NO EVIDENCE OF GODS

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 13, 12:21?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Mar 13, 4:53?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
> >
> > > > > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
> > > > >>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > >>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
> > > > >>>>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
> > > > >>>>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven.
> > > > >>>>>> Where's heaven? Outer space?
> > > > >>>> > Where there is no sin.
> > > > >>>> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right?
> > > > >>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ
> > > > >>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness.
> > > > >> Jesus is gonna kill people?
> > > > > Malachi 4:1 ?For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven:
> > > > > and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble,
> > > > > and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts,
> > > > > that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
> >
> > > > So Jesus is gonna burn up all the bad people?
> >
> > > The bad people are all going to burn up. ?Sorry to have to be the one
> > > to tell you this. ?I think you should be paying more attention to
> > > former vice-President Al Gore.
> > > Now, you say that you are going to blame Jesus for this event. ?Why
> > > don't you discuss it with him after he returns to judge the earth?
> >
> > Better yet, why don't you cite the atheist you claim is going to blame
> > a fictional character for anything.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> Why would an atheist treat a fictional character different from the
> way they treat other people?

Because fictional characters aren't real. Please don't dodge again;
please cite the atheist you claim is going to blame a fictional
character for anything, or admit you're lying.

> Atheists never do anything but blame other people.

Please specify an atheist who does this, or admit you're lying.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> No, I am not an atheist.

You've proven that; atheists are honest, and you aren't.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 13, 12:10?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Mar 13, 7:33?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
> >
> > > > > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
> > > > >>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > >>>> Jesus is gonna kill people?
> > > > >>> Malachi 4:1 ?or, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven:
> > > > >>> and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble,
> > > > >>> and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts,
> > > > >>> that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
> > > > >> So Jesus is gonna burn up all the bad people?
> > > > > The bad people are all going to burn up.
> >
> > > > What will Jesus be doing at that time? ?Stoking the fires?
> >
> > > Why don't you take it up with him?
> >
> > Explain how one can do that with an imaginary character.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> Well, if you believe he is imaginary, why did you ask if he was
> stoking fires?

Learn to read.

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 13, 12:10?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Mar 13, 8:03?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > On Mar 12, 4:59?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Then who lied?
> >
> > > > > The people who accuse Jesus Christ of lying lied.
> >
> > > > Really. ?So who is still alive that was there listening to Jesus when
> > > > he said "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which
> > > > shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
> > > > kingdom." (Matthew 16:28)?
> >
> > > John 21:20 ?Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus
> > > loved following: which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said,
> > > Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
> > > 21 ?Peter seeing him saith unto Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man
> > > do?
> > > 22 ?Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is
> > > that to thee? ?follow thou me.
> >
> > So your response is to dodge the question, because you can't admit
> > Jesus lied.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> Jesus Christ did not lie. The Apostle John is still somewhere on earth.

Your objective, verifiable evidence for that assertion?

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 13, 4:35?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On 12 Mar 2007 21:15:38 -0700, in alt.atheism
> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > <1173759337.896438.204...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >On Mar 12, 5:22?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:54:56 +0800, in alt.atheism
> > >> "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > >> <et4p7h$n4...@registered.motzarella.org>:
> >
> > >> >It is not that I do not want to accept, but like to see jesus being crucified. so can you make the
> > >> >necessary arrangements.
> >
> > >> >"rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > >> >news:1173737798.798364.161660@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > >> >> On Mar 12, 2:11?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > So is anyone saved by the atonement?
> >
> > >> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >> >> >news:1173723597.337466.251030@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > >> >> > > There would be no way anyone who sinned could be saved if the
> > >> >> > > atonement had not happened.
> > >> >> > > Robert B. Winn
> > >> >> > > On Mar 12, 9:03?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > > > How do you know that the sins were atoned?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >> >> Those who accept the atonement of Christ will be saved. theists say
> > >> >> they will not accept the atonement of Christ.
> >
> > >> Do they? I certainly don't say that. It would be interesting for you to
> > >> present a statement from an atheist showing that the atheist would
> > >> reject such a thing.
> >
> > >> I don't believe the claims of people about gods because the claims are
> > >> unsupported by evidence.-
> >
> > >Well, how do you accept the atonement of Christ without admitting he exists?
> >
> > The claim that there is such an atonement is one of the claims about
> > gods that is unsupported by the evidence.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> Well, so you reject the atonement of Christ, just as I said in the beginning.

