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Already handled, all of them Again your missing the point, the debate for me is pleasurable, not winning. You can be called the winner and I will still be happy. We don't even have to have a judge, just the agreement to have a pure debate would be perfectly awsome to me. As far as being impartial, it would have to be someone who has never jumped on your bandwagon and unfortunately that leaves out most of the forum. The only person I can say has never been involved in the gangbangs on me and is also active is Snaff. But as I have already said, a pure debate is reward enough for me. Too bad we can't do it live, my strongest suit is my general knowledge at my fingertips on most subjects, doing a debate cold without knowing the subject ahead of time and no time for research is very fun for me. Did you ever move further south or are you still stuck in winterland? Cold=bad Hey we could debate the pros and cons of living in the north, lol. Your in the North so you can take the pro and I being in Florida can take the cons, lol. Switching might be interesting but I am not sure how well I can defend the North being as much as I hate it So debate for the heck of it? Nothing like setting a new standard of interaction for trying to mend fences, at least in my opinion that is.

Now there was very good comeback, lol. So are you now saying Bender did admit Republicans did offer ideas? That every time IWS posted them Bender admitted he was wrong and Republicans were trying to offer new ideas? You know damn well that Bender always ignored the many attempts IWS made, I also called Bender out on specific things that Bender refused to answer but that just shows how people like us who actually post facts and links are trying to have an open debate while people like Bender call us racists and use distraction and ignoring questions do dodge the questions and points. At least your consistent, lol. And was it not me who made a post about perceptions and how they can transform reality to the person? Did I take your attacks on me and Tami as personal attacks? Yes, but the point was why you had to make them in the first place? No not bullsh!t, I have not put any strings on you, your not my puppet, your responsible for your own behaviors Ali, you can't blame me for your actions. If what I say is really so off the mark you could just ignore it as crazy the way I have decided to do with Wez, but if you instead find yourself getting angry and needing to "rip me apart" then that is all on your shoulders Ali, not mine. In many ways I see you the way I see Obama. I do not hate Obama, but I do not like some of his policies and actions. I do not hate you Ali but I do not like your need to "get bloody" when people do not agree with you. Remember when you said you were ripping MrsK apart because of how she treated you in the past? You needed revenge, you saw a chance for revenge, and you took it without considering if it was right or wrong, you just did it to feed your anger. You do the same to me sometimes and for the same reasons of revenge seeking. I keep saying I would love a real debate with you or anyone else with the rule that you can't turn to personal attacks.......you up for that Ali? Do you have the ability to do that? Structured debates are actually pretty easy, we can pick a topic and both take two turns at offering our views one after the other and we let the audience decide how we did. "Winning" for you would be easy because there is not one person here who would vote for me against you no matter how well I did but to me the debate is the fun part, I do not need anyone else to agree with me or like what I say for me to enjoy the experience. The best debates are when two people really do believe in the opposite sides but I can offer a reasonable arguement for both sides of any debate topic if that is what someone would like to do.

Maybe, It is ALWAYS possible to be beat, that is the point of the DT class I teach for women, one of the things I teach them is to use the overconfidence a man will have when attacking a woman to their best advantage to set up their element of surprise. I will say that nobody can easily take me, though, lol. I didn't forget them, they never debate or answer direct questions asked of them. They want to preach from their soapbox and if you dare to question them they either ignore the questions or pretend the point you made is beneath them to answer. How many times did IWS post Republican idea after Republican idea just to have Bender claim Republicans never have their own ideas? IWS proved Bender wrong and Bender just waved it off as never happening. On the whole Conservatives are more capable of honest debate because we are too independant to think in the restricted ways Liberals do to always do or say what is set out by their marching orders. Some bullsh!t can be fun, but I already agreed Emkay is very smart. Everyone has their own ideas of what is or is not politically correct. In your case you hate to see anything negative about women even if it is 100% dead on. You will turn to personal attacks and completely ignoring facts when these discussions come up. Other than that, your very smart and I think you could be very good at debating if you stopped taking everything so personal. Things are smooth sailing until someone turns to personal attacks Ali, and most of the time your the first one to draw that blood. That is why I said I would love a pure debate to happen because some people like you refuse to stay on topic if the people in the discussion are not agreeing with you. You can't blame me for your own bad behaviors Ali, I am not Mangiafuoco.

