Jews vs the Second Amendment

In article <1175914182.610393.267450@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
<"inkyblacks@yahoo.com"> wrote:


> Strangely, and pathetically, many American Evangelical Christians
> worship Israel as the body of God and are devout supporters of Jews,
> no matter what crimes Jews commit, at the same time most Jews despise
> Evangelical Christians and make jokes about how stupid they are.
> America loves BIG BROTHER and licks BIG BROTHER'S feet, while BIG
> BROTHER despises the America people and is destroying America by
> sucking our economy dry. The American media supports the brainwashing
> and mind control that keeps this absurd situation in play, and most
> Americans are too hypnotized, to scared, or too apathetic to fight
> back.
>
> The symbol of America in the year 2007 should be a fat, sleepy sheep,
> not an eagle!


One of my neighbors is an evengelical Christian. He supports Israel
strongly.

Why? As he explains it, Jews are necessary to fullfill Prophecy. Only
when the Jews have "rebuilt the temple" (which his church is sending
contributions for, he says) and then has triggered Armageddon, will
Christ return for his rule.

As for the Jews per se, my neighbors says the Jews are already
condemned to Hell so it doesn't matter what ultimately happens to
Israel. He says he expects it to vanish under the onslaught of Arab and
Iranian nuclear weapons. As far as he is concerned, the Jews will have
done their part.

The Jew is a pawn for Rapture eschatology.

And these guys run the Situation Room.

A good thing I live out where the only thing upwind of me is the
Pacific Ocean. The NeoCons can trigger the war, the Zionists in Israel
can be incinerated, a billion other brown types can die of radiation
sickness, and, hopefully, Washington, D.C. and Jew York City will be
glassified craters.

One way to solve the problem of too many brown types picking our
pockets.


--Tim May
 
"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:32:38 GMT, "Avenger" <avenger@avengers.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
>>> here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>>> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians
>>
>>Not at all similiar. There were very few "indians" around and they were
>>not
>>thrown off their land by the Puritans.Palestine is a densely populated
>>area
>>whcih was taken over by European refugees.
>
> Liar. There were millions of Indians. And they were systematically
> murdered by the US Govn't Cavalry.

Like Custer? lol They were having wars with each other long before they saw
a white man.

There were about 20 million(probably more like 5) "Indians" on TWO
continents, North and South America. In fact, 10k years ago when they came
here the ENTIRE population of the earth was 1 million.



>
>>when they settled
>>> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>>> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
>>> imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
>>>
>>> Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
>>> citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
>>> agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
>>> the United States.
>>
>>Crime is actually down to a 1/3 of what is was 20 years ago.
>
> Bullshit. It has never been higher.


Then you're a boy and weren't conscious 20 years ago.


2/3rds of cases never make it to
> the Court System because that would bring the Judicial Process to a
> grinding halt from overload.

Then it was even more true 20 years ago.NYC had 2000 murders before
Guiliani, now it's 700.



You LIE again.
>
>>> How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
>>> each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
>>> roll.
>>
>>Banks today have bullet proof glass between the tellers and customers.
>
> Where is that? Not around here they don't. THEY DO NOT. Currency
> exchanges do, banks do not. Why the **** do you think they get robbed
> in the first place nitwit? If they had bulletproof glass nobody could
> rob them.

More and more banks are doing it.
>
> You're nothing but a ****ing LIAR Avenger. Are you sure you don't
> work for the government disinformation agency?
>
> Lg
>
 
"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1175896682.099655.182280@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> The "individualist right to a gun" never appears anywhere in the
> Second Amendment

Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights were
enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say this.




and federal force has _never_ been "checked" on U. S.
> soil by individualist ownership of guns, but the real reason so few
> Jews suck on the "if I git pushed too far" pacifier is because Jews
> don't sit around indulging themselves in the fantasy that "utopia will
> break out after an individualist shoots the tax collector."

Jews also don't believe in an afterlife.


> Jews tend to be _real_ citizens who take _real_ action.
>
> The ones who sit around daydreaming pure nonsense -- "check them evil
> feds with violence" -- and stewing in their juice tend to be anti-
> semites.

That was the intention of the 2nd Amendment.An armed citizenry to maintain a
balance of power and keep the leaders in check. And yes, most things do have
to be solved with violence.


