you wanted to include much better justices would have been a huge win over what we now have. No, I answered the real point, Bush gave up, he accepted he could not get a conservative justice approved and let them control him, I do not believe McCain would have let them do that, just keep putting people before them and let the Congress look the fool for not approving someone just like Bush did with the budgets he refused to sign and the support for the war he demanded and would not back down. If he had taken the same stance on appointments he would have won. Again with insults? McCain has I believe a 82% conservative rating withthe American Conservative Union, most of the non-conservative reputation he has gotten is for a couple big pieces of legislation, not his general outlook or vote record. GW was way more liberal than McCain, at the end of his time in office Bush was kissing every liberal's ass he could find in an attempt to save some face for his presidency. Where I see a drastic difference in McCain is where he will actually listen to his conservative voters....Bush would not. So now your using the same liberal tactics of hugo? Stalin or Mao? You have to say based on a couple small examples suddenly McCain and Palin are that bad? You toss the baby out with the bathwater with that kind of perfection expectation and that is why you will always be more helpful for people like Obama than you will ever be for the conservative movement. The tea party movement is not about who is the perfect conservative in every way, it is more about getting our elected officials to listen to us, I have traveled to 11 different cities to attend seperate tea parties and not one time has a single speaker talked about getting a perfect conservative in office, in fact there are even democratic tea party groups, did you know that? The tea party is not just about conservative or liberal, it is about getting control back over Washington. In fact, old school liberals were the real conservatives in the old days Joe, did you know that? The point is to get people into office that will support common sense approaches to governing, how many people would be up in arms if the healthcare bill was smaller and more common sense? Almost none Joe, peopel are pissed off at the way things are being done, not the people who are doing it. With few exceptions, politicians are lawyers, and what is a lawyer? A person trained and who has perfected the art of telling lies.

And we got Sonia Sotomayor to replace him because Obama was elected, if the splinter groups and the guys sitting out like you had bothered to get behind the Republican we would not have Sonia Sotomayor, we would have gotten a real conservative. I did not like a lot of McCain's past, but he really had to change his direction and having people like Palin surrounding him would have made him much more conservative then Bush ever was, just like the wacko radicals that surround Obama keep Obama pushing these socialist ideas. But if all your getting is radical liberal nominations they can't keep the seat empty forever. Being as your direct actions got Obama elected it seems your the sellout, not me. I voted for a 75% conservative, you voted 175% to the left of me by helping Obama win the election because you could not be bothered to actually cast a vote for as much conservative as was possible to get.

You must be kidding, I always have facts to back myself up but the disturbing thing is you don't know something as basic as this. Even IWS just backed up some of it but you know nothing about Ron Paul's possitions? First of all Ron paul blames America for 9/11, he clearly said American policy caused the muslims to do what they did. Do you really want another "blame America" President? If Bill Maher loves you, you might be a liberal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYDt7kC3Z0 Ron Paul was the only person to refuse to vote for the House Resolution 180, the Darfur Accountability and Divestment Act of 2007. His reason for this was he believe trade should never be used as a barganing tool. I also agree that we need to scale way, way back, but not completely isolate, that is going too far. Ron Paul's montra has always been "trade and talk, but no troops." Well he is looking at the cost now but Ron Paul has been against any kind of force for a very long time. Ron Paul consistently says America should have never gotten involved in any conflict outside our borders. I take him for his word and he says no, there is never a time American troops should leave American soil. He adds about half way into this video that there are always consequences for acting to interveen.........."ALL BAD". So Ron Paul says the results of our actions have all ended with bad. The final part he says "We should stay at home and mind our own business". If that is not clear cut isolationist, what is?

It is supposed to be that Bret guy at 6pm, I have seen him a few times, I mostly like to catch his ending of the show where he has a round table with some other media guys who talk about their opinions of things.

Okay, so now they are talking about "deeming" the bill into law so that the members in the house do not have to actually put their name on a vote for this piece of garbage.....interesting. Obama is supposed to be on the evil FOX news tonight, I am going to watch that and see what he has to say, I wonder how he will defend this new game? If their so ashamed of the bill that they are too scared to actually vote for it, that should be a clue to Obama that they should not do it.

Hard to talk about the founding of America without mentioning God, they are connected. You eliminate one, you eliminate the other.

Well they did vote for Obama, that is a valid point and if your too blinded to see why that is a problem you will not see any other point either. Ron Paul for example promises to withdraw from every agreement in the world like NATO and says he will never support any military action away from American soil for any reason. He forgets that without France and other "FRIENDS" helping America, we would not today be free. I agree we should pull way, way back and force other Countries to help with the many problems we always end up taking point on, but I do not believe completely isolating ourselves from the world is the right thing to do either. Ron Paul is simply the far end of the spectrum just like Pelosi is the far end of the Democrat spectrum. The liberals allow their radicals run their party, I do not think we should be doing the same as the liberals.

And if you can't get perfection, you will have a temper tantrum and refuse to support her or anyone else you see as less than perfect and that decision by you is what got someone like Obama elected. I believe you said in another thread that you did not want to vote for the least evil because their destination was the same but you keep ignoring things like nominating judges, that one thing alone drastically changes the game because while you do not like to vote for a guy who believes in 75% of what you believe, your also not voting for the kinds of Judges that 75% person would put into office and the kinds of damage activist Judges could do to the fabrick of America. Sure, you and Joe can claim your "pure" but your attitudes of only voting for perfection means your doing more harm than good in reality. A wasted vote is a vote for Obama, so everything he produces and every Judge he puts in office is your fault because you were too trapped by your "purity" to accept that something you have to meet someone where in the middle. Sometimes... when you hold out for everything, you walk away with nothing. ~ unknown

Don't be modest Wez, I know my limits, and I cannot compete against you.

Not if your going to join in, we can't compete against a professional.