Bob is a racist

[eddo]

Exactly. So minorities are taking over in numbers, so deal with it! We're taking our land back.

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If you guys want to invade and take over, at least support yourself in the process instead of acting like a cancer and killing the host your invading.

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Are you automatically classifying me as "you guys" because I'm Hispanic? Gee, I thought race wasn't the issue - ??

ummm, Chi- you made this about you. not TJ. No fair getting upset with him for continuing your analogy...

 

[eddo]

Protecting their family and property? And just how are illegals threatening and harming your family and property?

Property:

Groups Struggle to Clean Up Mess Illegal Immigrants Leave Behind

Immigrants Leaving Mounds of Trash on Tohono O'Odham Indian Sacred Lands

Trashing Arizona

People:

llegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily- 2006

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says- 2007

Feds: 25 Americans Killed by illegal aliens Each Day...OK...Drug wars on the border...Not OK- 2009

Illegal Immigrant Suspected in Murder of Arizona Rancher- 2010

I'm beginning to wonder if you really even know what this is about Chi...

and if you are curious, it isn't about these folks being Mexican, Hispanic, or or even having tan skin. It's about people killing Americans, sucking our resources dry, and causing lots of issues. Probably not in your city, but most definitely in my city.

 

[Chi]

Exactly. So minorities are taking over in numbers, so deal with it! We're taking our land back.

...

If you guys want to invade and take over, at least support yourself in the process instead of acting like a cancer and killing the host your invading.

...

Are you automatically classifying me as "you guys" because I'm Hispanic? Gee, I thought race wasn't the issue - ??

ummm, Chi- you made this about you. not TJ. No fair getting upset with him for continuing your analogy...

Eddo, I'm not the one pretending this has nothing to do with race.

 

[eddo]

Exactly. So minorities are taking over in numbers, so deal with it! We're taking our land back.

...

If you guys want to invade and take over, at least support yourself in the process instead of acting like a cancer and killing the host your invading.

...

Are you automatically classifying me as "you guys" because I'm Hispanic? Gee, I thought race wasn't the issue - ??

ummm, Chi- you made this about you. not TJ. No fair getting upset with him for continuing your analogy...

Eddo, I'm not the one pretending this has nothing to do with race.

but you are the one that brought your race into it.

 

[Chi]

Protecting their family and property? And just how are illegals threatening and harming your family and property?

Property:

Groups Struggle to Clean Up Mess Illegal Immigrants Leave Behind

Immigrants Leaving Mounds of Trash on Tohono O'Odham Indian Sacred Lands

Trashing Arizona

People:

llegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily- 2006

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says- 2007

Feds: 25 Americans Killed by illegal aliens Each Day...OK...Drug wars on the border...Not OK- 2009

Illegal Immigrant Suspected in Murder of Arizona Rancher- 2010

I'm beginning to wonder if you really even know what this is about Chi...

and if you are curious, it isn't about these folks being Mexican, Hispanic, or or even having tan skin. It's about people killing Americans, sucking our resources dry, and causing lots of issues. Probably not in your city, but most definitely in my city.

Gotta admit Eddo, great points. I'm questioning the accuracy in numbers on the murders though. More than Iraq? A war? Hard to believe.

 

[Chi]

Exactly. So minorities are taking over in numbers, so deal with it! We're taking our land back.

...

If you guys want to invade and take over, at least support yourself in the process instead of acting like a cancer and killing the host your invading.

...

Are you automatically classifying me as "you guys" because I'm Hispanic? Gee, I thought race wasn't the issue - ??

ummm, Chi- you made this about you. not TJ. No fair getting upset with him for continuing your analogy...

Eddo, I'm not the one pretending this has nothing to do with race.

but you are the one that brought your race into it.

I know. I'm quite aware of that. I just don't buy when people say race has nothing to do with it. That because others look, talk and are different from you, you (not you, but people in general) sometimes have certain misconceptions, bias and prejudice against others. And I'm not above that eithet.

 

[Chi]

Eddo, I'm not the one pretending this has nothing to do with race.

but you are the one that brought your race into it.

I know. I'm quite aware of that. I just don't buy when people say race has nothing to do with it. That because others look, talk and are different from you, you (not you, but people in general) sometimes have certain misconceptions, bias and prejudice against others. And I'm not above that either.