>
>
> Bret Cahill
>
>
>
 
"Tim May" <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
news:060420071930414571%timcmay@removethis.got.net...
> In article <1175909160.610380.34830@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, MaK
> <kl8a9ts45p3a@fandango.endjunk.com> wrote:
>
>> Tim May wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >There's something in Judaism, at least in the European and American
>> >versions, which is at nearly polar opposition to the "frontier ethic"
>> >that is usually associated with Protestantism and the pioneers who
>> >spread West.
>> >
>> >Some likely contributors to this mindset:
>> >
>> Like my ol' grandpappy used to say: gun control is goy control.
>> Jews want you to be disarmed...not to be disarmed themselves.
>> Look at Feinstein...she had a concealed carry permit at the same
>> time she was working hard to make sure goys couldn't get one.
>> Jewish cells maintain large caches of automatic weapons in
>> the U.S. according to ex-Mossad officer Victor Ostrovsky in his
>> book By Way of Deception (St. Martin's, 1990). In their Orwellian
>> New World Order they intend to be the ones wearing the jack-
>> boots...not the victims.
>
> Likewise, Jews very vocally support laws encouraging free immigration
> of ethnic untermenschen and applaud mixed-race marriages like black
> O.J. and blonde Nicole....even as they villify Jews who marry outside
> their religion. The Jew likes it when non-Jews engage in miscegenation.
> It weakens their enemies.
>
> My sister, a blonde, married a Jew and was hounded by the name "shiksa"
> (or however it is spelled). She later divorced him.

I hope she took the ******* for every last shekel, except what went to her
lawyer (no doubt also one of the chosen).
 
In article <g3GRh.135152$_73.70845@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Mysterion <mysterionNOSPAM@supernet.com> wrote:

> "Tim May" <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
> news:060420071930414571%timcmay@removethis.got.net...

> >
> > My sister, a blonde, married a Jew and was hounded by the name "shiksa"
> > (or however it is spelled). She later divorced him.
>
> I hope she took the ******* for every last shekel, except what went to her
> lawyer (no doubt also one of the chosen).
>

It was an amicable divorce. He's a good guy. I haven't seen him in 10
years, but my sister remains in touch with him.

We had a couple of interesting debates, ones where he spouted the
Jewish mantra about how government protects our rights, how the Second
Amendment is "outmoded" (not my argument!), and so on.

He always hated it when I referred to Jews in the collective ("Jews
believe..." or "the Jew has always...") but he routinely referred to
"goyim" and "shiksas" and "Christians think..." (even though I am not
and have never been a Christian).

I'd be happy if religion didn't enter into politics, but it clearly
does. And Jews are, for whatever reason, probably the greatest threat
to libery in America that there is. They fundamentally just don't "get
it." Or maybe they do, but want the blessings of liberty reserved only
for their own "tribe."

There is much evidence that the core of Jewish teaching is that only
Jews are "Chosen," are really worthy of YHWH's blessings. All others
are animals, to be exploited. A lot like the Gypsy creed....Gypsies and
Jews are very closely related.

From their Talmud:



#1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim (Gentiles) is like killing a wild
animal."
#2. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be
violated."
#3. Yebamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."
#4. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
#5. Yebamoth 98a: "All gentile children are animals."
#6. Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from
a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made
the wine unclean."
#7. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of
the world are not human beings but beasts."




--Tim May
 
Avenger wrote:
> I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
> > here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
> > what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians
>
> Not at all similiar. There were very few "indians" around and they were not
> thrown off their land by the Puritans.Palestine is a densely populated area
> whcih was taken over by European refugees.

Obviously you never heard the story of the "Trail of Tears". The
president was Andrew Jackson. He wanted to get rid of all Indians East
of the Mississippi river. The Indians, being Eastern Indians and
civilized about things did what you and I might do: Hired lawyers and
took the case clear to the Supreme Court. The court came down
declaring that the gummint had no right to boot Indians out of the
East. Jackson sneered "How many [army] divisions does the Supreme
Court have?" he called out the army, gathered up the Indians East of
the Mississippi and shipped them all West where most either died on
the way of were killed by Western Indians who didn't want anymore
humans coming their way Indian or not. The only reason I'm here is my
great grandmother married a white man and was therefore not ejected.
Jackson did some great things fighting the financial power elite, but
the Trail of Tears ranks right up there with Concentration camps for
Japanese Americans and the Bonus marchers Etc. as another dark chapter
of American hegemony.
 
