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Well your entitled to your opinion but it seems to me that your only making excuses for your own horrible and nasty behavior eddo, so I don't believe anything you say now can be truly objective. I actually don't ever attack (the way you do) but you always lie and say I do so I was trying to offer a new direction for the discussion to get away from your broken record by asking why you complain about one from me when you toss hundreds at me first? What I mean by "the way you do" is you post something with the intent to cause harm first, and the topic is just the tool to cause harm. I take the topic at hand first and I may say something that could be seen as negative to someone but that was not my intent. To offer an example let's look at Ali's weight problems. When she made the thread talking about her getting the belt to help her lose weight, I mentioned that the belt only forces her to eat less, a thing she could do herself without the belt. You called that a viscious flame, Ali lost her mind, but what I said was the truth and I did not say it for the purpose to hurt her but to instead offer a factual point. lol, that is truly funny eddo. I always avoided the flame sections eddo, I still remember how Ali challenged me to meet her in the flame war section at the jungle over and over again and I asked her and the rest of you to avoid such childish behaviors but you all insisted. In fact I remember all of you cheering Ali on, you sang her praises and told of her epic battles with other people she had ripped apart before me and you all dared me to face her. There was this awe you all showed her because you all feared her flame skills. And I agree, Ali knows no limits, everything is fair game with her, family, friends, nothing is off limits when Ali is angry. So that raw hostility was seen as insurmountable by any challenger who were to face Ali. The reason so many before me were destroyed by Ali is they tried to match her ferocious style, and in that area, Ali has no match. I do okay against Ali because I don't try to play her game. I don't try to rip her apart, I instead concentrate on her bahaviors that are the result of her anger, and just like you there is nothing you guys can say to get around that fact. Your trying to harm, I'm just standing my ground, and in that there is a world of difference. Believe what you want, I had similar replies to Ali's fake issue with "motorboating". Most people do not believe Ali believes a motorboat is opressive to all women everywhere in the world or out of line, it is just a form of sexual play and if people both like their play, who is Ali to flame them? Ali only took that possition to attack me on a personal level.....period. As far as sharing my personal information......well sharing just a little has ended up with thousands of distortions and personal attacks based on twisting what I say into things I never said so where is my positive reinforcement to share more eddo? Start being friendly to me and maybe I will open up more to you, but all you have ever shoed me is your intent to lie about me and what I say so I really see no positive for me in giving you more to distort. eddo, the difference is intent. You, Ali, and Chi "WANT" to harm, I don't.

Yep, it looked like the walmart smile, I wonder if they sell those?

As IWS said, it was expected. I am waiting for him to pull a Clinton and had control of our military over to the UN again.

This is part of my point in the other thread talking about my belief Obamacare is done. The mass majority of people are sick and tired of the race pimps, and Obama has become the race pimp king at this point. You know, I had high hopes that maybe Obama could be an element for easing some of our race problems but he has actually become of the the people who are making things worse.

Of course your right RO, even Bender agreed that the insurance companies needed to be eliminated completely and that interview with Obama admitting it would take several years is also very clear. The problem is, the public woke up and started asking questions, questions the liberals didn't have any answers to. Obama promised in one of his town meetings to sit down and go line by line with anyone who wanted to and answer all questions.......so about 6 congressmen have taken him up on his offer. For the past two weeks they have been sending requests to the whitehouse asking for Obama to fulfill that promise and go line by line with him............. Obama has not even responded to their requests, not even a form letter saying he is busy right now, he is just completely ignoring them. I truly believe that enough people have complained to make the less radical democrats back off the government option to include the co-op's. That is why Obama is now playing the race card, he knows he does not have the support in congress to pass anything he really wants so his last option is to play the race card. I guess he sees himself as having failed either way so he has nothing else to lose but I believe he is unestimating the American people and how much he is now losing forever because of this race card.

As is yours. Just because many do not agree with me, that does not make me wrong either, take those who believed the Earth was flat for example. Interesting you see what I said as an attack, but it is perfectly fine in your mind to attack my family or even attack me on things that have nothing to do with the discussions we are having. If I do "return" a flame made on me, then the solution is an easy one, don't jump in the mud and then complain when you get dirty eddo. Seriously, you both attack me hundreds of ways but you have the balls to complain if I return one? That is not what I was doing anyway, but even if it was, why are you complaining?