 

[snafu]

See Chi if you had to lock your doors, clean up someone elses mess, carry a gun where ever you go and be accosted daily by people trampling threw your yard you would be up in arms too. It has nothing to do with race. That's why the thread was calling Bob a racist because he didn't allow people to take over his house. But because they happen to be Mexican he gets called a racist.

Get it?

 

[snafu]

How would you feel if you had 1,200 people walking through your yard daily? how bout finding dead bodies in your yard? Would you let your kids play in that yard?

 

[Chi]

See Chi if you had to lock your doors, clean up someone elses mess, carry a gun where ever you go and be accosted daily by people trampling threw your yard you would be up in arms too. It has nothing to do with race. That's why the thread was calling Bob a racist because he didn't allow people to take over his house. But because they happen to be Mexican he gets called a racist.

Get it?

No, no, but that's the thing. This isn't personally affecting you or your family. You should always lock your doors anyway. Who's mess are you personally cleaning? And if you take a gun with you wherever you go, you either did something, are very paranoid or are kind of a coward imo...

 

[Chi]

How would you feel if you had 1,200 people walking through your yard daily? how bout finding dead bodies in your yard? Would you let your kids play in that yard?

Oh my... Why are we going thru such extremes? Please stay logical and give me something viable and realistic. Does this happen to you? Or the average American in America?

 

[snafu]

How would you feel if you had 1,200 people walking through your yard daily? how bout finding dead bodies in your yard? Would you let your kids play in that yard?

Oh my... Why are we going thru such extremes? Please stay logical and give me something viable and realistic. Does this happen to you? Or the average American in America?

All tax payers pay for this. The drugs comming effect us all and I protect my neighbor as I would have them protect me IE: AZ are my neighbors. Extremes? Ok how about one person coming through your yard a day? How about one dead body a year? Would that be better?

 

[snafu]

The people who live within 60 to 80 miles of the Arizona/Mexico Border have for years been terrorized and have pleaded for help to stop the daily invasion of humans who cross their property . One Rancher testified that 300 to 1200 people a DAY come across his ranch vandalizing his property, stealing his vehicles and property, cutting down his fences, and leaving trash. In the last two years he has found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles. Another rancher testified that daily drugs are brought across his ranch in a military operation. A point man with a machine gun goes in front, 1/2 mile behind are the guards fully armed, 1/2 mile behind them are the drugs, behind the drugs 1/2 mile are more guards. These people are violent and they will kill anyone who gets in the way. This was not the only rancher we heard that day that talked about the drug trains. One man told of two illegal’s who came upon his property one shot in the back and the other in the arm by the drug runners who had forced them to carry the drugs and then shot them. Daily they listen to gun fire during the night it is not safe to leave his family alone on the ranch and they can’t leave the ranch for fear of nothing being left when they come back.

The border patrol is not on the border. They have set up 60 miles away with check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. They are not allowed to use force in stopping anyone who is entering. They run around chasing them, if they get their hands on them then they can take them back across the border. Federal prisons have over 35% illegal’s and 20% of Arizona prisons are filled with illegal’s. In the last few years 80% of our law enforcement that have been killed or wounded have been by an illegal. The majority of people coming now are people we need to be worried about. The ranchers told us that they have seen a change in the people coming they are not just those who are looking for work and a better life.

These drug runners aren't looking at race either...

 

[Chi]

How would you feel if you had 1,200 people walking through your yard daily? how bout finding dead bodies in your yard? Would you let your kids play in that yard?

Oh my... Why are we going thru such extremes? Please stay logical and give me something viable and realistic. Does this happen to you? Or the average American in America?

All tax payers pay for this. The drugs comming effect us all and I protect my neighbor as I would have them protect me IE: AZ are my neighbors. Extremes? Ok how about one person coming through your yard a day? How about one dead body a year? Would that be better?

I can guarantee most tax dollars are going to Americans on welfare and not illegals. As far as drugs, if there wasn't a demand, it wouldn't be an issue. I still have never had an illegal camp out on my yard or croak on my yard, not once a year nor ever.

 

[Chi]

This will also be my last post. You all know where I stand on this issue and I know where you stand so let's leave it at that. Arguing about it is not going to make either of us change our minds, just probably make us cling to our beliefs even more.

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

TJ - Let's not act like race is never an issue, okay? And what is this you guys bullshit? 1.) I'm not illegal 2.) I've always worked and supported myself and mine. Are you automatically classifying me as "you guys" because I'm Hispanic? Gee, I thought race wasn't the issue - ??

