Holocaust Denial, American Style 29 Nov 2007

"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:40:48 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
> mumbled:
>
>>Al Qaeda is in Iraq because of the USA
>
> L_I_A_R!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/033jgqyi.asp
>
> The CIA has confirmed, in interviews with detainees and informants it
> finds highly credible, that al Qaeda's Number 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri,
> met with Iraqi intelligence in Baghdad in 1992 and 1998. More
> disturbing, according to an administration official familiar with
> briefings the CIA has given President Bush, the Agency has
> "irrefutable evidence" that the Iraqi regime paid Zawahiri $300,000 in
> 1998, around the time his Islamic Jihad was merging with al Qaeda.

911 commission refuted that bullshit ages ago idiot.
 
"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>
>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>> watch
>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make sure
>>>>> you
>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>> executed
>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that as
>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are responsible
>>>>for
>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>
>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>> sectarian violence?
>>
>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers, which is our
>>responsibility. Iraqis have been able to kill eachother because we haven't
>>established control over most of the country. As the occupying power, we
>>are
>>responsible for the safety of the people.
>>Are you unaware of that?
>
> One day you will realize that al Qaeda is a criminal gang.

What an odd dodge. You certainly ran away from your previous argument. Are
you always this cowardly?
 
"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>
>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>> watch
>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make sure
>>>>> you
>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>> executed
>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that as
>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are responsible
>>>>for
>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>
>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>> sectarian violence?
>>
>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers,
> Tough.

Your post is certainly idiotic.
 
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:38:00 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
mumbled:

>
>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>news:0bs3l3diuteuujhn8ql9k71guauhkps364@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:40:48 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>> mumbled:
>>
>>>Al Qaeda is in Iraq because of the USA
>>
>> L_I_A_R!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/033jgqyi.asp
>>
>> The CIA has confirmed, in interviews with detainees and informants it
>> finds highly credible, that al Qaeda's Number 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri,
>> met with Iraqi intelligence in Baghdad in 1992 and 1998. More
>> disturbing, according to an administration official familiar with
>> briefings the CIA has given President Bush, the Agency has
>> "irrefutable evidence" that the Iraqi regime paid Zawahiri $300,000 in
>> 1998, around the time his Islamic Jihad was merging with al Qaeda.
>
>911 commission refuted

Nope.
 
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:08 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
mumbled:

>
>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>news:neh3l3l87cosb9dc3e0a7sde9nvmkset09@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>> watch
>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make sure
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>> executed
>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are responsible
>>>>>for
>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>
>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>
>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers, which is our
>>>responsibility. Iraqis have been able to kill eachother because we haven't
>>>established control over most of the country. As the occupying power, we
>>>are
>>>responsible for the safety of the people.
>>>Are you unaware of that?
>>
>> One day you will realize that al Qaeda is a criminal gang.
>
>What an odd dodge.

Accurate too.
 
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:28 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
mumbled:

>
>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>news:p9s3l35s0uicbfp06h9sj3ta8tjbhnceoe@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>> watch
>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make sure
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>> executed
>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are responsible
>>>>>for
>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>
>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>
>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers,
>> Tough.
>
>Your post is certainly idiotic.
>
You are a witless simp.
 
"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:neh3l3l87cosb9dc3e0a7sde9nvmkset09@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
[snip]

>>
>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers, which is our
>>responsibility. Iraqis have been able to kill eachother because we haven't
>>established control over most of the country. As the occupying power, we
>>are
>>responsible for the safety of the people.
>>Are you unaware of that?
>
> One day you will realize that al Qaeda is a criminal gang.

1. what percent of deaths in iraq is being perpratrated by al Quaeda?
2. It was the US that removed the Iraqi military and police so you can't say
the lack of military and police has nothing to do with them can you?
 
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:00:00 GMT, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>2. It was the US that removed the Iraqi military and police


They're....BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:00:00 GMT, "Mavisbeacon"
> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>
>>2. It was the US that removed the Iraqi military and police
>
>
> They're....BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how many?
How many before occupation?
How many now?
Will people follow their orders?
 