If by "atonement of christ" you mean "unsupported assertion," then yes.

 

[Elroy Willis]

Pastor Frank <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in alt.atheism

> rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism

>>> You don't have to figure it out. The example of how to pray was given
>>> by Jesus Christ. It starts, Our Father Which art in Heaven.

>> Where's heaven? Outer space?

> Where there is no sin.

> Heaven is wherever Jesus Christ says it is. See below. "Outer space
> indeed!!!!!

> Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when
> the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom
> of God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo
> there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU."

Doesn't the Bible say Jesus "ascended" into heaven? He's supposed to
be sitting at the right hand of his father, up there in heaven.

--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com

 

[JessHC]

rbwinn wrote:
> On Mar 13, 6:10?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On 13 Mar 2007 17:51:48 -0700, in alt.atheism
> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > <1173833508.636582.7...@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:
> > >On Mar 13, 4:35?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >> On 12 Mar 2007 21:15:38 -0700, in alt.atheism
> > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > >> <1173759337.896438.204...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
> > >> >On Mar 12, 5:22?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >> >> I don't believe the claims of people about gods because the claims are
> > >> >> unsupported by evidence.-
> >
> > >> >Well, how do you accept the atonement of Christ without admitting he exists?
> >
> > >> The claim that there is such an atonement is one of the claims about
> > >> gods that is unsupported by the evidence.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >Well, so you reject the atonement of Christ, just as I said in the beginning.
> >
> > No, I do not reject it. I merely have no reason to think it exists.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> Why do you have no reason to think it exists?

Lack of objective, verifiable evidence. This has been explained to
you numerous times; it isn't a difficult concept for most people.

> You think God did not do his part?

Please provide objective, verifiable evidence of this "god" you assert.

 

[Elroy Willis]

rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism

<snip>

> Well, no, I am not an idiot. I was in New Orleans in 1971. It was a
> wicked place then.

What was so wicked about it?

--
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www.elroysemporium.com

 

[Jeff Whittaker]

On 13 Mar 2007 17:46:23 -0700, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

>On Mar 13, 3:56?pm, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>> > On Mar 13, 11:22?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:
>> >> Richo wrote:
>>
>> >>> The vast majority of things humans believe they do so without "proof"
>> >>> - but that doesnt make the beliefs foolish or unreasonable.
>> >> That may be the doctrine in your religion, but not everyone agrees with
>> >> you. For instance:
>>
>> >> "The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without
>> >> evidence." -- Thomas Huxley, Evolution and Ethics
>>
>> > Evidence does not work on atheists.
>>
>> >
>> I am atheist and evidence works on me. So what you say is false, Bob.
>> >> They only acknowledge evidence
>> > which they believe supports their philosophy.
>> > Robert B. Winn
>>
>> Don't be stupid, Bob. That's the theist MO.
>
>I am not stupid. Atheists only acknowledge evidence that they believe
>supports their philosophy. Well, let's check you out.
> w = velocity of light
> x=wt
> x'=wt'
> gamma= 1/sqrt(1-v^2/w^2)
>
> w = x/t = x'/t' = (x-vt)gamma/(t-vx/w^2)gamma = (x-
>vt)/(t-vt/w)
>
> If you acknowledge these equations, you will be the first
>atheist to do so. We can go to other subjects if you like. What else
>would you like to discuss?
>Robert B. Winn

Well, Bobby, usually when one presents a series of equations, it is
usually nice to define what all the variables are and what you are
trying to prove.

