Rare Commons

[azemkamikaze03]

Ok well do u know why it like...or how it got on my panel like that?

 

[nkramar78]

Ok well do u know why it like...or how it got on my panel like that?

No idea.

 

[Hyper]

you mean tiles? i thnk that's what's you're askin, idk, stupid thing wont lemme open the image, but yeah, ify ou're usin firefox, mousewheel + click, or right click open in new tab XD. i heart firefox.

 

[biohazardxero]

my list of shows:

AUDIO

07.24.00 - The Sapphire (Orlando, FL)

10.01.00 - Coca-Cola Lakewood Amphitheatre (Atlanta, GA)

10.03.00 - Super Toad Entertainment Center (Des Moines, IA)

10.31.00 - The Palace (Hollywood, CA)

12.17.00 - Universal Amphitheatre (Universal City, CA)

01.11.01 - Kings College (London, England)

02.03.01 - National Orange Show Events Center (San Bernadino, CA)

03.15.01 - Le Zenith (Paris, France)

03.20.01 - Brielpoort (Deinze, Belgium)

03.25.01 - Apollo Theatre (Manchester, England)

05.14.01 - Zepp Tokyo (Tokyo, Japan)

05.15.01 - IMP Hall (Osaka, Japan)

06.21.01 - Mile High Stadium (Denver, CO)

06.23.01 - Verizon Amphitheatre (Irvine, CA)

06.25.01 - Gorge Amphitheatre (George, WA)

06.30.01 - Blockbuster Pavilion (Devore, CA)

07.07.01 - HiFi Buys Amphitheatre (Atlanta, GA)

07.24.01 - The Docks (Toronto, Canada)

08.07.01 - Tweeter Center (Mansfield, MA)

08.09.01 - Jones Beach Amphitheatre (Wantagh, NY)

08.11.01 - PNC Bank Arts Center (Holmdel, NJ)

09.14.01 - BBC Maida Vale Studios (London, England)

10.23.01 - Pepsi Arena (Albany, NY)

11.03.01 - Ice Palace (Tampa, FL)

11.10.01 - Arrowhead Pond (Anaheim, CA)

11.17.01 - Tacoma Dome (Tacoma, WA)

02.08.02 - Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY)

02.12.02 - Patriot Center (Fairfax, VA)

02.18.02 - Fairgrounds Arena (Oklahoma City, OK)

02.20.02 - America West Arena (Phoenix, AZ)

02.27.03 - The Docks (Hamburg, Germany)

03.02.03 - Elysee Montmarte (Paris, France)

03.03.03 - Rock City (Nottingham, England)

03.18.03 - The Pageant (Saint Louis, MO)

03.23.03 - Warfield Theatre (San Francisco, CA)

07.26.03 - Hawthorne Racetrack (Chicago, IL)

08.10.03 - 3Com Park At Candlestick (San Francisco, CA)

10.22.03 - Osaka Castle Hall (Osaka, Japan)

10.25.03 - Nippon Budokan (Tokyo, Japan)

10.27.03 - Nippon Budokan (Tokyo, Japan)

10.29.03 - Olympic Gymnastic Gymnasium (Seoul, South Korea)

11.21.03 - MEN Arena (Manchester, England)

12.13.03 - Universal Amphitheatre (Universal City, CA)

01.23.04 - Bell Centre (Montreal, Canada)

01.29.04 - Allstate Arena (Chicago, IL)

02.14.04 - Memorial Coliseum (Portland, OR)

03.15.04 - Great Western Forum (Los Angeles, CA)

Notes

*47 total shows

*all shows in FLAC format

*shows in red are MP3-sourced

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VIDEO

xx.xx.xx - Roseland Ballroom (New York City, NY) [3 dates]

10.11.00 - Juke Joint (Springfield, MO)

11.11.00 - Best Buy Parking Lot (Westminister, CA)

02.15.01 - Metropol (Pittsburgh, PA)

04.27.01 - Bayfront Park Amphitheatre (Miami, FL)

06.03.01 - Rock-am-Ring 2001 (Nurburgring, Germany)

06.08.01 - Tweeter Center (Tinley Park, IL)

06.16.01 - Float Rite Park (Somerset, WI)

06.22.01 - Jones Beach Amphitheatre (Wantagh, NY)

07.25.01 - Blue Cross Arena (Rochester, NY) [2 angles]

10.13.01 - Xcel Energy Center (Saint Paul, MN)

10.20.01 - SkyDome (Toronto, Canada)

10.24.01 - Continental Airlines Arena (East Rutherford, NJ)

10.27.01 - The Centrum (Worcester, MA)

10.28.01 - HSBC Arena (Buffalo, NY) [2 angles]

07.05.03 - SkyDome (Toronto, Canada)

07.20.03 - Parc Jean Drapeau (Montreal, Canada)

07.27.03 - Metrodome (Minneapolis, MN) [angle #1]

07.27.03 - Metrodome (Minneapolis, MN) [angle #2]

07.27.03 - Metrodome (Minneapolis, MN) [2-camera mix]

08.22.03 - Reading Rivermead (Reading, England)

10.24.03 - Nippon Budokan (Tokyo, Japan)

10.25.03 - Nippon Budokan (Tokyo, Japan)

12.13.03 - Universal Amphitheatre (Universal City, CA) [VCD]

01.18.04 - Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY)

01.24.04 - Air Canada Centre (Toronto, Canada)

02.02.04 - World Arena And Ice Hall (Colorado Springs, CO) [16:9]

02.05.04 - Long Beach Arena (Long Beach, CA)

03.04.04 - Office Depot Center (Sunrise, FL)

06.06.04 - Rock-am-Ring 2004 (Nurburgring, Germany) [PAL]

09.03.04 - Coors Amphitheatre (Chula Vista, CA) [unauthored]

Notes

*35 total shows

*all shows in 4:3 NTSC DVD format with menus/chapters unless otherwise stated

*shows in orange are unauthored

 

[donbyers]

Right, Is This The List Of Shows You Eventually Plan To Give Away?

