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You could see everyone in the stands go silent, we were all scared he was hurt bad. He is doing good now though, he is home and feeling much better. It is never a good time to get hurt but in this case, he will have plenty of time to get on his feet.

To be honest, now that Obama has allowed the witch hunt to continue trying to find fault under every rock in the intelligence community again I don't know why anyone would put their necks at risk to try and get the information we need to stop these threats. I guess it is the most dedicated individual who can look past such a anti-American President and instead do what is right and save lives while you know at the back of your mind that you could be offered up as chum in the political waters. I hate to even speculate on a new attack, but I do know that all our enemies must be very happy with our choice of such a weak President.

My point was that Ali made it seem like there was no possible way for a motorboat to be consider "good" sexual play and in fact was oppressive to all women (she didn't use the word all but she never allowed for exception either). My point from square one and I offered many, many examples that IWS, RO, and Ali all completely ignored was that even the teachers who turn a blind eye are just as guilty as those who directly do these things. Exactly, and not one teacher at that school complained, not one snaf, that upsets me that all of these teachers were involved in this indoctrination and the only reason any of us know about this is because the book writer who was behind some of this stuff released the video to generate chatter to help drive sales of her book.

I agree with Ali, Obama is a dreamer, and in his desire to make everyone like him (not America, him) he in my opinion will instead drive support away because what the world wants to see is leadership and a stand on principles, not weakness. Imagine France sounding tougher than America......who would have ever believed that one?

The lack of opposition from Bender is because he took all of this political stuff and his need to worship Obama blindly too seriously, too close to his heart. Even thought many of you love to twist what I say into things I never said as sport, at the core the majority of us do not believe in the nanny State, Bender is one of the few who really believes the Government should turn America into a daycare center. We have had this discussion already and I am fully on the side of allowing same sex unions that share all of the same rights as same sex marriage but I reserve the specific term "marriage" to be only between man and woman. The term "Marriage" was a descriptive term to describe the religious bonding between man, woman, and God long before the Government of America was formed. The American Government accepted these relationships as an example of a legal bonding and can accept other bondings just as easily. I believe a Country run on laws and personal freedoms has an obligation to preserve the rights of all people and same sex relationships have just as much right to things like Inheritance and insurance coverages.

Glad to know you ladies missed me while I was gone for a long weekend, it is great to be loved

Well I was wrong about how IWS started his attacks, he called me ignorant in his first couple comments then moved to dumbass after that. I did avoid calling him names BM, the only thing I could have done different was to run away after his first post that he called me ignorant in, is that what you believe I should have done? I will admit I don't run away from bully tactics like what IWS started out with, he called me ignorant in his first post on purpose to start a fight. I tried to stay reasonable and explain my real meaning, but all he wanted was the fight.......how can I avoid something when no matter what I say, he was determined to flame me anyway? If you don't want to reply here I can respect that, Ali and the rest have made this all about their hate for me anyway but I would really be interested in how you think I should handle thing like this when IWS was clearly the hostile one from his very first post, please pm me and we can discuss it in private outside of this mess.

You said a lot more than that Ali, when I asked you why a 'motorboat' was bad to all women you said: Humiliating your partner sexually gives you the upper hand in the relationship. Basic Psychology. How is a 'motorboat' humiliating to a woman Ali? The answer is it is not, while it "may" be humiliating to you to allow some give and take in shared sexual explorations, that does not mean "all" women are as sensative to keeping an iron grip over your men during sex. And while we are at it Ali has just made a great point for me....and she didn't even understand it. She said the "motorboat" was humiliating and kept women under control. While she did not use the word "ALL" she didn't limit her comment either so it can easily be understood she was trying to say this was humiliating to all women and there was no way my doing this could be a pleasant sexual action for any woman. Again we see the double standard, Ali can make a genaral claim meant to be a flame on me and that is fine but let me do it not as an attack but just as my opinion of how things are going bad in our schools and suddenly it is wrong to make a general statement......... Hypocrites.

Well that is my point too BM. IWS "COULD" have tried to discuss it calmly but go back and look at his very first post to me on this, he started tossing insults right from the start calling me a dubmass.......now I ask you, do you believe that is a fair debate method for IWS to have used? Forget all the pile on with Ali and her followers, just concentrate on how IWS started the ball rolling and also look at my first attempts to be rational with IWS and I did not return his flames with more flames but instead tried to stay on topic and explain how I feel that even those teachers who do not directly do these things are still in on it by virture of their refusal to oppose it. Agree with me or not I believe my point was valid for at least consideration but it was tossed aside in favor of their need to flame someone, they had not "fed" in a while and needed to chew someone up........

lol, I am having a lot of fun with it snaf, this is exactly the same thing as the "motorboat" incident where Ali pretended it was bad just to have an excuse to flame me. Not one person thought Ali really believed a 'motorboat' was a form of opression to all women in the world as Ali said.....litterally. IWS knew that I never really meant "all" teachers in a litteral sense, I even replied that I didn't after his first objection, my point was it may as well be "all" because those who don't.......keep their mouth shut, just like police who keep their mouth shut when they know they have an abusive fellow officer. IWS is just missing Bender and needs someone to pick a fight with, so I was being an understanding friend and letting him get it all out.....I hope he feels better, the part that made it all worth it was watching how all the usual suspects came out of the woodwork to join in on the gangbang, it is just golden to watch people like Ali pretend to want the mess to end and claim she wants to keep flames off the regular forum but then makes several pure flame posts.......she is as two faced as it gets, and I laughed my ass off at how she can dish it out, but she can't take it.

