NO EVIDENCE OF GODS

[Mettas Mother]

Because it is entertaining!

"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Mar 7, 12:32?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:
> > > Mettas Mother wrote:
> > > > Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!
> > >
> > > ?>
> > > No evidence of absence is ever required in any case. The burden of proof
> > > cannot be shifted to the non-believers.
> > >
> > > The only reasonable default presumption in any case like this is the
> > > null, 'NO ET,' 'NO GOD' no whatever.
> > >
> > > http://www.setileague.org/articles/setihoax.htm
> > >
> > > http://www.setileague.org/editor/null.htm
> >
> > Have you considered this verse from Isaiah?
> > Isaiah 4:6 And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the
> > daytime from the heat, and for a place of refuge , and for a covert
> > from storm , and from rain.
>
> Please provide a rational, legitimate reason for any atheist to
> consider any quote from your book of mythology as anything other than
> part of your mythology.
>

 

[JessHC]

Mistylien wrote:
> "stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in message
> news:wsidnZhOtZCvRHDYnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@ptd.net...
> > Michael Gray wrote:
> >> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:44:18 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> - Refer: <WIudndB4R9rhWXDYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@ptd.net>
> snip<
>
> >>> Are you trying to say that
> >>> you can read Hebrew?
> >>
> >> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes.
> >>
> >>> Can you speak Aramaic as well?
> >>
> >> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion.
> >>
> >>> I heard Benny Hinn does.
> >>
> >> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless
> >> con-artist.
> >> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for
> >> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the
> >> dollar.
> >> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer.
> >>
> >
> > Can God speak Chinese?
>
> God is the giver of all languages.
>
> Have you ever heard of the Tower of Babble?

Have you ever heard "it's just a story"?

> It was God that confused their languages and gave some one language
> and other a differnt one so they could not even comunicate and keep on trying
> to buld the towser that the top could even reach into heaven.

So god was afraid that a building might reach heaven, but he's got no
problem with people going into space?

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 7, 12:09?am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:53:34 -0800, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (ScottRichter) wrote:
> >
> > ? - Refer: <1hukpsp.1pxrmuu1t335k3N%scottrichter...@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> > > Why don't you explain it to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the
> > >> > > earth?
> >
> > >> > That's so adorable! You think some guy who lived 2000 years ago (if he
> > >> > existed at all) is going to "return to judge the earth"? It's just too
> > >> > cute for words!
> >
> > >> > No, wait... You're an ADULT, right? Hmmm, scratch what I said, it's not
> > >> > cute at all, it's just ridiculous.
> >
> > >> Well, Scot, I would not be the one to discuss your idea with. ?Why
> > >> don't you take an opportunity to discuss it with Jesus Christ after he
> > >> returns to judge the earth?
> >
> > >Like I said, a grown man saying these things: ridiculous.
> >
> > >Here's a tip, Skippy. For a threat to work, the person at whom the
> > >threat is directed has to believe the threat is real. Otherwise, you
> > >come across like a four year old child trying to scare his parents by
> > >claiming a monster is in the closet.
> >
> > >Does any of this make sense to you?
> >
> > Too many big words.
> > Too much threatening reality.
> > Too much sanity for pathetic little Bobby.
> >
> You sound like an atheist searching for a verse from Isaiah.

