Obama remark on black scholar's arrest angers cops

[ImWithStupid]

I can't help it I ain't a **** **** like the rest of y'all.

It's OK, I've seen your type a hundred times. Just like Bill Ayers. Cryin' about the police, bombing police stations but when a Fox News cameraman and producer are outside your home, you call the cops to keep them away.

Whatever. A party or cutting down trees with a chainsaw. Same thing. You ***** about a peace officer upholding the peace, but it's different when it comes to your neighbors barking dog.

 

[ImWithStupid]

Once again, all the officer had to do was leave. It is not like he was called because Gates was causing a disturbance. The officer was the only provocation. All he had to do was leave.

And once again as supplemented by many people, that's exactly what the officer was trying to do, when Gates insisted on violating the law he was arrested for, a law that has been repeatedly upheld as being Constitutional.

Fukkstik Gates committed a valid statutory offense and was arrested for such.

Your rights only go as far as they don't infringe on the rights of someone else.

Believe me, I've been in Crowley's position many times. I've had several 150 lb dip s, tell me they would kick my *** if I weren't a cop. I usually tell them that my badge is the only thing stopping me from stomping a mudhole in their ***.

I'm sorry, but just because you are a public worker, doesn't mean you have to eat **** from the public.

There are several offices in our court house who say they are always dealing with people coming in and cursing them out about their vehicle taxes or their property taxes, etc...

I tell them all the time to tell the Hugos of the world that when they can come back and be civil, they will deal with them and that they should leave. If they don't call over to have one of us deal with them and make them leave.

Doormat isn't in my job description.

 

[hugo]

It's OK, I've seen your type a hundred times. Just like Bill Ayers. Cryin' about the police, bombing police stations but when a Fox News cameraman and producer are outside your home, you call the cops to keep them away.
Whatever. A party or cutting down trees with a chainsaw. Same thing. You ***** about a peace officer upholding the peace, but it's different when it comes to your neighbors barking dog.

You are doing nothing now but engaging in unfounded personal attacks. I have never called the cops on anyone in my life. I think, by and large, government officials should stay out of peoples lives, unless there is a real public interest in taking action. The only one Gates was annoying was the cop, The arrest of Mr Gates served no public good. In fact, just the opposite. I call myself a libertarian because I think the government that governs best governs least. In this case Crowley leaving was the "least" government solution. Just because we all know talking **** to a cop can get ya thrown in the slammer does not mean it should be that way.

Y'all love big government, except when Democrats are proposing it. Let's just require everyone have a computer chip inserted so the government official can just wave a device over someone and have immediate access to all their personal information. Long live big government, screw the sanctity of your home.

 

[ImWithStupid]

The only one Gates was annoying was the cop, The arrest of Mr Gates served no public good. In fact, just the opposite. I call myself a libertarian because I think the government that governs best governs least. In this case Crowley leaving was the "least" government solution. Just because we all know talking **** to a cop can get ya thrown in the slammer does not mean it should be that way.

That's false. There are reports from the public that Gates' actions were alarming to those who were gathering. Read the law.

Sgt. Crowley upheld the peace, he even tried to warn Gates prior to taking any kind of action, but Gates thought he was above the law.

Talking **** to a cop won't get you thrown in jail. You are trying to paint the situation in a light that isn't accurate, just like your continued claims that he was arrested because he was a black man, or arrested in his own home. Not accurate. But good MSLSD style reporting. It sucks when the facts and the law get in the way though.

You're right, it shouldn't be that way, and it isn't nor is that the facts of what happened.

It doesn't matter how many times you say it TJ, I mean Hugo, it doesn't make it so.

 

[ImWithStupid]

way.
Y'all love big government, except when Democrats are proposing it.

You're the one who thinks it should be OK to kill a kid for smashing your garden gnome, not me.

 

[hugo]

You're the one who thinks it should be OK to kill a kid for smashing your garden gnome, not me.

Sadly, big government won't even let ya do that in Texas. Now if the kid is running off with the gnome that is another story.

 

[ImWithStupid]

Y'all love big government, except when Democrats are proposing it. Let's just require everyone have a computer chip inserted so the government official can just wave a device over someone and have immediate access to all their personal information. Long live big government, screw the sanctity of your home.

Yes. Arresting someone for disturbing the right to peace of another citizen, is the same as wanting to implant a chip in people.

My ***, did you come up with that sober? If so, you need to drink more.

Nope. Not big government. I'm against the RFI chips in new passports. I'm against a Federal ID, etc...

I don't think a racist ******* charging out of his house, causing alarm to people rises up to that level.

You must be related to TJ in how you determine the level of importance and severity.

i.e. my joke on holocaust and divorce and Ali's reference to TJ equating women manipulating men to the horrors of slavery.

 

[ImWithStupid]

Sadly, big government won't even let ya do that in Texas. Now if the kid is running off with the gnome that is another story.

We've gone over this before. The law lets you kill him if he is committing criminal mischief and you don't "believe" that unless you shoot him, he will be caught.

 

[hugo]

I don't think a racist ******* charging out of his house, causing alarm to people rises up to that level.

Have you seen images of Professor Gates? If he was alarming anyone they must be a in' wimp that needs to be deported for being too big a ***** to be an American.

 

[hugo]

We've gone over this before. The law lets you kill him if he is committing criminal mischief and you don't "believe" that unless you shoot him, he will be caught.

He has to be in the act of damaging the gnome, ya caint shoot him after he has finished, unless ya pull him back in the yard.

