NO EVIDENCE OF GODS

rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

> On Mar 16, 8:08 am, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:
> > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > >> I'd like you to send a copy to Jesse Ventura.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > OK. ?Give me his address.
> > > > > Robert B. Winn
> >
> > > > If you really love god, you'll look it up.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > I just don't feel inspired to do it.
> >
> > Why do you hate God?
>
> Jesse Ventura is not God, and I do not hate him in any event.

Reading comprehension really isn't your strong suit, is it?

Sheesh...


> If you want to give me his address, I will send him a Bible.

Why don't you just put a copy in the mail and trust your God to deliver
it to the right place?

Or do you mistrust your God, as well as hating him?
 
rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

> > > > We've heard your lame argument that "Stalin was an atheist and he killed
> > > > millions of people" countless times before. It doesn't stand up.
> > > > Stalin's atheism had nothing to do with his motives, he didn't kill in
> > > > the name of atheism--unlike the nineteen hijackers.
> >
> > > Well, I think he did. What about abortion doctors? They have killed
> > > about 60,000,000 Americans since 1973. Are you saying that they do
> > > not do what they do in the name of atheism?
> >
> > No, of course they don't.
> >
> > Do you have any conception (no pun intended) that other people can have
> > different opinions about issues like abortion without being atheists or
> > doing things "in the name of atheism" (whatever that means)? Abortion is
> > a safe and legal medical procedure, and is done at the request of the
> > woman seeking medical attention. Your moral posturing contributes
> > nothing to the discussion.
> >
> > Your figure of 60,000,000 abortions in the US since 1973 is too high by
> > at least a factor of two; if you're going to quote statistics, please be
> > a little more accurate.
> >
> > And finally, we're not talking about "Americans" any more than you could
> > describe unborn fetuses as "truck drivers" or "golfers" or "Dixie Chicks
> > fans". They're FETUSES, they aren't people. I'm not sure where you come
> > up with such kooky descriptions (actually, I am pretty sure where you
> > come up with such kooky descriptions.)
> >
> > If this is the level of your debating skills, then we have little
> > further to talk about.
>
>
> We have nothing to talk about. I use words with their actual
> meanings, not with meanings given to them by atheists.

The word "fetus" is a precise, specific term--unlike the many nonsense
religious terms created solely to inflame emotions over the abortion
issue.


> The fact that atheists can say that unborn children are not human beings
> means nothing to me.

Actually, the law says that "unborn children" (there's one of those
nonsense terms) are not human beings.


> I can tell that they are human beings.

Actually, I'd bet you can't.
 
On Mar 15, 5:57 am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> How could I be rejecting any atonement when I don't know if it ever occurred!
>
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1173926624.857336.118180@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 14, 6:43?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Why did you ask that? Do you think that there is reason to think so?
> > Do you have the evidence to back up!
> > Reference to unsubstantial claims in books are not accepted!
>
> Well, if you reject the atonement of Christ, you are also going to
> reject anything I might say to you.
> Why don't you discuss it with Jesus Christ when he returns to judge
> the earth?

You will have to work out your salvation with God, not me. I have no
way to save anyone. Jesus Christ is the one with a plan of salvation.
Robert B. Winn
> Robert B. Winn
 
On Mar 15, 6:58 am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 6:43?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Why did you ask that? ?Do you think that there is reason to think so?
> > > Do you have the evidence to back up!
> > > Reference to unsubstantial claims in books are not accepted!
>
> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:1173835556.418159.261710@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Why do you have no reason to think it exists? ? You think God did not do his part?
> > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Well, if you reject the atonement of Christ, you are also going to reject anything I might say to you.
> > Why don't you discuss it with Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the earth?
>
> Because he isn't real and won't return, that's why.

Well, tell your idea to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the
earth. It means nothing to me.
Robert B. Winn
 
rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

> On Mar 17, 6:13 am, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:
> > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 15, 5:55?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > How do you know that the father of Jesus is GOD!
> >
> > > Jesus Christ said that he was the Son of God.
> >
> > My crazy Uncle Harold claimed HE was the Son of God, just before they
> > institutionalized him.
> >
> > Small world, I guess...
>
> You did not have a crazy Uncle Harold who said he was the Son of God.

Actually, yes, I do...

And the point, of course, is that claiming to be the Son of God and
mental illness are connected. The medical literature is full of such
cases.

It could well be that Jesus was just like my poor uncle.
 