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 7, 12:07 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:07:51 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net>
> > wrote:
> > - Refer: <19idnSxmGoq1RXDYnZ2dnUVZ_qmpn...@comcast.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Michael Gray wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:13:03 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> - Refer: <j6SdnbyJ15LcQXHYnZ2dnUVZ_uXin...@comcast.com>
> > >>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>> On Mar 5, 11:48?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
> > >>>>> On 4 Mar., 17:21, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >>>>>>news:1173018520.978855.246000@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
> > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 12:05?am, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> "Scott Richter" <scottrichter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>> snip
> >
> > >>>>>>> Matthew 10:14
> > >>>>>>> And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye
> > >>>>>>> depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
> > >>>>>> Christians who do not heed this verse are in violation of the very
> > >>>>>> faith they profess. There is no Biblical authorization to "shove ones
> > >>>>>> religion down the throat of another person". An atheist who wants
> > >>>>>> a defense against over-bearing proselytizers should be able to
> > >>>>>> point to this verse as a defense
> > >>>>> We have, and, just like you and the inane champion of the world
> > >>>>> (little Winn), they ignore it.
> > >>>> Well, as I told you before, that was Christ's instruction to his
> > >>>> twelve apostles. I am not an apostle.
> > >>>> I am just an ordinary person quoting verses from Isaiah.
> > >>>> Robert B. Winn
> >
> > >>> Logical fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis:
> >
> > >>> "An ad hoc hypothesis is one created to explain away facts that seem to
> > >>> refute one's theory." -- http://skepdic.com/adhoc.html
> >
> > >> One has to actually have a theory in the first place.
> > >> Bobby has only crazed schizophrenic ramblings.
> >
> > >He has a 'theory' [using the term very loosely] that he is not bound by
> > >instructions in his manual to beat a speedy retreat from alt.atheism.
> > >The facts seem to refute his theory. That's why he resorts to the
> > >logical fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis, to try to explain away the facts
> > >that seem to refute his theory.
> >
> > >Now he resorts to another one, that the term, 'ad hoc' is not an
> > >acceptable English term. Go figure.
> >
> > I have figured.
> > He is clinically insane.
> >
> > The prosecution rests, m'lud.
> >
> That one has already been tried. So what is your theory, that mental
> patients are provided with computers nowadays?

Why not? Even mental patients can get email.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 6, 11:06?pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > On 6 Mar 2007 14:32:53 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com>
> > wrote:
> > ? - Refer: <1173220373.586251.210...@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com>

> > >So you think it's a good idea to deliberately disobey orders straight
> > >from your deity. ?How's that working out for you?
> >
> > The nurses tighten his jacket straps tomorrow.
> >
> Well, here we have people from medical science claiming to be my
> diety. Atheists are nothing if not inventive.

That's an unfortunate comprehension problem you've got. Too much
medication, or not enough?

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 6, 10:57?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:
> > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Latin is a dead language used by people who have nothing to say.
> >
> > > > > > Much like quoting from the Bible...
> >
> > > > > Well, Jesus Christ said, Search the scriptures, for in them ye think
> > > > > ye have eternal life.
> >
> > > > You've long since proven you have nothing to say. No need to provide any
> > > > more evidence, little fella...
> >
> > > Well, I don't need to have anything to say. ?
> >
> > Well, then "Mission Accomplished"...
>
> Oh, I see. You were on a mission. How did that come about?

Have one of your attendants teach you how to read.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 6, 10:53?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:
> > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > > Why don't you explain it to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the
> > > > > earth?
> >
> > > > That's so adorable! You think some guy who lived 2000 years ago (if he
> > > > existed at all) is going to "return to judge the earth"? It's just too
> > > > cute for words!
> >
> > > > No, wait... You're an ADULT, right? Hmmm, scratch what I said, it's not
> > > > cute at all, it's just ridiculous.
> >
> > > Well, Scot, I would not be the one to discuss your idea with. ?Why
> > > don't you take an opportunity to discuss it with Jesus Christ after he
> > > returns to judge the earth?
> >
> > Like I said, a grown man saying these things: ridiculous.
> >
> > Here's a tip, Skippy. For a threat to work, the person at whom the
> > threat is directed has to believe the threat is real. Otherwise, you
> > come across like a four year old child trying to scare his parents by
> > claiming a monster is in the closet.
> >
> > Does any of this make sense to you?
>
> Nothing any atheist has ever said to me made any sense. You are no
> exception.

