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No, just the posts you make about me are attacks, all of them.

lol, so now your trying to change history like you never flammed ACORN in general. I asked you to offer me an example of a school that was not being subjected to these general liberal agendas, I guess you refusing to offer an example is you admitting I am right but you just can't bring yourself to admit it with words.......and that makes you more angry for me to prove your a hypocrite willing to judge groups like Acorn and even Liberals in general but also put me down for doing the same thing with more evidence proving my point than you can show against ACORN. Call me names if your childish nature requires it to feel better about yourself, but your still not addressing the issue of your double standard and how all schools do impose liberal agendas on their students. Yes, some greater than others, but all do this to some degree no matter where the school is.

More negative I see, all you ever post is attacks on me eddo, why is that? And nobody had issue with several of us saying the entire group of Acorn was corrupt as I was pointing about IWS saying. The only problem any of you have is not what was said, but who said it....as you always seem to be.

There are seperate Acorn offices as well, you keep trying to dodge the issue at hand of painting a group with an idea of them being something based on what we have seen some of them do and more important, what we do not see them do. Part of what paints all of ACORN as bad is their reactions to these events at local offices, again out of 5 released videos, only 4 people have been released and two of them look to be comming back now so their refusal to take action to go after at theas the known problem people means they are all corrupt. The same is true for schools, all schools in every district in America has made very liberal changes from one degree to another. If you would like to refute that please name the State you believe is completely free of Liberal changes I am mentioning and I will gladly show you some examples to prove your wrong.

My company provides me with a pretty nice HP but it has a huge monitor and requires a large bag to carry it, I have used this one for over a year now and never had any problems with it. For my own money I agree with eddo, I have purchased 4 Dell laptops (two as gifts) and they were rock solid. Dell has something called complete care where even if you drive over your laptop, they will replace it. I have used that one time (not allowed for purchase in Florida but you can get it shipped to another state then bring it here and still use it). Do not buy a system with Vista if you can avoid it, they are pure garbage. You need about 3 times the ram to get similar performance to an XP machine. I would decide on the size of the computer screen you need first, even select the bag first to be sure you will get what you want size wise then go with features that are available with those. If you do any video work, a seperate video card is much better than an integrated card. Ram is your friend, but it is also pretty cheap to upgrade later if you need to so that is not as important as other things like video cards that cannot be changed later.

Do you think the Buildings of ACORN and the school buildings are corrupt? Is there some outside element making these groups bad or is it instead the "PEOPLE" who are the members who make the group bad? You want to pretend like the overal corruption of ACORN and Schools have nothing to do with the people and that is why your the dumbass, not me IWS. It is like saying the Government is corrupt, but the politicians have nothing to do with it, lol. Your just not making any sense. As I already pointed out and you ignored because it does not fit your desire, all of the teachers in this school knew what was happening and not one of them spoke out, went to the news or otherwise tried to protect these small children from Indoctrination, they stood by and did nothing so even if they are not directly doing the actions, "ALL" of the teachers are involved in the coverup. Let me offer you another example you may be more likely to understand my point. A cop beats the crap out of a person without good cause. Nobody else in the department knows about what happened so they are not "all" involved at that time but the same officer admits to everyone in the department what he did and if they do not take action against him, then they all now share his guilt in what he did. Teachers who are not directly involved in this Liberal agenda but who stay silent and do not fight against it are just as much a part of the result because their inaction was still an action that helped those who did.

Not EVERY ACORN worker is corrupt either IWS, that is my point but you have no problem painting them all as corrupt and needing to dismantle the entire group based on the actions of less than 1% of their people. If me using more facts to say all Teachers push a Liberal agenda makes me a dumbass, then your a dumbass too for doing the same thing with less facts against "ALL" ACORN people. Now even you embrace the double standards, lol.