On Mar 15, 7:07 am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 6:52?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Mar 13, 12:10?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > On Mar 13, 8:03?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mar 12, 4:59?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Then who lied?
>
> > > > > > > > The people who accuse Jesus Christ of lying lied.
>
> > > > > > > Really. ?So who is still alive that was there listening to Jesus when
> > > > > > > he said "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which
> > > > > > > shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
> > > > > > > kingdom." (Matthew 16:28)?
>
> > > > > > John 21:20 ?Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus
> > > > > > loved following: which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said,
> > > > > > Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
> > > > > > 21 ?Peter seeing him saith unto Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man
> > > > > > do?
> > > > > > 22 ?Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is
> > > > > > that to thee? ?follow thou me.
>
> > > > > So your response is to dodge the question, because you can't admit
> > > > > Jesus lied.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > Jesus Christ did not lie. ?The Apostle John is still somewhere on earth.
>
> > > Your objective, verifiable evidence for that assertion?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Well, give me your address, and I will send you a copy of the Bible.
>
> I have several already. Unfortunately for you, the bible is not
> evidence the bible is true.

If you atheists want to pretend that the Bible does not exist it is.
Since say you have several Bibles, then you are admitting that the
Bible exists.
Robert B. Winn
Robert B. Winn
 
rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

> On Mar 15, 5:55 am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > How do you know that the father of Jesus is GOD!
> >
> Jesus Christ said he was the Son of God.

Claiming to be the Son of God is a symptom of mental illness. Don't you
know that?
 
On Mar 15, 7:13 am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 7:04?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Mar 13, 4:35?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > On 12 Mar 2007 21:15:38 -0700, in alt.atheism
> > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > > > > <1173759337.896438.204...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > > > > >On Mar 12, 5:22?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:54:56 +0800, in alt.atheism
> > > > > >> "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > > > > >> <et4p7h$n4...@registered.motzarella.org>:
>
> > > > > >> >It is not that I do not want to accept, but like to see jesus being crucified. so can you make the
> > > > > >> >necessary arrangements.
>
> > > > > >> >"rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >> >news:1173737798.798364.161660@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > >> >> On Mar 12, 2:11?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> > So is anyone saved by the atonement?
>
> > > > > >> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > >> >> >news:1173723597.337466.251030@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > >> >> > > There would be no way anyone who sinned could be saved if the
> > > > > >> >> > > atonement had not happened.
> > > > > >> >> > > Robert B. Winn
> > > > > >> >> > > On Mar 12, 9:03?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> > > > How do you know that the sins were atoned?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > >> >> Those who accept the atonement of Christ will be saved. theists say
> > > > > >> >> they will not accept the atonement of Christ.
>
> > > > > >> Do they? I certainly don't say that. It would be interesting for you to
> > > > > >> present a statement from an atheist showing that the atheist would
> > > > > >> reject such a thing.
>
> > > > > >> I don't believe the claims of people about gods because the claims are
> > > > > >> unsupported by evidence.-
>
> > > > > >Well, how do you accept the atonement of Christ without admitting he exists?
>
> > > > > The claim that there is such an atonement is one of the claims about
> > > > > gods that is unsupported by the evidence.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > Well, so you reject the atonement of Christ, just as I said in the beginning.
>
> > > If by "atonement of christ" you mean "unsupported assertion," then yes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Well, obviously words in the English language have no meaning to you.
> > Why don't you quote some Latin phrases? I am sure that would make you
> > feel better.
>
> Aw, punkin, don't pout.

Well, just take your time and show how you get that atonement of
Christ means unsupported assertation from anything I said. If you
want to advertise your ignorance and dishonesty, go advertise it to
someone else. I am not interested in how dishonest and ignorant you
are.
Robert B. Winn
 
On Mar 15, 7:15 am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 7:10?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Mar 13, 6:10?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > On 13 Mar 2007 17:51:48 -0700, in alt.atheism
> > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > > > > <1173833508.636582.7...@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:
> > > > > >On Mar 13, 4:35?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > >> On 12 Mar 2007 21:15:38 -0700, in alt.atheism
> > > > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > > > > >> <1173759337.896438.204...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
> > > > > >> >On Mar 12, 5:22?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> I don't believe the claims of people about gods because the claims are
> > > > > >> >> unsupported by evidence.-
>
> > > > > >> >Well, how do you accept the atonement of Christ without admitting he exists?
>
> > > > > >> The claim that there is such an atonement is one of the claims about
> > > > > >> gods that is unsupported by the evidence.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > >Well, so you reject the atonement of Christ, just as I said in the beginning.
>
> > > > > No, I do not reject it. I merely have no reason to think it exists.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > Why do you have no reason to think it exists?
>
> > > Lack of objective, verifiable evidence. ?This has been explained to
> > > you numerous times; it isn't a difficult concept for most people.
>
> > > > You think God did not do his part?
>
> > > Please provide objective, verifiable evidence of this "god" you assert.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > OK, I can send you a copy of the Bible. Where should I send it?
>
> I asked for objective, verifiable evidence, not circular reasoning.