Get real. At least 7/8 of Jews in America live in core urban Blue
Nation - and much more reflect the leftist politics of that area than
its politics reflect theirs. Is Catholic Ted Kennedy any less anti-
gun than Jewish Feinswine?

No $4 to park! No $6 admission! http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com
 
Avenger avenger@avengers.co.uk said:
> Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights were
> enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say this.
>
Then why, has there never been a supreme court ruling in favor of the right to
keep and bear arms?
 
Avenger avenger@avengers.co.uk said:
> There were about 20 million(probably more like 5) "Indians" on TWO
> continents, North and South America. In fact, 10k years ago when they came
> here the ENTIRE population of the earth was 1 million.
>
The North American aboriginals were very offended over the DNA-based science
that proved how they originated in Asia and crossed the ice bridge in Russia /
Alaska, migrating south.

It was "heresy" to them.
 
In article <MPG.20810eda2415c838989a63@news.datemas.de>, Ted
<tedwilliams@aol.com> wrote:

> Avenger avenger@avengers.co.uk said:
> > Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights were
> > enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say this.
> >
> Then why, has there never been a supreme court ruling in favor of the right
> to
> keep and bear arms?

Jews like Brandeis and Frankfurter.


--Tim May
 
<editor@netpath.net> wrote in message
news:1175927827.352724.149350@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Get real. At least 7/8 of Jews in America live in core urban Blue
> Nation - and much more reflect the leftist politics of that area than
> its politics reflect theirs. Is Catholic Ted Kennedy any less anti-
> gun than Jewish Feinswine?

NY is mostly country and a lot of people own firearms. NYC is a tiny part of
NYS where 1/2 the population lives. Even there a lot of people own firearms.
>
> No $4 to park! No $6 admission! http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com
>
 
"MajorHart" <majorhart@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1175912718.807173.240530@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> IT's because most of those people are white and jews HATE white
> people.
>
> I've debated at least 350 jews on USA Sovereignty and Border Security
> and every one to the last person has been for open borders and letting
> the hordes come in. Also if we had guns we might be able to repel the
> invaders. Got to get them guns out.
>
>
Sure you have. And they all wear swazstikas as well?
 
"Tie" <tiberiusrex@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.208108ef1c98a97b989a5d@news.datemas.de...
> Tim May timcmay@removethis.got.net said:
> > Gypsies and
> > Jews are very closely related.
> >
> That's what Hitler said too.

That's what a LOT of people have said, and it doesnt make it any less true.

--
========================================

NRA Patron, GSSA Life, recovering Republican
If you're not catching flak, you're not over the target.
========================================
 
ubermutant webmasta@whatsamattayou.edu said:
> "Tie" <tiberiusrex@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.208108ef1c98a97b989a5d@news.datemas.de...
> > Tim May timcmay@removethis.got.net said:
> > > Gypsies and
> > > Jews are very closely related.
> > >
> > That's what Hitler said too.
>
> That's what a LOT of people have said, and it doesnt make it any less true.
>
Only White Prodestants have a right to exist.

Literacy has polluted people's minds, making them hate the truth.

That's why people have fallen for Jewish lies.

www.nsm88.com www.americannaziparty.com www.kkk.com
www.k-k-k.com
 
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 03:14:21 -0400, Ted <tedwilliams@aol.com>
wrote:

>Avenger avenger@avengers.co.uk said:
>> Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights were
>> enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say this.
>>
>Then why, has there never been a supreme court ruling in favor of the right to
>keep and bear arms?

Because the Supreme Court, like the Pope, is not infallible.

--
Robert Sturgeon
Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
 
Robert Sturgeon rsturge@inreach.com said:
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 03:14:21 -0400, Ted <tedwilliams@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Avenger avenger@avengers.co.uk said:
> >> Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights were
> >> enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say this.
> >>
> >Then why, has there never been a supreme court ruling in favor of the right to
> >keep and bear arms?
>
> Because the Supreme Court, like the Pope, is not infallible.
>
>


Of course, only gunloons are infallible.


But why did the gun loon say the supreme court supported it?

Another gunloon lie? Or just another gunloon myth?
 