That almost sounded naughty

Remember both Iran and North Korea tested Obama right off the start with launches and stuff, why do you think they didn't play this way with Bush? lol.

What are you trying to say?

being as all IWS and the rest of you were only interested in flamming me I should feel special to get all of you showing me so much attention [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNC0kIzM1Fo]YouTube - John Paul Young - Love Is In The Air (1978)[/ame]

Iws has contradicted himself as well, now he agrees that all schools have the agenda but he is trying to say it is not the teachers who are driving it.....I guess IWS believes the buildings are doing it and the teachers are all innocent. Whatever his theory, he is wrong. When people like Ali, eddo, and Merc are only posting to flame me and ignoring the topic what do you call it? I really only take issue with Ali, she claims to wanting to keep the flames off the forum but what she really means is flamming me on the open forum is good, flamming her or even not agreeing with her is a flame that I should not be allowed to post in any thread so she cries and gets my posts moved. Your mostly an Opportunist, you can both love the pile on for the sake of the pile on or you can just as fast stay above these kinds of things, sometimes it depends on how much your drininking at the time. I know 99% of your flames are just thoughtless noise and I take you as such.

There is a huge difference between being scared of Ali and joining up with her because you have a similar glee with flamming people. There are no rules when it comes to flamming me Merc, I am the only member who IWS will ever moderate on this forum. As far as my comments at the Jungle, I didn;t even know any of you then so everything I mentioned was based on me believing that the mob mentality is wrong, that ripping MrsK apart was bad no matter how much history was bothering Ali and eddo. And why is the Jungle an issue in "THIS" thread? Everyone says "I" derail threads but look at this. None of you are posting on topic, your all posting to flame, nothing else.

I gave you the cop example to try and help you understand my point. I already admitted that not "all" directly push this liberal agenda, but they do stay silent about it and that makes them part of the problem just like a cop who keeps silent when he knows another cop is dirty. I am not a dunbass just because you can't grasp my point that those who enable these behaviors are still just as guilty as those who do them.

I replied to it, what you said was trying to be constructive, nothing said by Ali, eddo or Merc was constructive and was only motivated to be ugly. Even RO is now in the join along stupid gangbang mentality now, these guys seem desperate to flame, lol.

I have seen a lot of his videos, remember the Canadian medical care one IWS posted here? He seems very good, I wonder if it is all him or if he is just a "face man"?

If your post is not about the school singalong or general school policies in dealing with the kids then your only here to flame me Merc.....as you, eddo, and Ali tend to do. IWS had stopped doing it for awaile, but it seems he is bored with not having Bender to fight with and is now picking fights with me.

Bullsh!t Ali, everything you posted here is flame, but you have always loved your double standards where you can attack everyone but if they dare return the favor, you cry like a baby.

So IWS comming out calling me a dumbass then everyone else piling on is "my" fault? I said all teachers are pushing the liberal agenda because even if their just being silent, they are contributing to the problem. I offered examples like cops who cover up the abuse of a cop are also guilty of the abuse as well to try and help IWS understand my point but he is intentionally ignoring the point just to justify his original need to flame me.

When you say videos do you mean possibly editing them? Splicing segments of videos into your own home movie for example? If not and your just downloading them, copy as is with very little editing besided cropping you should be able to use any standard "modern" computer and do well for a couple years.....but if your going to be doing video editing you will want a more powerful computer with lots of ram. I am paranoid about losing something important so I copy everything important like family video on a secondary drive anyway. Large hard drives are needed if your going to record lots of videos, but if you will burn them and delete them, you will not need much. One thing nice about me running a private wow server is now I can save all my stuff to my drive array on the servers........lots and lots of storage space

Okay, maybe now you can get past your need to dissagree just because it is me saying this. You agree there is a general liberal puch in all schools, now that is at least a small step on your part to seeing the truth, now let's see if I can get you to take the next step. How does this happen if other teachers are fighting against it? That is where your missing the boat either intentionally or because your just brainwashed to blindly accept anything done by a teacher. Even the few teachers who are not directly doing these actions are at the very least keeping their mouths closed about this and that makes them part of the problem. Ali, interesting that if I post something you perceive as negative on one of your threads about you....you cry like a big baby and ask for my posts to be moved but you don't seem to have any problems with making a pure flame post about me in my thread. Whay happened to your claim of wanting to keep the mess off the regular forum?

Let's just take a look at the "safe schools czar" Kevin Jennings. The only thing Jennings is famous for in schools for safety is for encouraging young boys into homosexuality. In his time as a school teacher and an advocate for teaching young boys about alternatave sexual lifestyles, he has been a steady critic of all religious groups and even spoke of his own drug abuse as a child like it was no big deal. One of the groups Jennings helped to found was even revealed to be teaching specific homosexual acts to children in their school sponsored events like : "Fisting (forcing one's entire hand into another person's rectum or vagina) often gets a bad rap....[it's] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with...[and] to put you into an exploratory mode." IWS, for you to claim that there is not at least a general Liberal push in the actionms of all schools shows you either have no clue as to what is really happening in the schools or your just making stuff up to take a shot at me.