"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:28 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>>news:p9s3l35s0uicbfp06h9sj3ta8tjbhnceoe@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>> mumbled:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>>> executed
>>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are
>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>>
>>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>>
>>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers,
>>> Tough.
>>
>>Your post is certainly idiotic.
>>
> You are a witless simp.

when you cant deal with the actual topic do you always resorting to
attacking the other person?
 
"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:38:00 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>>news:0bs3l3diuteuujhn8ql9k71guauhkps364@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:40:48 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>> mumbled:
>>>
>>>>Al Qaeda is in Iraq because of the USA
>>>
>>> L_I_A_R!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/033jgqyi.asp
>>>
>>> The CIA has confirmed, in interviews with detainees and informants it
>>> finds highly credible, that al Qaeda's Number 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri,
>>> met with Iraqi intelligence in Baghdad in 1992 and 1998. More
>>> disturbing, according to an administration official familiar with
>>> briefings the CIA has given President Bush, the Agency has
>>> "irrefutable evidence" that the Iraqi regime paid Zawahiri $300,000 in
>>> 1998, around the time his Islamic Jihad was merging with al Qaeda.
>>
>>911 commission refuted
>
> Nope.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Al Qaeda didn't like Saddam and wanted him
out. Saddam was not allied in any way with Al Qaeda. You are ignorant.
 
"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:08 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>news:neh3l3l87cosb9dc3e0a7sde9nvmkset09@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>>> executed
>>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are
>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>>
>>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>>
>>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers, which is our
>>>>responsibility. Iraqis have been able to kill eachother because we
>>>>haven't
>>>>established control over most of the country. As the occupying power, we
>>>>are
>>>>responsible for the safety of the people.
>>>>Are you unaware of that?
>>>
>>> One day you will realize that al Qaeda is a criminal gang.
>>
>>What an odd dodge.
>
> Accurate too.

But nobody was denying that Al Qaeda was a criminal terrorist organization.
It's as relevant as saying "one day you're realize that kittens are cuddly"
 
"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
news:a5c6l3trilg9u3n4eemv67o5f7kmqoj67t@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:28 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>>news:p9s3l35s0uicbfp06h9sj3ta8tjbhnceoe@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>> mumbled:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>>> executed
>>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are
>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>>
>>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>>
>>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers,
>>> Tough.
>>
>>Your post is certainly idiotic.
>>
> You are a witless simp.

Name calling only proves the emptiness of your arguments and mind. Better
luck next time idiot.
 
"Mavisbeacon" <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> wrote in message
news:c%Y4j.61$lt.52@amsnews12...
>
> "Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
> news:a5c6l3trilg9u3n4eemv67o5f7kmqoj67t@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:28 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>>>news:p9s3l35s0uicbfp06h9sj3ta8tjbhnceoe@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most
>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>>>> executed
>>>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are
>>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>>>
>>>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers,
>>>> Tough.
>>>
>>>Your post is certainly idiotic.
>>>
>> You are a witless simp.
>
> when you cant deal with the actual topic do you always resorting to
> attacking the other person?

He can also quote conservative rags like Weakly Standard, but mostly all he
does is say stupid things and cast out rather limp "flames" when he loses.
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:35:04 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>news:s4c6l3t69jv99dndbvkf6864tkoglc7o5i@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:08 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>news:neh3l3l87cosb9dc3e0a7sde9nvmkset09@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>>>> executed
>>>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are
>>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>>>
>>>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers, which is our
>>>>>responsibility. Iraqis have been able to kill eachother because we
>>>>>haven't
>>>>>established control over most of the country. As the occupying power, we
>>>>>are
>>>>>responsible for the safety of the people.
>>>>>Are you unaware of that?
>>>>
>>>> One day you will realize that al Qaeda is a criminal gang.
>>>
>>>What an odd dodge.
>>
>> Accurate too.
>
>But nobody was denying that Al Qaeda was a criminal terrorist organization.
>It's as relevant as saying "one day you're realize that kittens are cuddly"

When you think up a response that supports your position post back...
 