I'm a lover not a fighter If your talking about a physical battle me and IWS might be the closest good fight, he is a cop and has some training and should be tough on a mental level because of the job but I actually teach DT and I would end up winning by superior fighting knowledge/skill. I don't see anyone else standing a chance against either one of us on a physical level. In a verbal battle that had to stay away from personal attacks that would put IWS, Snaff, old salt, and myself at the top with RO if he could resist the urge to play attack dog, I have noticed when he is in that mode he stops thinking. emkay is pretty smart but I don't see her as wanting to really put in the energy to have a real debate, not that she was unable, just that she would not find it fun. Hack, Ali, eddo, Chi, Bender, Merc, and several others are all very smart but tend to restrict their comments to purely politically correct lines or in the case of eddo, he will simply agree with Ali, lol. In all honesty, I would love to see a pure debate on this forum, to date I have never seen one that has not ended up with people flaming the posters and completely ignoring the topic or the facts offered, lol.

Happy birthday Chi, 30 is a tough age, I remember it well, it is a kind of roadsign telling us that the road ahead is about to get a tad rougher, lol. But it also has greater chances for rewards and accomplishments so it does balance out for most. Good luck, I hope your trip to 31 will be an interesting one

It sounds like your describing a slow page load but just longer than normal, you are on high speed right? Sometimes connection speeds can play a part in sluggish page loading. Most viruses and malware can also use resources and use up bandwidth if their botting your computer. Do you ever download movies or cracked software using a peer to peer program?

'Tis better to have loved and lost, Than never to have loved at all. ~ Lord Tennyson "You cannot find peace by avoiding life." ~ Virginia Woolf "Love is passion, obsession, someone you can't live without. If you don't start with that, what are you going to end up with? Fall head over heels. I say find someone you can love like crazy and who'll love you the same way back. And how do you find him? Forget your head and listen to your heart. I'm not hearing any heart. Run the risk, if you get hurt, you'll come back. Because, the truth is there is no sense living your life without this. To make the journey and not fall deeply in love - well, you haven't lived a life at all. You have to try. Because if you haven't tried, you haven't lived." ~ William Parrish (meet Joe Black movie)

Well now I have her reworking this design in several ways, I liked Ali's idea of repossitioning the scythe so we are giving that a try, it just does not catch my eye as much as it did with the wings, I was really loking for something different and without the wings, this looks like most other depictions of a reaper, nothing special. I may have to start over and keep looking for a new design.

Well I have to say I did not see a #1 team in their play this weekend from any of the top contenders for college football. Fumbles, dropped passes, sloppy tackles, broken plays, bad attitudes and just an overall air of not caring enough to execute plays properly. You would think they all wanted to end up playing for the Vikings or something, lol. Forgive me Ali I really thought they should leave the #1 spot blank on the polls as a hint to these teams to get their sh!t together. Texas, Alabama, and Florida all played like sh!t, but at least they won their games....but it seemed most of the ranked teams had their problems this weekend. I hope things settle down.

lol, well I can see the love has not worn off. As usual I will avoid the arguement that always starts if I dare to try and play along, have fun

Sometimes you can get a conflict with certain things in the USB ports as well, it is rare but it does happen, and as usual I have to have personal experiance with an exception, if I plug my Blackberry into my work desktop, my USB keyboard will stop working. I can unplug my keyboard then plug it back in and it will work for about 5 minutes then stop working again. It took me several minutes to figure out what was happening. I unplugged my phone and everything was fine. As far as your first issue I would have to see it to know what your talking about but if more than one has the same problem then maybe it is a program/application that you use that is on all of them. I know sometimes a big banner ad will not always load at first for me sometimes and when it does the entire page drops down for me, But it is obfiously the big ad so I am sure that is not what your talking about. Everyone else already answered #2 for you. Good luck.

Agreed. Most people do not hate Obama, but we do hate what he is doing, I know I see more of what makes America great going away and it does not make me feel good.

And I thought "I" was the responsibility above all else 'preacher' lol. It all comes down to responsibility, everything is traceable back to if people take responsibility for their own actions or not. The more we enable irresponsibility, the more it will increase until we are enabling other forms of irresponsibility. Irresponsibility is a disease, and it spreads the fastest by the Government enabling it and making excuses for it.