See, I can use crappy math to prove that 1=2

Assume a=b
Multiply both sides by a: a a=a b => a^2=ab
Add the same amount (a^2) to both sides of the equation:
a^2 + a^2=ab + a^2
Simplify: 2a^2=ab + a^2
Subtract the same amount (2ab) from both sides of the equation:
2a^2 - 2ab=ab + a^2 - 2ab
Simplify: 2a^2 - 2ab=a^2 - ab
Factor left side: 2(a^2 - ab)=a^2 - ab
Cancel (a^2 - ab) from both sides gives: 2=1

However, my 'proof' fails cause it divides by zero at the end. I'm not
enitely sure what your formula is trying to 'prove', but without more
information, it's just a string of nonsense that doesn't tell me
anything. And apparently you are just cutting and pasting it from the
same retarded source each time because every time I've seen you post
it, it's always indented by the exact same, irritating amount.

 

[Darrell Stec]

After serious contemplation, on or about Wednesday 14 March 2007 10:09
am Elroy Willis perhaps from elroywillis@swbell.net wrote:

> Pastor Frank <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in alt.atheism
>
>> rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>
>>>> You don't have to figure it out. The example of how to pray was
>>>> given by Jesus Christ. It starts, Our Father Which art in Heaven.
>
>>> Where's heaven? Outer space?
>
>> Where there is no sin.
>
>> Heaven is wherever Jesus Christ says it is. See below. "Outer space
>> indeed!!!!!
>
>> Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when
>> the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The
>> kingdom of God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say,
>> Lo here! or, lo there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN
>> YOU."
>
> Doesn't the Bible say Jesus "ascended" into heaven? He's supposed to
> be sitting at the right hand of his father, up there in heaven.
>


The Kingdom of God and heaven are two separate things. The Kingdom of
God was a social construct, a way of interacting with one's fellow
human beings. Fundies do not understand that.

So in a way, Joshua took the Kingdom of God with him when he assended
into heaven. Besides fairy tales are not necessarily consistent nor
logical. The Lord of the Rings was unique in that regard. The
philosophy described therein would make a much better religion that
Christianity.

--
Later,
Darrell Stec darstec@neo.rr.com

Webpage Sorcery
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[Darrell Stec]

After serious contemplation, on or about Wednesday 14 March 2007 4:34 am
ZenIsWhen perhaps from hereslooking@you.com wrote:

>
> "Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:1sodv21e8422lftiutaevgkuboo0bhdcik@4ax.com...
>> ZenIsWhen <hereslooking@you.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>>> rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
>>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Jesus is gonna be like those who kept the ovens at the Nazi
>>>> concentration camps burning. Quite a nice loving god he's got
>>>> there, don't you think?
>>
>>> Well, you atheists accuse God or Jesus Christ of murder every time a
>>> natural event or a death of any kind takes place.
>>
>> Looks like ZenIsWhen is the same person as rbwinn. Go figure...
>>
>> Need two liars for Jesus instead of one, eh boobie?
>
> Huh?
> I have no idea what's going on here - but I didn't write any of this.
> I DEMAND an apology for that grotesque insult.
>

It is you quoting style. It is confusing. When you quote someone it
appears as though you were posting the material. Why not use the
universally accepted ">" in your posts? It will eliminate a lot of
confusion on the part of those who read your posts.

>
>>
>> --
>> Elroy Willis
>> www.elroysemporium.com

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[Scott Richter]

rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

> > > > > Why don't ?ask Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the earth?
> >
> > > > Because he isn't real.
> >
> > > Well, if you really believe that, the best thing to do would just be
> > > to tell him what you think when the time comes.
> >
> > That's so adorable, you still remember those fairy tales you learned as
> > a young child! You still hope Jesus is coming to save you! You still
> > believe you'll meet Jesus--in heaven! That's just so sweet...
> >
> > ...in an eight year old.
>
> Well, it is certainly wonderful to see how the Lord is softening your
> heart.

You want a friend, get a dog. I'm not here to soften my heart nor to
soften yours.

I'm here to change the conversation, to openly talk about a serious
subject: the dark side of religious beliefs.