"Samurai Dreams" <SamuraiDreams6474@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Robert Sturgeon rsturge@inreach.com said:
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 03:14:21 -0400, Ted <tedwilliams@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Avenger avenger@avengers.co.uk said:
> > >> Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights
were
> > >> enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say
this.
> > >>
> > >Then why, has there never been a supreme court ruling in favor of the
right to
> > >keep and bear arms?
> >
> > Because the Supreme Court, like the Pope, is not infallible.
> >
> >
>
>
> Of course, only gunloons are infallible.
>
>
> But why did the gun loon say the supreme court supported it?
>
> Another gunloon lie? Or just another gunloon myth?
>

Historical fact, not myth or lie. The supreme court HAS ruled on RKBA. The
US v. Miller decision, among others, did in fact affirm RKBA applied to
individuals and that it specifically protected militarily-useful weapons.

Interestingly enough, the court went so far as to say that the military
aspects of a weapon do serve the basis for determining whether possession of
that particular weapon is protected by the second amendment. By logical
extension, Zumbo's sporting rifles would be more likely to be determined 'at
risk' of exposure under the second that my Garands, M14s and of course, ARs.

Obviously you didnt' know that, and your willingness to sound off in spite
of your ignorance shows what a complete ass you really are.

b.

--
========================================

NRA Patron, GSSA Life, recovering Republican
If you're not catching flak, you're not over the target.
========================================
 
On 6 Apr 2007 11:04:32 -0700, "MarVel" <uz4n4kz02@sneakemail.com>
wrote:

>
>In addition to that below, Jews have funded and run most
>anti-RTKBA organizations. Their plans for globalist dictator-
>ship cannot be implemented so long as patriotic Americans
>have the means to resist - as guaranteed them by the
>Founders.
>
>
>Jews and U.S. Gun Control Legislation, 1968-Present
>
>Note: this webpage is a work-in-progress. More information will be
>added later. This information shows that, contrary to some claims,
>Jews have sponsored or co-sponsored most modern anti-gun legislation.
>
>
>
>1968: The Gun Control Act of 1968 comes from Jewish Rep. Emanuel
>Celler's House bill H.R. 17735. It expands legislation already
>attempted by the non-Jewish Sen. Thomas Dodd. America's biggest and
>most far-reaching gun law came from a Jew [1].
>
>1988: Senate bill S. 1523 is sponsored by Jewish Senator Howard
>Metzenbaum. It proposes legislation turning every violation of the Gun
>Control Act of 1968 into a RICO predicate offense, allowing a gun
>owner to be charged with federal racketeering offenses.
>
>1988: Senator Metzenbaum co-sponsors a bill -- S. 2180 -- to ban, or
>limit/restrict, so-called "plastic guns."
>
>1990: Jewish Senator Herbert Kohl introduces bill S.2070, the Gun-Free
>School Zones Act of 1990, which bans gun possession in a school zone.
>The law will later be struck down in court as unconstitutional.
>
>1993: Senate bill S.653 is sponsored by Sen. Howard Metzenbaum. It
>bans specific semiautomatic rifles, but also gives the Secretary of
>the Treasury the power to add any semiautomatic firearm to the list at
>a later date.
>
>February, 1994: The Brady Law, which requires waiting periods to buy
>handguns, becomes effective. Senator Metzenbaum wrote the Brady Bill.
>Metzenbaum sponsored the bill in the Senate. The sponsor of the bill
>in the House was Jewish Rep. Charles Schumer [2].
>
>1994: Senator Metzenbaum introduces S.1878, the Gun Violence
>Prevention Act of 1994, aka "Brady II." Rep. Schumer sponsored "Brady
>II" sister legislation [H.R. 1321] in the U.S. House of
>Representatives.
>
>September, 1994: The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of
>1994 goes into effect, including a provision that bans the manufacture
>and possession of semiautomatic rifles described as "assault weapons."
>[Note: true assault weapons are fully automatic, not semiautomatic].
>That gun-ban provision was authored in the Senate by Jewish Senator
>Dianne Feinstein and authored in the House by Congressman Schumer.
>
>1995: Jewish Senators Kohl, Specter, Feinstein, Lautenberg and others
>introduce the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1995, an amended version of
>the 1990 school-zone law which was struck down in court as being
>unconstitutional.
>
>September, 1996: The Lautenberg Domestic Confiscation provision
>becomes law. It is part of a larger omnibus appropriations bill. It
>was sponsored by Jewish Senator Frank Lautenberg. It bans people
>convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence from ever owning a gun.
>
>1997: Senate bill S. 54, the Federal Gang Violence Act of 1997,
>proposes much harsher sentences for people violating minor gun laws,
>including mandatory prison sentences and forfeiture of property. It
>was introduced by Dianne Feinstein and a non-Jewish Senator [Hatch],
>among others. It returns the idea of turning every violation of the
>Gun Control Act of 1968 into a RICO predicate offense.
>
>January, 1999: Jewish Senator Barbara Boxer introduces bill S.193, the
>American Handgun Standards Act of 1999.
>
>January, 1999: Senator Kohl introduces bill S.149, the Child Safety
>Lock Act of 1999. It would to require a child safety lock in
>connection with transfer of a handgun.
>
>February, 1999: Senator Frank Lautenberg introduces bill S.407, the
>Stop Gun Trafficking Act of 1999.
>
>February, 1999: Senator Lautenberg introduces S.443, the Gun Show
>Accountability Act of 1999.
>
>March, 1999: Senator Lautenberg introduces bill S.560, the Gun
>Industry Accountability Act of 1999.
>
>March, 1999: Senator Feinstein introduces bill S.594, the Large
>Capacity Ammunition Magazine Import Ban Act of 1999.
>
>May, 2000: Senate bill S. 2515, Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale
>Act of 2000, is submitted by Senators Feinstein, Senator Barbara
>Boxer, Sen. Lautenberg and Sen. Schumer. It is a plan for a national
>firearms licensing system.
>
>January, 2001: Senate bill S.25, Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale
>Act of 2001, is sponsored by Feinstein, Schumer, and Boxer. It is a
>nation-wide gun registration plan [apparently there were two versions
>of that Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act bill].
>
>May, 2003: Senators Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer and others introduce
>legislation that would reauthorize the 1994 federal assault weapons
>ban, and, close a loophole in the law that allows large-capacity
>ammunition magazines to be imported into the U.S. The ban is scheduled
>to expire in September, 2004.
>
>October, 2003: Senators Feinstein, Lautenberg, Levin [also Jewish] and
>Schumer co-sponsor bill S.1774, designed to stop the sunset [ending]
>of the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988.
>
>March, 2005: Senator Lautenberg introduces bill S.645, "to reinstate
>the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act," in
>other words, to reinstate the 1994 assault-rifle ban [also known as
>the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994"] which
>expired in late 2004.
>
>March, 2005: Senator Feinstein introduces bill S.620, "to reinstate
>the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act," in
>other words, to reinstate the 1994 assault-rifle ban [also known as
>the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994"] which
>expired in late 2004.
>
>[1] Celler's bill as the base or foundation of the Gun Control Act of
>1968: Here or Here
>http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/lopez/5thcir.htm
>http://www.guncite.com/journals/hardfopa.html#fn102
>
>
>[2] a long list of the anti-gun bills sponsored by Schumer, Here
>[footnote #36]
>http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Healey1.htm

Check the list of businesses that officially support gun
control posted her by Patriot Games. Then check how many of them are
owned by Jews (few, if any). An asshole is an asshole, be he Jewish or
Gentile. You want to simplify everything by making everything that's
wrong the fault of the Jews. There's a terrible price to pay if you
were to be successful. It wasn't Jewish criminals that ruined Germany;
Gentile criminals did that.
 
Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:

> the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.

There are about 1.5 BILLION muslums in the world. There are about 10
million Jews, 5 million in Israel. There are plenty of places the
Palestianians could go. Why the hell do they need that tiny strip of
desert?

> I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
> imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.

To plunder the land for it's non-existant natural resorces i'll bet.

> Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
> citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
> agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
> the United States.
>
> How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
> each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
> roll.
>
> Lg

More unarmed people died in ONE year of Hitler's death camps than have
died in the entire history of civilian gun crime in the US. If they
really wanted to fight crime in the US they'd take the cable TV out of
prison cells. If they do ban guns, there's likely to be mass
non-compliance, as indicated by the massive amount of buying that went
on in gun shows prior to Clinton's gun ban. What would flooding our
courts with "gun crimes" do to crime in general?
 

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