Nice try but you don't get away that easy my friend. You just like me and RO have openly put down ACORN as a whole with only a few hard actions to actually show maybe at most a hundred ACORN workers as bad but you easily paint "ALL" of ACORN as corrupt. We have less to hold against ACORN than we do our teachers but you feel in ACORN's case it is justified to call "ALL" of them corrupt but not for teachers....... That is adouble standard obviously but the question is why you hold that double standard. Do you just hate Obama so anyone involved with him deserves less benefit of the doubt? At least I apply my possitions equally based on the merrits of the discussion, I have way more evidence proving a liberal agenda in our schools than we have proving "ALL" of ACORN is corrupt so why do you really have a problem with what I said?

lol, I am a dumbass because you want to blind yourself to the truth? There are many thousands of examples just like this in this year alone and if you want me to I can show you much of them but the point is not any one example but the general liberal agenda in our schools that is being driven by teachers. You know what, even the teachers who are not this bad are still themselves not speaking out against these things so they are still part of the problem. Look at this case for example, the only reason we are talking about this situation is because the author of that book was using it to generate chatter and sell more books. Every teacher in that school knew what was happening and none of them complained, so that means they were all part of the problem. Consider this, you agreed all of ACORN was corrupt but at best we have only a few examples of corruption: ACORN and SEIU includes hundreds of thousands of individuals, but you have no problem calling the entire agency bad based on a few examples.....as am I. But for some reason you feel it is wrong for me to apply the same concept to schools and teachers with many thousands of examples, much more than we have against ACORN. Me thinks you are only complaining because it is me saying it.

The general swing in all schools is something I would not expect you to understand, most people are blind to it but if you look closely enough you can see this trend by looking at the examples. Take in consideration how things like dodgeball have been removed from most schools and even many sports because to the school administrators, they have to protect the weaker kids from the stronger kids. Hundreds of schools have already stopped publishing Honor student lists becuase it hurts the feelings of those who don't make the list. \consider how even the grade system has been changed y teachers to make it easier to get better grades, an "A" used to be a 96 or higher, now it is 90 all to create a false sense of accomplishment in children that they did not earn. Consider that in cases like this, a child can't be forced to recite the 'pledge of allegiance' to our Country, but they were just forced to pledge allegiance to Obama......and nobody cares. There are stories like this happening almost every day in America: Sure, the parent was protesting the new pickup policy in a crazy way, but does that give the school administrator the right to proclaim the horse was unsafe and refuse to allow the parent to pick up her own child? Why can't the parent decide if riding a horse is safe or not? The teacher refused to release the child because they wanted to punnish the parent for daring to question the school's policy and to make it worse, the teacher had the officer drop the child at her home "ALONE". Is leaving an 8 year old all alone "SAFE" in the teacher's mind? There was no way for the school to know how long it would take for the mother to get home and leaving an 8 year old all alone was again, more punnishment for daring to buck the system. I can offer examples all day long about how schools and teachers are pushing a Nation wide Liberal agenda, but I can't find any examples of the opposite, I base all of my comments on hard facts and provable trends, not bias.

Do the exceptions make a difference in the overall application of the Liberal agenda in our schools IWS? No. So why consider them as relivant? It seems to me too many people want to waste time talking about the 1% in a situation and ignore the 99%. No, "all" teachers do not do this, but they may as well be because their tiny dissent from their professions overall agenda is like a speck of sand on the beach......unnoticed and insignificant.

Exaggerate? All of the teachers Unions have never supported a single Conservative for President that I have ever heard of. Teachers are part of the Government circle pushing for socialist reforms. Some groups really are completely radical Liberal, teachers are one of them. What is the difference between God and Obama? God does not think he is Obama........

Because the religion of liberal politics is the only allowed religion. Every Teacher in America would refuse to do this if it was for a conservative President, but every teacher in America is purely radical Liberal themselves and feel it is okay to brainwash little children to be brainless little robots for their political beliefs.

Is that not the problem though? Lots of "little" things that are inappropriate can turn into a major problem. This is all part of the double standard I point out in hundreds of ways. Not one tiny speck of this would be allowed for a conservative, but for some reason, this stuff is perfectly okay for a Liberal.