Maybe Me + Mark Could Donate A COUPLE Of Shows To Ur Plan, Thats If You Guys Keep Your Word About Limiting The Uploads

 

[Hybrid Soldier]

thats the list he has, we have a much bigger list

wait, does that mean your in?

 

[Vash_the_Stampede]

I think what he means is that his will help, just not fully, like other people.

 

[Hybrid Soldier]

either way, its better to have him for than against

 

[Hyper]

meh, here's a makeshift logo we could use...

 

[donbyers]

thats the list he has, we have a much bigger list
wait, does that mean your in?

did i read it wrong when u guys were talking about limited amount of shows being put up??

and i will never be "in" but if were gonna work on a deal then maybe i could help A BIT

 

[Hybrid Soldier]

limited ammount of shows at a time, for bandwidth issues

 

[donbyers]

nick was saying about putting a limited number of SHOWS up, so we can keep things rare, at the end of the day all these "common" shows come from the big traders and are filterd out thru the lp world, if we stop giving ANYTHING out then u guys will be starved out of shows, so we need to get along, for both sides benefit

 

[Hybrid Soldier]

well, ill let nick and those guys work out that kindve stuff, im not good at that

 

[donbyers]

yeh and plus no offense to you but i'd rather talk to nick about it anyways as i cant stand you

feelings prolly the same ur end but o well

 

[Cyro]

I agree fully with the common ground part. We must co-exist! We all may be aliens to each other but we can share the vast world of LP Media. I will remain a trader however. I'm with Jordan on the whole thing.

 

[donbyers]

thanks bob VV well at least there seems to be more voices of dis agreement poppin up, so maybe we can work on a deal now, as its not just me jeff and mark now

 

[Vash_the_Stampede]

Well guys, I have come to a conclusion about my involvement in this project.

I'm going to play this under a 25-75% mentality. The 25% is going to be here, & sharing, while the 75% is going to remain trading. Saying that, whatever I get in trades, I shall share no more than 25% of it.

Sorry for any dissapointment,

Vash

 

[nkramar78]

The way I see it, we need to try to fit every known show into a category... This is where it becomes a little tricky, but I'll give it a shot.

Audio/Video not allowed:

Addressed first because the last thing we want is to get anyone in trouble. This is anything copyrighted - audio, video, etc. that's available officially for sale. None of this should appear on anyone's tradelists. We all know we have some stuff that falls under that category, let's keep it out of circulation out of respect to the band and WB. Included, but not limited to official albums, DVD rips, LPU CDs, etc.

Common Shows:

These are the ones that have been on websites, P2P networks and even sold on eBay for some time now. Included, among others, would be RaR 01 and 04, Orlando 00, the Dragon Festival, Nottingham/Rock City 03, BBC Radio 1, MTV 2$ Bill Show, etc. - The one's we've all got and can pretty much see is on everyone's lists who trade. There should be no question as to the status of these... They should be shared in any format we have, solely based on the fact that people shouldn't be making money selling these when they've been available for free for quite some time.

Uncommon Shows/Rare Shows:

This is where it becomes tricky. Once I have a show, it's no longer rare to me but for someone who doesn't have it, my list becomes a target of a trade. This is where we need to clearly define what should be shared and what should be traded only. This is where we need to draw the lines and compromise on this.

My thought would be to gather any number of lists from random traders. If over half (a majority) have a show on their list (in any format), it should be elligible to be shared freely. If under half, trade only. Thoughts?

 

[Chesterchaz]

I just think for people who just wanna hear LP live, the very common shows are enough... like u (Nick) wrote (Detroit, Notthingham etc.). These are mostly even good-sounding (SBD) shows.

I thought about setting up a FileServer in mIRC... I would've shared some audio/video shows (I mean I will, just need a better internet connection). And, I think about 50, 75 or even more shows are kinda common...

But I dont really think shows like Tokyo Zepp 2001 need to be shared... I guess the leechers just donwload every show they can, they prolly dont care... And the guys who just wanna have/hear some LP live shows, it's fine for them with the common shows... (and the LP communtity had sites like linkin-inside, I think there was enough). I think it prolly makes more traders unhappy if they see these "rare" shows shared, maybe it was "hard work" to get them...

=> And I think, like Th30racl3 wrote, if all show will be shared, how is it possible to trade for new shows then?? Some tapers prolly want uncommon stuff...

Whatever, everyone can do what he/she want with his/her shows... there's nothing I can do. Try to get the-untitled back, or something like chestersings.com or linkin-inside.com... sites like this are satisfactory enough for "the community" (in my opinion) :thumbsup:

 

[azemkamikaze03]

well my brain was thinking about some thing. Ok, why do i need really rare live concerts? Ok now if it sounds good yes. If it has some cool/innovative(Mikes ear peiace) yes...if it sounds diffrent then yes...but if it just is another concert...then really you should just keep it...really the only rare audio i want...is like stuff...LP doesnt have on there CD's such as the earpiece thing(which i got). Instrumentals. High Voltge Docklands(Its not rare but it has a unique sound). Rare demos. Really i dont see the problem with keeping just ordinary concerts to yourselves just becuase only one person ever recorded it or something.

The rare stuff u guys should be lookin for is like i sed...Instrumentals / Demos / Accapellas / Rare Performances(Like A.01-however its spelt- Live) / Unique Way of Performing A Song(Like How Mike PLayed BTH on Piano) / Or really good performances

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