 

[ImWithStupid]

He has to be in the act of damaging the gnome, ya caint shoot him after he has finished, unless ya pull him back in the yard.

No, he can be running away, as long as you saw him do it, and you tell yourself that the only way he'll be caught is if I kill him.

 

[ImWithStupid]

No, he can be running away, as long as you saw him do it, and you tell yourself that the only way he'll be caught is if I kill him.

It seems I might be wrong. You can shoot the ******* for smashing the garden gnome if you catch him doing it, but he has to steal it for you to chase him down and shoot him off of his big wheel.

 

[hugo]

It seems I might be wrong. You can shoot the ******* for smashing the garden gnome if you catch him doing it, but he has to steal it for you to chase him down and shoot him off of his big wheel.

Now ya got it. Most people need to be killed anyways.

 

[hugo]

You ***** about a peace officer upholding the peace, but it's different when it comes to your neighbors barking dog.

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Image don't seem to be working at this time. I got a beagle, pretty much the loudest creature on the face of the planet. I ain't complainin' about no neighbor's barking dog.

 

[timesjoke]

The question is not valid to my position that in a free country an officer should not arrest a man in his own home when the officer could simply end the mans' "Disturbing of the peace" by leaving. The officer was not wrong for asking for other identification. That does not mean Gates should be arrested for not providing it. We still live in a free country where you do not have to have an "acceptable" ID on you, much less provide it. In fact, the officer was obviously satisfied that Gates was the legal resident since he was leaving the scene and only arrested Gates when Gates pursued the officer and verbally harranged him.
Yes, the officer was within his rights to ask for Gates ID. I am within my rights to ask the women of JustBS to send nude pics to my email address. They are not obligated to send them.

You Hugo, you said the officer instigated the issue and not Gates.

If the officer was doing his job to ensure the people in a home he had a possible breakin call for belonged there, why was it reasonable for Gates to start screaming at the officer in your mind?

Do you believe all police officers deserve this kind of treatment even when doing the right thing?

 

[hugo]

If the officer was doing his job to ensure the people in a home he had a possible breakin call for belonged there, why was it reasonable for Gates to start screaming at the officer in your mind?
Do you believe all police officers deserve this kind of treatment even when doing the right thing?

Never said Gates was acting reasonable. If failing to act reasonable is a jailable offense women got sumtin to worry about.

Of course, they don't deserve that treatment.

 

[timesjoke]

Never said Gates was acting reasonable. If failing to act reasonable is a jailable offense women got sumtin to worry about.
Of course, they don't deserve that treatment.

So just to recap:

1 - The officer was doing what he was supposed to be doing, responding to a possible breakin at a residence.

2 - The officer was not being irresponsible or unreasonable in asking to see identification with an address to ensure those in the home he responded to belonged there.

3 - Gates reacted in an unreasonable, insulting and disruptive way, exploding verbally at the officer non-stop for many minutes.

4 - The officer had departed Gates home and was attempting to leave when Gates continued to verbally assault the officer outside of his home.

5 - The officer warned Gates he was being disruptive in an attempt to get him to calm down.

6 - The officer arrested Gates.

7 - You hold the officer to blame.

I'm sorry but the gathered public and the Nation needed to see that even President's Obama's friends are subject to the law and when your screaming at the police just for doing their job that is unreasonable behavior and an attitude check is reasonable.

I find it interesting you refuse to apply any responsibility to people to maintain at least a small measure of self-control.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

I watched a couple COPS episodes this weekend and here are a few observations...

•The term "trailer trash" didn't just appear out of thin air.

•Perp's pants never fit

•There are plenty of minorities in prime time television.

•Bad teeth apparently cause criminal behavior

•So, apparently, do neck tattoos.

•What are the rules? Shut up. Once you start lying, police will probe more and catch you in more lies until finally you have the cuffs on and are sitting in the back of the car. Just identify yourself and say no more.

•Nobody ever has a clue as to how those drugs got into their pocket

•If you see a man driving with no shirt on, pull him over. He's a perp

•Sometimes, if you decline permission to search, police will persist and even tell you they don't need permission. They might say that if you say "no" that gives them probably cause to search anyway. Either way, say the answer is still no, you can't search it. If they go and do it anyway, don't interfere or the police will have a reason to arrest you for sure.

•Perps never clean their homes or wash dishes

•Street hookers are just flat-out ugly

 

[RoyalOrleans]

So just to recap:
1 - The officer was doing what he was supposed to be doing, responding to a possible breakin at a residence.

2 - The officer was not being irresponsible or unreasonable in asking to see identification with an address to ensure those in the home he responded to belonged there.

3 - Gates reacted in an unreasonable, insulting and disruptive way, exploding verbally at the officer non-stop for many minutes.

4 - The officer had departed Gates home and was attempting to leave when Gates continued to verbally assault the officer outside of his home.

5 - The officer warned Gates he was being disruptive in an attempt to get him to calm down.

6 - The officer arrested Gates.

7 - You hold the officer to blame.

I'm sorry but the gathered public and the Nation needed to see that even President's Obama's friends are subject to the law and when your screaming at the police just for doing their job that is unreasonable behavior and an attitude check is reasonable.

I find it interesting you refuse to apply any responsibility to people to maintain at least a small measure of self-control.

Jesus Christ...

Ever hear of beating a dead horse, TJ?

 

[timesjoke]

Jesus Christ...
Ever hear of beating a dead horse, TJ?

At least I am still on topic, lol.