The superintendent of a New Jersey school where students were videotaped being taught to sing the praises of President Obama issued a statement Thursday saying the taping was unauthorized, but failed to address whether the the lesson -- taught durnig Black History Month -- was approved. A YouTube video shows nearly 20 young children being led in a song overflowing with campaign slogans and praise for "Barack Hussein Obama," repeatedly chanting the president's name and celebrating his accomplishments, including his "great plans" to "make this country's economy No. 1 again." The video has set off families in Burlington, N.J., who say that politics shouldn't be forced on young students. Song 1: Mm, mmm, mm! Barack Hussein Obama He said that all must lend a hand To make this country strong again Mmm, mmm, mm! Barack Hussein Obama He said we must be fair today Equal work means equal pay Mmm, mmm, mm! Barack Hussein Obama He said that we must take a stand To make sure everyone gets a chance Mmm, mmm, mm! Barack Hussein Obama He said red, yellow, black or white All are equal in his sight Mmm, mmm, mm! Barack Hussein Obama Yes! Mmm, mmm, mm Barack Hussein Obama Song 2: Hello, Mr. President we honor you today! For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say "hooray!" Hooray, Mr. President! You're number one! The first black American to lead this great nation! Hooray, Mr. President we honor your great plans To make this country's economy number one again! Hooray Mr. President, we're really proud of you! And we stand for all Americans under the great Red, White, and Blue! So continue ---- Mr. President we know you'll do the trick So here's a hearty hip-hooray ---- Hip, hip hooray! Hip, hip hooray! Hip, hip hooray! I have one question, what would Liberals say if a few years ago school teachers were forcing children to sing the same exact songs but with Bush inserted in place of Obama?

I guess that depends if your in the '2' group, or the '1' group.

Well it most likely "IS" boring to them, corruption in their circles is nothing new. That is not to say Conservatives do not have corruption issues, we curely do, but the defining point between them is we remove our corrupting elements when we find them, they try to figure out how to keep their offenders. Consider out of all 5 videos released, only 4 ACORN employees have been fired and ACORN is now pretending to be the victim filing multi million dollar lawsuits today against the young people who busted them.

Do you think anyone would care if it was a purely conservative group who had been busted?

Well to be fair most politicians are great actors, but Obama, that guy is something special. I thought slick Willie was a good political speaker, but Obama is the real meaning behind a saying I have used for most of my life: "You can make your mouth say anything." Obama pulled off the best bait and switch ever attempted on the American populace. He ran for office under the concept of "change" and "hope", he ran as a moderate who would bring people together and find common ground to accomplish the goals of redefining the way things are done in Washington for the better. Put simply, Obama lied. I ask every supporter of Obama to tell me what has been changed in Washington. What ways has Obama found common ground with both parties? What new transparancy has Obama brought to Washington as he promised? Remember the promise of new bills being posted for public view before they are voted on? I find it interesting that many Liberals chant "Bush Lied" concerning his support of action based on the intelligence he had before him when all the powerful Liberals who saw the exact same information agreed with what Bush decided so there was no actual lie with Bush, the available evidence was all Bush had to go on so he did not lie. Obama on the other hand has information that proves what he says is impossible, but he keeps telling the lie anyway. Let's take the promise of Obamacare being "deficit neutral". Every expert who has responded, including those completely in Obama's pocket all agree that there is no possible way for this legislation to be "deficit neutral". So why keep telling that lie?

Well we know Iran will not stop their persuit of a nuke, they are just stalling for time........we will see if they get the time they want.

I say responsibility for both. In many ways it includes all of what Ali said that I completely agree with but in my opinion, each of us standing up to our responsibilities in life will make all of these things a reality.

The hollywood types earn massive amounts of money without really doing any hard work to "earn" it so I believe they think anyone else who has a lot of money has gotten it without earning it as well. If making a profit is the basis for the Government stepping in to offer the people less expensive options (I don't think that is possible either but for the sake of arguement) then why stop at healthcare? Why not call Wal-Mart evil just like insurance companies because they make a massive profit and build Obama-Marts all over America?

I love the Darwin awards At 46 he most likely already passed on his genetic material though.

Maybe not, it was a great example of how someone trying to make a point might go overboard a little in the process but still not really mean what they said in the litteral sense. It is all about trying to get attention.

For some maybe I can agree, but is that not like 'burning your bridges'? If you have the freedom to burn the representation of your freedom, and that creates a hostile atmosphere that forces things to be 'less' free, what did you really accomplish? The American flag (unlike our current President) is the representation of ALL Americans as well as the concepts of our freedoms. At least it is to me.