Read it, understood it, responded to all of it already, please try to keep up. You and Ali do this back and forth all the time, it is a practiced process you have rehersed with several other people long before you ever heard of me eddo. One is in trouble, the other steps in to run interference. The point is how nasty you two can be to people, you both go on and on about how you feel justified to act so bad sure, but that is as far as the two of you ever go, you never try to look at yourself and ask why you look for excuses to flame people and lie about them to try and hurt them. Why would you ever "want" to hurt me or anyone else eddo? That desire to harm is a failing inside yourself eddo, I can't force you to feel this way, I am not Mangiafuoco.

Lie - 1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood. 2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression. What was the lie Bender? What did Bush know that all these other people did not know? How did he arrive at the better conclusion and know the "truth" based on the same intel that everyone else including Bill Clinton said proved Iraq had WMD's? If Bush had access to other sources of information, what were those sources? Please name them.

Your every post is your chance to say what you have to say Ali. Why is this other tidbit any different than anything else you have ever posted? To me it does not matter why you act poorly, it is all just excuses for your bad bahavior, nothing else. No, it is the truth, but you do not care about the truth. Your the one trying to justify your acting poorly Ali, not me. Like you shoving these flame threads down people's throats Ali? You famous for flamming people, long before I ever showed up in your life. Like the abuse you had as a child? People love to talk about you Ali. I tell the truth above all other things, you feel I should lie to save feelings and if I do not lie, that is the same thing as a flame in your world. I do not flame is reality though, put simply it is the desperate act of a child to always turn to flames as you always do. Your only a nasty person when you or one of your friends feel threatened or is embarrassed in some way, but your always miserable, that is why you try to over compensate your E-friendships and why you didn't have the ability to control your eating. Always do, thanks

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I think I have to try this just so I can say I did, lol.

Exactly, and that is one of my points, the Government runs medical benefits for the military and it is horrible and also out of money. Everything the Government runs is out of money and runs like sh!t, what makes Bender, Obama, or anyone else think this can be an exception?

Does it really matter? To me the results are all that really matter, not what excuse you will offer for your bad behavior this week. Like you believing eddo was not capable of posting all bad things about me Ali? That was also the truth but you refuse to allow yourself to see that truth. With MrsK, you gave her crap until you broke her, everyone knows it to be true, where do you think I learned about it? I was gone from the jungle when you guys stopped fighting, someone had to tell me, just like somone filled me in on many of your details and even the specifics on the husband you were so critical of with her. I know more than you think I know. You don't Ali, even in your real world life there is not one person you will let be around you that is not dominated by you. This entire thread is you projecting on me Ali. I don't see a need for flame threads, you do. I don't attack peopls's families, you do. I don't attack people in personal ways just because I am angry, you do. Everything you have tried to paint me with is actually describing yourself. You have not had a good day your entire life Ali. Sure you put on a good face but your a miserable person. You strike out at me and the many people before me because your a mess inside. I am just the flavor of the week with you, many other people have endured your wrath and many more in the furture will do so as well because you always need someone to be attacking to help you feel better about yourself.

It seems Bender has gone off the deep end lately, lol. He is dodging almost every direct question asked of him and he is starting to hallucinate or something with trying to say I have tricare, he all but called me a liar and he has no idea what he is talking about.

What? I dodged nothing, I do not have tricare. It is called english, I may have my issues with spelling sometimes but I do know what I do and do not use and I have never enrolled in tricare Bender, never, do you have an issue understanding what never means? OKAY. I didn't even really know what tricare was before Bender brought it up, sure I had heard of it but I was not sure exactly how it worked or what it covered so I went to this site: Welcome to TRICARE, your Military Health Plan I do not fit into any of those categories. It seems that tricare is for retired or active duty military, reservists, national guard, and their families. I served for 4 years active and two years inactive reserves, I do not believe I would qualify for tricare even if I wanted it.