I offered to send a copy of the Bible. That would be accepted as
evidence in any court of law. Since you do not accept it, we can
plainly see that you are only multiplying words, not carrying on a
conversation.
Any book can be entered as evidence in a court of law. It is then up
to the side that enters the evidence to show how it is evidence. So
far your only comment concerning the Bible is that you will not accept
it as evidence. That is the same as saying it does not exist. Sorry
to have to be the one to tell you this, but the Bible does exist.
Robert B. Winn
 
On Mar 15, 7:25 am, jesshc <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 6:10?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> What were written, were they written correctly?
>
> > Well, what do you think was written incorrectly?
> > Robert B. Winn
>
> Are bats birds? Where did the light come from before there were stars?

Why don't you get some biologists and astronomers and discuss it with
Moses after the resurrection? I am sure he could tell you how those
particular verses came to be. As far as I can tell, they could be
mistranslations made by some Old Testament scribe.
Robert B. Winn
 
On Mar 15, 7:29 am, jesshc <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Mar 12, 2:11?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> So is anyone saved by the atonement?
>
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1173723597.337466.251030@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> There would be no way anyone who sinned could be saved if the
> >>> atonement had not happened.
> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >>> On Mar 12, 9:03?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> How do you know that the sins were atoned?- Hide quoted text -
> > Those who accept the atonement of Christ will be saved. Atheists say
> > they will not accept the atonement of Christ.
> > Robert B. Winn
>
> Atheists say "Why should we accept your unsupported assertions which
> contradict reality?"

Well, it would be up to you what you accept. I offered to send you a
copy of the Bible and you said you would not accept that. Jesus
Christ offered to accept the punishment for your sins, and you said
you would not accept that. Why don't you just decide for yourself
what you are going to accept? If you change your mind about the
Bible, let me know.
Robert B. Winn
 
On Mar 15, 7:35 am, jesshc <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Mar 10, 6:11?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Mar 9, 12:11?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Mar 8, 8:07?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mar 7, 4:25?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Theists are also inventive. ?Can you deny that theist invented god!
> >>>>>>> God is eternal.
> >>>>>> Unsupported assertion.
> >>>>> Wrong. ?God sent his Only Begotten Son.
> >>>> Circular argument.
> >>> It is not an argument.
> >> Yes, it is. ?You should learn was an argument is.
>
> >>> It is a fact.
> >> No, it isn't. ?You should learn what a fact is.
>
> >>> Sorry you disapprove of what God did.
> >> There is no evidence for any deities. ?Therefore, there is no evidence
> >> any deities ever did anything. ?I can hardly disapprove of what a non-
> >> existent thing couldn't have done; it would be pointless. ?I can,
> >> though, point out your delusions, lies, and hypocrisies.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Well, I certainly have no objection to your practicing what you intend
> > to say to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the earth. Evidently
> > your idea is that if you can convince me of something then it will
> > work on Jesus Christ.
>
> I assume you aren't a fictional character, but I could be wrong.

Well, if you want to try to convince me that I am a fictional
character, go ahead and try. You say you are going to use that logic
on Jesus Christ.
 
Pastor Frank <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in alt.atheism

> Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
>> rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>>>>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism

>>>>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven.
>>>>>> Where's heaven? Outer space?
>>>> > Where there is no sin.

>>>> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right?

>>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ
>>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness.

>> Jesus is gonna kill people?

> Jesus will be your defender, ...but only if you want Him to. He will not
> force your into His heaven.

What will he defend me against?

--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
 
Is others belief is what you are going to use to justify your belief?

"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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> "Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
> news:aerbv2t4fu5gcq3juhe9lhodsf5mdad6m4@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:59:38 +0800, in alt.atheism
> > "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Mother1@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > <et4pgb$nee$1@registered.motzarella.org>:
> >>Then who lied?
> >>"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1173736219.690065.4540@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> > On Mar 12, 4:14?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> > How do you know that that was not a lie?
> >>
> >>Well, go ahead and point. Jesus Christ did not lie.
> >
> > We have no idea if any of the claims made in the gospels are true.
> > We have no idea what Jesus actually said.
> > We have no idea whether Jesus had anything to do with any god or not.
> > We have no idea whether you have interpreted what is written correctly.
> >
> Is that what you are going to use to justify your disbelief? I.e. "I had
> no idea" that almighty God exists, and actually is going to judge us all.
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
 
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:20:48 +0800, in alt.atheism
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in
<45fb10d5$0$16367$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:
>"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>news:aerbv2t4fu5gcq3juhe9lhodsf5mdad6m4@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:59:38 +0800, in alt.atheism
>> "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Mother1@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> <et4pgb$nee$1@registered.motzarella.org>:
>>>Then who lied?
>>>"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1173736219.690065.4540@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>> > On Mar 12, 4:14?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > How do you know that that was not a lie?
>>>
>>>Well, go ahead and point. Jesus Christ did not lie.
>>
>> We have no idea if any of the claims made in the gospels are true.
>> We have no idea what Jesus actually said.
>> We have no idea whether Jesus had anything to do with any god or not.
>> We have no idea whether you have interpreted what is written correctly.
>>
> Is that what you are going to use to justify your disbelief? I.e. "I had
>no idea" that almighty God exists, and actually is going to judge us all.