That explains so much about you.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 6, 8:40?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:
> > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > Why don't you explain it to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the
> > > earth?
> >
> > That's so adorable! You think some guy who lived 2000 years ago (if he
> > existed at all) is going to "return to judge the earth"? It's just too
> > cute for words!
> >
> > No, wait... You're an ADULT, right? Hmmm, scratch what I said, it's not
> > cute at all, it's just ridiculous.
>
> Well, Scot, I would not be the one to discuss your idea with. Why
> don't you take an opportunity to discuss it with Jesus Christ after he
> returns to judge the earth?

It's much easier to discuss things with people who actually exist,
even if they're irrational.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 6, 8:40?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:
> > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > It's all a part of his deliberate, intentional, willful, and
> > > > self-imposed ignorance.
> >
> > > So what is it that you claim I am ignorant of?
> >
> > I'd say.... almost everything.
> >
> > But, hey, I'm just going on what you write. Maybe you're a lot smarter
> > than you sound...
>
> Why does it matter how I sound to atheists?

Two reasons I can think of off the top of my head:

1. You're posting to alt.atheism.
2. You aren't the only theist who thinks the way you do.

 

[JessHC]

Mettas Mother wrote:
> Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

It certainly can be. However, my point was that absense of evidence
is evidence of absense of evidence.

> However that does not automatically mean the contrary is true!

Is that why you're top posting?


> "JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1173221471.180043.130960@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > The claim of a lack of evidence is proved by the lack of evidence. It
> > is you trying to shift the burden of proof.
> >

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 6, 3:52?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Mar 5, 1:27?am, "Richo" <m.richard...
> >
> > > > Cheers, Mark.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > Well, what about this scripture from Isaiah, Mark? ?Have you
> > > considered this scripture?
> > > Isaiah 3:25 ?Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the
> > > war.
> >
> > Have you considered you're just making an ass of yourself?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> I have never considered that.

That's too bad, but not surprising.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 6, 3:49?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Mar 4, 7:15?pm, "Richo" <m.richard...@utas.edu.au> wrote:
> > > > On Mar 4, 6:05 pm, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > "Scott Richter" <scottrichter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > > >news:1hue729.pr88setfk8njN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
> >
> > > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > No Evidence of God?? Is this a claim?
> >
> > > > Yes.
> >
> > > > > If so, whose responsibility
> > > > > is ?proof?
> >
> > > > Anybody can prove it wrong at any time by presenting evidence.
> > > > Nobody can ever prove it correct.
> >
> > > > > ?I would contend there is no way to prove such a
> > > > > claim, therefore, the claimant would likely attempt to shift the
> > > > > responsibility to those whom he considers his opponents.
> >
> > > > "The claim cannot be proved - so therefore it is the claiments
> > > > responsibility to prove it."
> > > > That doesn't sound at all logical to me - forcing the impossible onto
> > > > a party as an obligation.
> >
> > > > Cheers, Mark.
> >
> > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible, Mark?
> >
> > Would you like someone to buy you a clue?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> I have no need of anything from you, thanks anyway.

You prove otherwise.

> Well, why don't I just quote a verse from Isaiah?

Because it's irrelevant, that's why. Which appears to be your
unfortunate forte.

> That way you can say you have read a verse from the Bible.