Your belief that Jesus is "coming back" is a perfect example. On one
level, it is nothing more than a child's fairy tale (and it most
certainly IS that). But on another level it is a serious issue, because
people who claim to believe Jesus is coming back act differently than
those who don't:

"James Watt told the U.S. Congress that protecting natural resources was
unimportant in light of the imminent return of Jesus Christ. In public
testimony he said, 'after the last tree is felled, Christ will come
back.'" (Bill Moyers report).

People who believe they will be rewarded in some sort of afterlife act
differently than those who don't. We saw that in the starkest possible
terms on 9/11, which was a wakeup call for the entire planet about the
dangers of religious beliefs.

Since 9/11, religious beliefs have increasingly torn America apart.
America's reaction to religious extremism has been its own religious
extremism, fueled by money and technology, complete with ready-made
antagonists like homosexuals and women's rights supporters (and above
all, of course, atheists.) America's worst enemies aren't hiding in a
cave in Afghanistan, they wear expensive suits and spin tales of
intolerance to millions every Sunday morning.

We see the extreme violence Islamic beliefs cause, yet still resist
looking at ourselves in a mirror. We utter meaningless phrases like "war
on terror", when what it actually is is a "war on Islam". However, we
don't call it a war on Islam, because that phrase opens the door to the
war we should actually be fighting: a war on religion.

A war on religion, a war on superstitious beliefs. I know that sounds
extreme, but religion and freedom are antithetical concepts,
fundamentally incompatible, as we witness nearly every day with the
assault on the Constitution by our own Bible-soaked government. Religion
is the natural enemy of freedom.

There's a name for that period of history when Christianity dominated
western civilization. That name is the Dark Ages. And today it is
religious zealots like you--forcing religious nonsense into classrooms,
shoving the Ten Commandments into courtrooms, proclaiming America to be
a Christian nation--it is pinheads like you who have only hardened my
heart.

 

[Peace]

As a Hindu, I agree with the statements about the age of the universe, the age of the world, and the insignificance of the Human race.

To begin with, it

 

[Fred Stone]

scottrichter422@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote in
news:1huwo4c.j0j4tspl4syaN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com:

> I'm here to change the conversation, to openly talk about a serious
> subject: the dark side of religious beliefs.
>
> Your belief that Jesus is "coming back" is a perfect example. On one
> level, it is nothing more than a child's fairy tale (and it most
> certainly IS that). But on another level it is a serious issue,
> because people who claim to believe Jesus is coming back act
> differently than those who don't:
>
> "James Watt told the U.S. Congress that protecting natural resources
> was unimportant in light of the imminent return of Jesus Christ. In
> public testimony he said, 'after the last tree is felled, Christ will
> come back.'" (Bill Moyers report).
>

Scott, I appreciate your zeal, but you need to choose a better example:
Moyers apologized to Watt for repeating that lie about what he said.
Didn't you know that?

http://peacecorpsonline.org/messages/messages/467/2028218.html


--
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aa# 1369
"The one thing we must not do is to confuse the real country of Iraq,
where there is a real war, a real population, and a real obligation to
protect them, with the parallel-universe "quagmire Iraq" of popular
imagination."

 

[Pastor Frank]

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote:
>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>
>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven.
>
>>> Where's heaven? Outer space?
>
>> Where there is no sin.
>
> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right?
>
Wrong! See below

Pastor Frank

Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when
the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom of
God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo
there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU."



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[Pastor Frank]

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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> "H. Wm. Esque" <HEsque@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:5veIh.2541$nV1.636@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> A few years ago I subscribed to newsgroups, but quickly became
>> disenchanted and left the groups. I was hoping this "Christian"
>> newsgroup would be different.
>
> What christian newsgroup is that. There are several newsgroups listed in
> the header.
>
"Different" in which way? Christians are those who follow Christ, and
Christ talked to sinners and publicans. He even talked to those who hated
Him enough to kill Him.
Had Christ talked only to His disciples, as so many Christians only want
to talk to their church choir and minister, Christ could have avoided
crucifixion.
This public forum therefore is not for the faint, nor those who want to
play it safe.