I don't have to justify my 'disbelief'. The mere fact that you cannot
justify your beliefs is sufficient for me not to accept your claims
about gods or religion.
 
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 06:41:34 +0800, in alt.atheism
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in
<45fb10d8$0$16367$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:
>"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>news:5jrbv2p5117684jph7pbgk44t71rbgtv6r@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:54:56 +0800, in alt.atheism
>> "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Mother1@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> <et4p7h$n4c$1@registered.motzarella.org>:
>>>It is not that I do not want to accept, but like to see jesus being
>>>crucified. so can you make the
>>>necessary arrangements.
>>>"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1173737798.798364.161660@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Mar 12, 2:11?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> > news:1173723597.337466.251030@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>>>> > > Robert B. Winn
>>>> > > On Mar 12, 9:03?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com>
>>>> > > wrote:
>>
>>>> > > > How do you know that the sins were atoned?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> >>>> > > There would be no way anyone who sinned could be saved if the
>>>> > > atonement had not happened.
>>
>>>> >So is anyone saved by the atonement?
>>>>
>>>> Those who accept the atonement of Christ will be saved. Atheists say
>>>> they will not accept the atonement of Christ.
>>
>> Do they? I certainly don't say that. It would be interesting for you to
>> present a statement from an atheist showing that the atheist would
>> reject such a thing.
>>
>> I don't believe the claims of people about gods because the claims are
>> unsupported by evidence.
>>
> What "claims" are you talking about? Or are you just misreading and
>miss-interpreting what is in essence poetic licence, NOT scientific
>exposition?

There is no evidence to support any special claims about any gods.
 
But how could I save Jesus if he does not reveal himself to me?

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 15, 5:57 am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > How could I be rejecting any atonement when I don't know if it ever occurred!
> >
> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1173926624.857336.118180@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 14, 6:43?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Why did you ask that? Do you think that there is reason to think so?
> > > Do you have the evidence to back up!
> > > Reference to unsubstantial claims in books are not accepted!
> >
> > Well, if you reject the atonement of Christ, you are also going to
> > reject anything I might say to you.
> > Why don't you discuss it with Jesus Christ when he returns to judge
> > the earth?
>
> You will have to work out your salvation with God, not me. I have no
> way to save anyone. Jesus Christ is the one with a plan of salvation.
> Robert B. Winn
> > Robert B. Winn
>
>
 
Is that not hear say?

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 15, 5:55 am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > How do you know that the father of Jesus is GOD!
> >
> Jesus Christ said he was the Son of God.
> Robert B. Winn
>
 
Agreed! I think it was the Son of God that claimed to be his uncle!

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 17, 6:13 am, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:
> > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 15, 5:55?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > How do you know that the father of Jesus is GOD!
> >
> > > Jesus Christ said that he was the Son of God.
> >
> > My crazy Uncle Harold claimed HE was the Son of God, just before they
> > institutionalized him.
> >
> > Small world, I guess...
>
> You did not have a crazy Uncle Harold who said he was the Son of God.
> Robert B. Winn
>
 
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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> "Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
> news:5jrbv2p5117684jph7pbgk44t71rbgtv6r@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:54:56 +0800, in alt.atheism
>> "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Mother1@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> <et4p7h$n4c$1@registered.motzarella.org>:
>>>It is not that I do not want to accept, but like to see jesus being
>>>crucified. so can you make the
>>>necessary arrangements.
>>>"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1173737798.798364.161660@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Mar 12, 2:11?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> > news:1173723597.337466.251030@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>>>> > > Robert B. Winn
>>>> > > On Mar 12, 9:03?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com>
>>>> > > wrote:
>>
>>>> > > > How do you know that the sins were atoned?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> >>>> > > There would be no way anyone who sinned could be saved if the
>>>> > > atonement had not happened.
>>
>>>> >So is anyone saved by the atonement?
>>>>
>>>> Those who accept the atonement of Christ will be saved. Atheists say
>>>> they will not accept the atonement of Christ.
>>
>> Do they? I certainly don't say that. It would be interesting for you to
>> present a statement from an atheist showing that the atheist would
>> reject such a thing.
>>
>> I don't believe the claims of people about gods because the claims are
>> unsupported by evidence.
>>
> What "claims" are you talking about? Or are you just misreading and
> miss-interpreting what is in essence poetic licence, NOT scientific
> exposition?

Gee............... here's one ...... "God is Love".
 

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