Oops, sorry, beat you to it.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 6, 3:48?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Mar 4, 7:02?pm, "jl" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > On Mar 4, 7:18 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Mar 4, 3:59?pm, "jl" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > ?[...]
> > > > > Well, if Darrell Stec read his 30 Bibles, why didn't he know anything
> > > > > about them? ?The same question applies to you. ?I'll tell you what, I
> > > > > will quote a verse from Isaiah, and then you can say you have read a
> > > > > verse from the Old Testament.
> > > > > Isaiah 3:23 ?The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the
> > > > > vails.
> > > > > Robert B. Winn
> >
> > > > Poor Winnie. ?No need for the Tower of Babel to tie his tongue. ?The
> > > > thing is in a knot.
> >
> > > > Huh? ?What's this, Winnie, about the glasses and the fine linen? ?Some
> > > > kind of masonic ritual or are you a Mormon Klanster, a wizard under
> > > > the sheets?
> >
> > > > Time to go now, Winnie. ?James Cameron is putting on his show about
> > > > all those bones he found in the coffins of Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Mary
> > > > Magdalen, and Judah, son of Jesus. ?Tune in: ?Discovery Channel at 9.
> > > > EST.
> >
> > > Why are all atheists buying into this hoax? ? I thought atheists did
> > > not believe in Jesus Christ.
> > > Isaiah 3:24 ?And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell
> > > there shall be stink, instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well
> > > set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth;
> > > and burning instead of beauty.
> >
> > Not believing in deities doesn't mean people named Jesus don't exist.
> > If you lived in the real world, you'd know that.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> So why are you pretending that you have found the tomb of the Jesus
> Christ who was crucifed and resurrected?

You should read the part of the bible where it tells you lying is a
sin.

Exodus 20:16
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Exodus 23:1
Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the
wicked to be an unrighteous witness.

Proverbs 19:9
A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies
shall perish.

 

[Mettas Mother]

Such an evidence is only partially useful and could not be a complete answer to the question.

"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1173274459.635185.146090@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mettas Mother wrote:
> > Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!
>
> It certainly can be. However, my point was that absense of evidence
> is evidence of absense of evidence.
>
> > However that does not automatically mean the contrary is true!
>
> Is that why you're top posting?
>
>
> > "JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1173221471.180043.130960@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > The claim of a lack of evidence is proved by the lack of evidence. It
> > > is you trying to shift the burden of proof.
> > >
>

 

[Mettas Mother]

Why false witness is a sin ? Why can't the blessed judiciary with the help of god administer
justice without the help of witnesses?

"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1173274940.070251.259310@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>
> You should read the part of the bible where it tells you lying is a
> sin.
>
> Exodus 20:16
> Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
>
> Exodus 23:1
> Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the
> wicked to be an unrighteous witness.
>
> Proverbs 19:9
> A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies
> shall perish.
>

 

[jl]

On Mar 7, 6:42 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Mar 7, 12:32?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:
>
> > Mettas Mother wrote:
> > > Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!
>
> > ?>
> > No evidence of absence is ever required in any case. The burden of proof
> > cannot be shifted to the non-believers.
>
> > The only reasonable default presumption in any case like this is the
> > null, 'NO ET,' 'NO GOD' no whatever.
>
> >http://www.setileague.org/articles/setihoax.htm
>
> >http://www.setileague.org/editor/null.htm
>
> Have you considered this verse from Isaiah?
> Isaiah 4:6 And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the
> daytime from the heat, and for a place of refuge , and for a covert
> from storm , and from rain.
> Robert B. Winn

Oh, my Winnie, is that the tabernacle where a girl from a non-mormon
family goes in to be "sealed" and married to a mormon boy, and her
parents can't even attend the wedding, excluded from the temple like
they are vermin? That's pretty shitty, I think. At least when the
Catholics make the non-Catholic convert in order to marry a Catholic,
everybody gets to go to the wedding.

Your religion ought to have a cable-tow cinched around its neck and
thrown into the depths of the ocean.

 

[jl]

On Mar 7, 8:18 am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> Mistylien wrote:
> > "stumper" <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote in message
> >news:wsidnZhOtZCvRHDYnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@ptd.net...
> > > Michael Gray wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:44:18 -0500, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> - Refer: <WIudndB4R9rhWXDYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vn...@ptd.net>
> > snip<
>
> > >>> Are you trying to say that
> > >>> you can read Hebrew?
>
> > >> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes.
>
> > >>> Can you speak Aramaic as well?
>
> > >> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion.
>
> > >>> I heard Benny Hinn does.
>
> > >> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless
> > >> con-artist.
> > >> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for
> > >> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the
> > >> dollar.
> > >> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer.
>
> > > Can God speak Chinese?
>
> > God is the giver of all languages.
>
> > Have you ever heard of the Tower of Babble?
>
> Have you ever heard "it's just a story"?
>
> > It was God that confused their languages and gave some one language
> > and other a differnt one so they could not even comunicate and keep on trying
> > to buld the towser that the top could even reach into heaven.
>
> So god was afraid that a building might reach heaven, but he's got no
> problem with people going into space?