You guys as in liberals (and others) who turn everything into race baiting to divert attention away from the "real" problem, I had no idea you were hispanic, although "Chi" now makes sense.

I never said race "was never" an issue, I said it was not an issue now or with the current inability to pay for the 12 million illegals currently in America. We have a massive problem, it needs to be dealt with, sticking your head in the sand and pretending to not see the problem just because you want to defend your fellow hispanics is not going to fix this problem Chi. Where is your first loyalty Chi?

America or Mexico?

If your an American than be concerned with an American issue, if your a Mexican first then be proud that your invasion is going well and your infiltration of our political system has been so successful so far.

Eh sure, whatever, TJ. And yes, I'm such a liberal! If you really must know, my loyalty is to what is right. When something is wrong or unfair, it doesn't stop being that way just because I'm legal or Hispanic, black, white or purple. People don't come to this country to cause trouble, **** people off or mooch off of others, they come here to work, survive and try to obtain a decent life like everyone else. If people can't see that and choose to treat their fellow man a certain way, then so be it. Justice will just have to come at a price like it has many times in the past.

haven't read past this, so I'm replying to this first. If you're loyalties lie with what is right, then you support the bill in AZ? They just want to make sure that ILLEGALS that are here ILLEGALLY are removed so that they can try again LEGALLY.

People don't come to this country to cause trouble, **** people off or mooch off of others, they come here to work, survive and try to obtain a decent life like everyone else. If people can't see that and choose to treat their fellow man a certain way, then so be it.

If those people can't figure out how to come to this country legally... then screw them. Maybe we should switch to the Mexican immigration policy... It appears to be MUCH more productive and helpful.

Justice will just have to come at a price like it has many times in the past.

Yeah... and right now the price is ILLEGALS getting the frack out. I hope they start shooting the ones that refuse to comply.

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

double post.. oops

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

No, no, but that's the thing. This isn't personally affecting you or your family. You should always lock your doors anyway. Who's mess are you personally cleaning? And if you take a gun with you wherever you go, you either did something, are very paranoid or are kind of a coward imo...

It is personally effecting me and my family and my neighbors and every tax paying American. We shouldn't have to lock our doors, and I know LOTS of people who NEVER lock their doors.

I have a cousin who just moved form AZ to Iowa... she moved because she lived very close to the border, and she was tired of cleaning up the garbage that the worthless illegals left all over her property. And it's my 2nd amendment right (and I have a conceal/carry permit) to carry my gun wherever I want (within the confines of the law). So why shouldn't I? I'm not ashamed of anything, I haven't broken any laws, and I am not a coward... You tell me why I SHOULDN'T carry my weapon.

Oh my... Why are we going thru such extremes? Please stay logical and give me something viable and realistic. Does this happen to you? Or the average American in America?

This happens in America. Not to the average American, but if it happens to 1, or 2, then why shouldn't we be concerned?

All tax payers pay for this. The drugs comming effect us all and I protect my neighbor as I would have them protect me IE: AZ are my neighbors. Extremes? Ok how about one person coming through your yard a day? How about one dead body a year? Would that be better?

agreed

I can guarantee most tax dollars are going to Americans on welfare and not illegals. As far as drugs, if there wasn't a demand, it wouldn't be an issue. I still have never had an illegal camp out on my yard or croak on my yard, not once a year nor ever.

how can you guarantee that? How many illegals do you know? Illegal aliens (as I believe was posted on one of the threads here recently) DO receive welfare benefits and free school, and free lunch, and billions of dollars of other tax-payer funded programs, which they do not pay into btw.

How can you guarantee that without having to support them, that the economy wouldn't be as bad as it is.

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

How would you feel if you had 1,200 people walking through your yard daily? how bout finding dead bodies in your yard? Would you let your kids play in that yard?

Oh my... Why are we going thru such extremes? Please stay logical and give me something viable and realistic. Does this happen to you? Or the average American in America?

All tax payers pay for this. The drugs comming effect us all and I protect my neighbor as I would have them protect me IE: AZ are my neighbors. Extremes? Ok how about one person coming through your yard a day? How about one dead body a year? Would that be better?

she doesn't get the analogy.

I can guarantee most tax dollars are going to Americans on welfare and not illegals. As far as drugs, if there wasn't a demand, it wouldn't be an issue. I still have never had an illegal camp out on my yard or croak on my yard, not once a year nor ever.

well lucky you.

 

[hugo]

48 illegal aliens every day marry an ugly American who would have never even got laid otherwise.