I am seeing more and more democrats who are bailing on Obamacare and while Obama and the rest of the liberals have been trying to make it sound like Republicans are the blockers, it turns out they do not even have their fellow Liberals under control and more "facts" are starting to come out that shows there is not as much support fot it as Obama has claimed from places like doctors. Yes, the American Medical Association has endorsed Obamacare, but when we look closer, we are finding out that this is just like the support from AARP where the buracrats of the group signed on with promises from Obama, but their members do not necessarily share the views of their groups that are trying to speak for them: [attach=full]2524[/attach] [attach=full]2525[/attach] [attach=full]2526[/attach] My brother in law is a doctor and he agrees that government controlled healthcare either directly or indirectly will cause a lot of harm. He mentioned the same thing this new polling touched on where a massive number of doctors are maybe not "old" but are not young either and dealing with the mess will not be pleasant so many will just decide to not get involved with it at all and if that means they have to retire early, so be it. In general most Americans oppose Obamacare, 55% are against it, 42% support it. The biggest swing against Obama are independants, the same people who gave Obama the Presidency. The things that seem to have turned more Americans away from Obamacare was not just the obvious issues that nobody including Obama will even address (like how it is impossible for it to be ?deficit neutral?) but also the way the liberals are painting anyone who does not blindly follow Obama as racists, fake protesters, gangs, etc, is pissing people off. This Country has had it's racist problems, but trying to paint "everyone" as racists just because they do not agree with Obamacare is simply wrong. Americans still see ourselves as good. Trying to say Americans are racists just because they do not agree with Obama is what I believe is the last straw. I predict right now that playing the race card has killed any government run plan, Obama has gambled big and lost in my opinion. I may be proven wrong, but this is my prediction based on how I see even Democrats that are trying to get away from this abuse of the race card. Agree? Disagree?

Tape number 5 released today. This time an ACORN worker offers to help smuggle the illegal underage girls into America, ACORN itself just said they are going to run their own investigation but we all know that is a farce. This group needs to be fully investigated, I wonder if Obama will allow it?

I'm not trying to tell you anything Bender, I actually said it. From the day I was released from military service, I have never set one foot inside any government medical facility for treatment (I have visited people) or used any government supplied medical care/coverage. I have used various insurance coverage from employers and on top of that I have a seperate gap coverage that covers my deductables and even gave me a profit for each of my children being born because it reimbursed me for more than my copay and deductable for the hospital and doctors on each birth. I would not trust anyone I loved to care from a doctor who would work for the Government if I had any other choice. Emergency and nobody else is around, sure, sometimes you do not always have an option, but given a choice, no.

The perp also had the choice to not do the crime in the first place.

Nice one IWS. I keep asking Bender "what lie" he is talking about because for Bush to have told a lie, he would have had to know there were not any WMD's there. How is it a guy who everyone says is completely stupid know things nobody else knew, not even Bill Clinton and Al Gore? I have many more quotes from liberals who got the same exact information Bush got all agreeing to the same conclusion Bush came up with. So for Bender's words to be true, all the liberal leadership had to be part of the lie as well. Does Bender really believe that everyone was going along with Bush's lie? I really want to know why Bender believes Bush was somehow better equiped to see the truth from the reports that every liberal could not see.

Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgement you make, you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. - Matthew 7:1-3 Exactly, so if you judge someone based on how nasty they are in attacking my family for example, I must also be willing to be judged on my own actions to attack someone's family. The meaning is to live what you preach......I do exactly that. That is not to say I am always perfect, I am human after all, but I do not go out of my way to be nasty or hurtful.....you do. Ali, I am sure your reasons are complex, but the biggest reason you dislike me so much is I do not cower down to you. The biggest reason you and MrsK "patched" your relationship is because she finally gave up and let you dominate her. You do not have a single 'friend' who will stand up to you when your acting like an azz......not one. That is not to say your all bad though as you try to make me sound. Your like the abusive husband, you act very poorly and once you have dominated someone, you "make up for it" with gifts, pretty words and lots of attention. But let that person dare to step out of line again, and they will see the abuse again. Your a control freak, and I can't be controlled, don't feel bad though, many people before you thought they could control me, and also failed miserably, your feelings of frustration are shared by many, lol. Have a nice day

Well the non-racists want it.

See my point, I could post the sky is blue and someone would assign an evil intent to my words that is not there. Notice how I get called hurtful and ugly names even when I am trying to do the right thing?

Your such a broken record Bender. I have never gotten medical treatment at a VA hospital Bender, they are idiots and the vast majority of the doctors are not capable of working on their own, it is the only job they can get. This is what happens when the Government runs a medical provider and what we will get if Obamacare is passed. But I do see you again dodged the point that severe rationing "must" happen under Obamacare, I believe you even agreed with that one time about three weeks ago, maybe it was snaf or Hugo who said it first and then you agreed to it, just like you agreed that Obamacare would one day eliminate all private insurance companies, as Obama himself has said he wants.

Obviously it is, you just made an assumption of evil intent to my actions that is not right, this is how this stuff gets out of hand, first you then someone else jumps on the bandwagon and before you know it I have been branded with something that is not true.