That's an original tall tale. Matter of fact, that's where the tall
tale came from--- Tall Tower of Babel. Winn fell off and landed on
his head.

I've enjoyed the Isaiah, though, especially that wild technicolor
hallucination in Isaiah 6 with the madcap UFO hovering in the temple,
and God on his golden throne and all the six-winged angels, and the
fire burning on the altar, and the angel flying down to Isaiah and
burning the piss out of him with an ember from the fiery altar.

It doesn't seem right to me. To burn the crap out of somebody you're
consecrating to be your emissary here on earth and to predict the
coming of Christ? That's no way to honor somebody to scorch his mouth
with fire!

Winnie, how would you like it for me to take a hot sizzling torch and
burn your face with it? Or would it be any less painful if an angel
administered the torture?

It's a really fascinating scene, worthy of a writer eating psychedelic
mushrooms or smoking some powerful hashish. Only thing that doesn't
fit is the angel having to use tongs to carry the flaming ember. If
an angel is immortal why can't he just carry the red-hot ember in his
hand? Or beam it down from his comfortable chair by ol' Jehovah.

Well, as Shakespeare, the great bard, has said, there are more things
in heaven and earth than are known to thy philosophy. But I got a
feeling Shakespeare thought Christianity was a big farce too. He
spent more time with Paganism in his plays than with Christianity.

 

[Scott Richter]

rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

> > > > > Why don't you explain it to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the
> > > > > earth?
> >
> > > > That's so adorable! You think some guy who lived 2000 years ago (if he
> > > > existed at all) is going to "return to judge the earth"? It's just too
> > > > cute for words!
> >
> > > > No, wait... You're an ADULT, right? Hmmm, scratch what I said, it's not
> > > > cute at all, it's just ridiculous.
> >
> > > Well, Scot, I would not be the one to discuss your idea with. ?Why
> > > don't you take an opportunity to discuss it with Jesus Christ after he
> > > returns to judge the earth?
> >
> > Like I said, a grown man saying these things: ridiculous.
> >
> > Here's a tip, Skippy. For a threat to work, the person at whom the
> > threat is directed has to believe the threat is real. Otherwise, you
> > come across like a four year old child trying to scare his parents by
> > claiming a monster is in the closet.
> >
> > Does any of this make sense to you?
>
> Nothing any atheist has ever said to me made any sense. You are no
> exception.

Aww, don't pout, little fella, just because someone hurt your feelings.
When adults talk, sometimes they disagree.

This isn't one of those times.

We all agree that what you are saying is ridiculous. Jesus is not
returning to judge the earth, no matter how strongly you wish it. It's
no more real than that monster in the closet.

When expressed by children, such beliefs are cute and harmless. When
expressed by an adult, they are ridiculous, and in some cases, downright
troubling. You really should take a cold, hard look at yourself in the
mirror and decide whether you are an adult, or simply a child in an
adult's body.

 

[JessHC]

Mettas Mother wrote:

Please stop top posting

> "JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1173273176.499928.288000@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Please provide a rational, legitimate reason for any atheist to
> > consider any quote from your book of mythology as anything other than
> > part of your mythology.
>
> Because it is entertaining!

No, what's entertaining is pointing out the gaping holes in logic
theists keep stumbling into. Doesn't mean we have to take the
mythology seriously.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> I was denied trial by jury, more than once.

Not every trial goes to a jury. Too bad.

> Are you trying to say I was not?

Who cares?