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[Pastor Frank]

"Sippuuden" <sipp@macrosoft.net> wrote in message
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> Pastor Frank wrote:
>> "Gospel Bretts" <bretts1967@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:nju8v21tm5bdm6432gpfhdupdlfsfmp0tc@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:10:30 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
>>> <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote:
>>>> "Sippuuden" <sipp@macrosoft.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:y5edna5NbpcM93PYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> Mettas Mother wrote:
>>>>>> Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!
>>>>> No evidence of absence is ever required in any case. The burden of
>>>>> proof
>>>>> cannot be shifted to the non-believers.
>>>>> The only reasonable default presumption in any case like this is the
>>>>> null,
>>>>> 'NO ET,' 'NO GOD' no whatever.
>>>>> http://www.setileague.org/articles/setihoax.htm
>>>>> http://www.setileague.org/editor/null.htm
>>>>>
>>>> You won't meet up with any argument from us theists. We all agree
>>>> with
>>>> you, that the god(s) of atheist definition are guaranteed not to exist.
>>>> But
>>>> then there are millions who have their very own existing concrete
>>>> god(s)
>>>> they pray to and make offerings to. And others have abstract gods: I.e.
>>>> our
>>>> Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) whom we serve, ...to the death
>>>> if
>>>> need be.
>>> Is that all God is, then, Frank? Love?
>>> Gospel Bretts
>>> a.a. atheist #2262
>>> Fundy Xian Atheist
>>>
>> That's what our Christian NT Bible says, and we believe it. But also
>> Christ demonstrated His love by laying down His innocent life on our
>> behalf and taking it up again.
> Oh, he was revived? How is it a sacrifice then if he did not actually die?
> Sacrifice entails actually killing an animal. Your religious beliefs don't
> make sense, old son.
>
We believe Jesus actually died and resurrected, and that is why He is
our God incarnate. I'm sure you wouldn't want a god who was limited to do
only, what Satan allowed Him to do, would you now?
Furthermore, if religion were "to make sense" it wouldn't require belief
and faith, it would be enough to merely acknowledge fact, and religion would
be reduced to knowing those facts.



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[Pastor Frank]

"Sippuuden" <sipp@macrosoft.net> wrote in message
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> JessHC wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Mar 11, 5:42?pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:15:22 -0700, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net>
>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>> That isn't what characterizes atheism, moron, "Atheism is
>>>>> characterized
>>>>> by an absence of belief in the existence of gods."
>>>>> --http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/intro.html
>>>>> Even you should be able to grasp that.
>>>> He does grasp it.
>>>> He is desperately thrashing about for attention.
>>>
>>> Well, what I do is study atheists because I have nothing better to
>>> do. The problem with your idea is that attention from an atheist is
>>> always an adverse incident.
>>
>> So why are you here, begging for attention from atheists?
>
> Obviously he is a masochist, someone who obtains pleasure from being
> spanked.
> wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>
Why are you trying so hard to be a trashing and flaming buffoon in our
pristine and hallowed Christian NGs?



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[Pastor Frank]

"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
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> On 2007-03-12 14:35:11 +0000, "JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> said:
>> Pastor Frank wrote:
>>>
>>> Jesus Christ evidenced God by giving His life on the cross of Calvary
>>> for us sinners and not for His own benefit, nor for anyone virtuous or
>>> perfect, nor famous or deserving.
>>
>> That's nice, except it's only a story; it didn't really happen.
>
> You were there? You have evidence to back that assertion?
>
It's atheists doctrine, that only theists need to evidence their
assertions.



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[Pastor Frank]

"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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> rbwinn wrote:
>> On Mar 12, 9:39?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
>> > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>> > > On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote:
>> > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>> > >>> Our Father Which art in Heaven.
>> > >> Where's heaven? Outer space?
>> > > Where there is no sin.
>> >
>> > So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right?
>> >
>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ
>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness.
>
> And there will be sugar plum fairies and cotton candy clouds.
>
Not for you Jess. Have you got your asbestos suit ready yet?



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