That would be 4 times daily until the problem goes away

I am still wrestling with that one, she is drawing me "her version" of this design and she agreed to draw it both way, with and without the wings so I can get a better idea of the final product. On the surface I like them, it goes to being more unique and original and it also respects the original artists intent. On the other hand it is not as traditional, you just don't see wings on the reaper in most of the established art so it might take away from the over intent of a reaper design.......hard choice for me.

Snowing already? Damn I am glad I live in Florida

The part I giggle about in that is where Gore says the wrong details did not matter, that he still won the right to show it to the kids and that is the typical Liberal/socialist mindset, facts do not matter, only "their" ideas of what needs to be done matter.

Well sure epic fail, most of the time I am sure ladies let us get away with it because they pity us poor men who want to get next to them

That is cool, so do I, you have now risen higher in my reguard Em, a fellow reader of more than the normal meaningless fluff out there, bravo. You ever imagine how much better life would be if we could have "not" invented the television?

Well I don't see it as any worse than the line Ali was talking about one day that worked for her male friend. Don't you think most the people in the "meat farm" called a bar know what time it is? I always tell guys who feel shy about breaking the ice that if they never ask, the answer is always no anyway so they may as well ask and have a chance at a yes. If this app or anything else can get someone to gather up enough courage to break the ice.......then that is half the battle.

But EM, women don't need any lines to get laid, many times men do

Well that is two of you saying no color, I think I will listen to that, do you agree with em on no wings?

True, the definition might not be what you expect, kids can see things very strange sometimes, lol.

What do they mean "not as fancy"? Your not as flashy or dressed up maybe? I still love the fact I was born male, life seems so much easier to not have to go through this stuff, lol.

Your trying to turn this into something personal, you asked for opinions and ideas on how we saw this and I offered my views. I do not base this on my faith entirely, instead I look back for thousands of years and see that what tends to work in relationships is for the pair to be dedicated to each other. I also see what happens when people stray and the emotional roller coaster that follows. It just seems logical to me that if you deeply care about someone on that level, you would want to make it special. To me sex is an expression of love, not to be confused with a night with friends playing spades. I was just offering ideas, concepts Ali, your always take everythign so personal and think I am trying to attack you or something whan I am not. I don't know what your experiences are like but you have shared a lot of very bad things as a result to your relationships so is it really so crazy for me to think "maybe" you have become jaded? I don't think your a bad person for having a different idea about what love it then me, I am just offering you what love means to me. If anything I feel a little insulted you think getting mad at me for sharing my idea of love is reasonable. Why should only your idea of love be reasonable? Not really, but redirect if you like, but I will say on this point that true love cannot be found unless both people see each other as equals. I won't....lol Wrong point, you said being "everything" was a big pressure, and my point is that pressure is worth it for the kind of love that will result. When asked for my opinion what definitions should I be using? I don't concern myself with fair because life is rarely fair, but it is more often than not predictable. Sex can keep people together in the short term, but two people need something much more to keep them together past the stage where real life gets frustrating, especially once the kids start comming. Without being fully in love and completely committed to each other, there is no way for two people to stay together, and the divorce rate proves that in my opinion. If you were completely committed to each other, why would you divorce? One or the other was not fully committed obviously, so they could not have been really in love, simple logic to me, but I admit this is my opinion and I can easily be wrong being human and all that. True, but you can add things that increase the possibility of problems, take driving very fast for example, that is dangerious to be sure but then start drinking, and talking on the phone, and a rainy day, at night.......... Playing the odds. I never said otherwise but I did ask a very specific question I would like you to address. If you really loved someone, why would you think a night of sex with a stranger is worth possibly bringing a disease home to your loved one? Would you not want to avoid any situation where you could hurt your special person? I never said you did, I was just saying that you were selling yourself short. Your not a bad person and if you "settle" for less than your true desire your just giving up. I went over three years without ever having sex before meeting Tami and even then we did not have sex for a very long time after we started to date. We did not explore sex until we found love. In my opinion letting love define sex seems to allow a greater level of success in that area. And again I can also be wrong, this is just my opinion. Oh, and get your behind over to my tat thread and give me some ideas and thoughts, I know your artsy fartsy and want your input.