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:43:04 GMT, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>
>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>news:a5c6l3trilg9u3n4eemv67o5f7kmqoj67t@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:28 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>>>news:p9s3l35s0uicbfp06h9sj3ta8tjbhnceoe@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>>>> executed
>>>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are
>>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>>>
>>>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers,
>>>> Tough.
>>>
>>>Your post is certainly idiotic.
>>>
>> You are a witless simp.
>
>when you cant deal with the actual topic

Why can't you **** off?
 
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:43:04 GMT, "Mavisbeacon"
<Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:

>
>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>news:dgi8l3pkq3epj0umai81ojnt57u60rvgqm@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:00:00 GMT, "Mavisbeacon"
>> <Mavisbeacon@nospam.forme> mumbled:
>>
>>>2. It was the US that removed the Iraqi military and police
>>
>>
>> They're....BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>how many?

Lots.

>How many before occupation?

Less.

>How many now?

More.

>Will people follow their orders?

So far.
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:34:01 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
mumbled:

> Al Qaeda didn't like Saddam

Oh?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/033jgqyi.asp

The CIA has confirmed, in interviews with detainees and informants it
finds highly credible, that al Qaeda's Number 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri,
met with Iraqi intelligence in Baghdad in 1992 and 1998. More
disturbing, according to an administration official familiar with
briefings the CIA has given President Bush, the Agency has
"irrefutable evidence" that the Iraqi regime paid Zawahiri $300,000 in
1998, around the time his Islamic Jihad was merging with al Qaeda.
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:35:04 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
mumbled:

>
>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>news:s4c6l3t69jv99dndbvkf6864tkoglc7o5i@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:08 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>news:neh3l3l87cosb9dc3e0a7sde9nvmkset09@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>>>> executed
>>>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are
>>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>>>
>>>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers, which is our
>>>>>responsibility. Iraqis have been able to kill eachother because we
>>>>>haven't
>>>>>established control over most of the country. As the occupying power, we
>>>>>are
>>>>>responsible for the safety of the people.
>>>>>Are you unaware of that?
>>>>
>>>> One day you will realize that al Qaeda is a criminal gang.
>>>
>>>What an odd dodge.
>>
>> Accurate too.
>
>But nobody was denying that Al Qaeda was a criminal terrorist organization.
>It's as relevant as saying "one day you're realize that kittens are cuddly"
>
Your point is?????
 
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:35:54 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
mumbled:

>
>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>news:a5c6l3trilg9u3n4eemv67o5f7kmqoj67t@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:39:28 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ivanhoe Martin" <cliff@rasta.man> wrote in message
>>>news:p9s3l35s0uicbfp06h9sj3ta8tjbhnceoe@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:39:17 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
>>>>>news:3hjuk3p4h2dot1ul7d028uf1f1sn3ojbps@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:44 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Gatt" <gatt@damnnearwiley00.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:13ku5mjtb569pf1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "cor" <corDEL@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:13ku2rca6dc3742@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely
>>>>>>>>> more than one million.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy:
>>>>>>>> http://ia331307.us.archive.org/2/items/tromenter/almoghad.wmv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I promise you that almost everybody here will lack the courage to
>>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The next time you accuse America of murdering people there, make
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> subtract the number of people you see being beheaded, macheted,
>>>>>>>> executed
>>>>>>>> in the name of Islam or Al Qaeda. You're blaming America for that
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>America is responsible because as the Occupying Power we are
>>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the safety of the citizens of Iraq. Or didn't you know that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are thinking that america is "responsible" for Iraqis killing
>>>>>> their fellow Iraqi? Or, are you unaware of the (almost nothing but)
>>>>>> sectarian violence?
>>>>>
>>>>>Iraqis have been killed by Americans in massive numbers,
>>>> Tough.
>>>
>>>Your post is certainly idiotic.
>>>
>> You are a witless simp.
>
>Name calling

**** off.
 

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