VENEZUELANS REJECT CHAVEZ'S PLANS! HEY LIEBERALS, ARE YOU PAYINGATTENTION???

[David L. Burkhead]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:03b28d0c-e100-4d9f-984d-92c0eb704fa1@e1g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 3, 2:13 pm, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> Actually, I think the appeal of guns is essentially fascist.
> >
> > Yes facist can take over if they have guns. That is why it appeals to
them
> > that I dont have them.
>
> You know, I hear the "Harry Potter" books make excellent reading
> material for adults with limited literacy, trying to improve their
> reading and writing skills. You might take them out from the library
> sometime. You do know what a library is, don't you?

It's truly remarkable that someone capable of writing the above
paragraph has the umitigated gall to question/deny the syntactical ability
of others.

Of course you _heard_ it. A functional illiterate such as yourself
couldn't possibly have _read_ it.

It's not like you've provided any content.

The only question that remains is whether you'll remain an entertaining
troll like several of our RMA regulars or if you'll simply be boring and
soon find your way into everyone's killfile.

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
Updates Wednesdays

 

[SteveL]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:01:36 -0800 (PST), Shuurai
<Shuurai11@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
>>
>> <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is
>> >> understandable.
>> >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:
>>
>> He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power
>> and the people said no through the ballot box.
>
>Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the vote. Do you
>actually believe those elections meant anything?

Are you saying a defining characteristic of a dictatorship is to hold
referenda?

Or to rig them?

Do you think Chavez rigged this referendum?

If so, how do you explain the defeat?

If not, then you'd have to admit your comparison with those who do rig
votes is somewhat off the mark

 

[David L. Burkhead]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e8712395-04fe-4693-ba84-f776ab07d4e5@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 3, 2:13 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
>news:d84d8525-9a7a-473e-9393-627e01cb8d01@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...>
On Dec 3, 1:43 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> > > > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
>news:2a7edc23-a929-49e8-94a8-66dac6ac9dbd@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...>
> > > On Dec 3, 1:26 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:> > >
> "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
>news:524be4bd-5334-420b-831c-c38bb5728bd9@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL
<steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
> >
> > > > > > > > > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic
leader
> > > is
> > > > > > > > > >> understandable.
> > > > > > > > > >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:
> >
> > > > > > > > > He asked the people through a referendum if he could have
more
> > > power
> > > > > > > > > and the people said no through the ballot box.
> >
> > > > > > > > Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the
vote. Do
> > > you
> > > > > > > > actually believe those elections meant anything?
> >
> > > > > > > Pretty common in the former communist block as well.
> > > > > > Pretty common in the fantasyland inhabited by right-wing loons,
as
> > > > > > well.
> >
> > > > > This person you characterize as a "right wing loon" has
actually
> > > talked
> > > > > to people (literally, face to face) with people who were there and
knew
> > > > > _exactly_ how those "referendums" in the former Soviet Union and
other
> > > > > Warsaw Pact nations were handled--who had actually voted in some
of
> > > them.
> >
> > > > > What's your experience? What's your evidence?
> >
> > > > > Do you actually have any or is your argument style just to
take
> > > > > contentless pot-shots at people who disagree with you? You do
know what
> > > the
> > > > > fallacy of an "argument ad hominem" is, don't you?
> >
> > > > > Your implication, via the "how many" question, that dictators
don't
> > > hold
> > > > > referendums stands refuted by example.
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Backfrom
hiatus!
> > > > > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > Judging from your inability to string together more than three words
> > > > in sequence with correct english syntax, I'm a bit skeptical
regarding
> > > > your ability to grasp the issues involved. I'm assuming, simply
from
> > > > the name you use, that you are in fact a native english speaker.
> > > > Otherwise, I would have assumed you were actually from one of the
> > > > former Soviet Republics, and had had limited educational
opportunities
> > > > there.
> >
> > > <Snort>
> > > My editors seem to have a different opinion.
> >
> > > You do realize you continue to engage in argument ad hominem, don't
you?
> >
> > > You do realize that is a logical fallacy, don't you.
> >
> > > You do realize that you are undermining your own position with every
post
> > > you make, don't you?
> >
> > > Actually, you probably don't.
> >
> > > --
> > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Back from
hiatus!
> > > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Mind specifying who your "editors" are, and where you are published?
> > Jeez, they must have their work cut out for them! You can't write
> > worth a damn!- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> http://www.sff.net/people/dburkhead/
>
> Oh, here we are. Well, I guess morons appeal to morons. Lowest
> common denominator, and all that. Explains why our economy is going
> into the toilet at the moment, with imbeciles like you presenting
> themselves as authorities!

And yet you don't even have that much. Must be frustrating. I can
understand why you are so bitter.

(BTW, I guess you can't follow links any better than you can read if you
think I was talking about my personal web page.)

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
Updates Wednesdays

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 2:29 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e8712395-04fe-4693-ba84-f776ab07d4e5@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...> On Dec 3, 2:13 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:d84d8525-9a7a-473e-9393-627e01cb8d01@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...>
>
> On Dec 3, 1:43 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:> > > > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:2a7edc23-a929-49e8-94a8-66dac6ac9dbd@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...>
> > > > On Dec 3, 1:26 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:> > >
> > "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:524be4bd-5334-420b-831c-c38bb5728bd9@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL
>
> <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
>
> > > > > > > > > > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic
> leader
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > >> understandable.
> > > > > > > > > > >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:
>
> > > > > > > > > > He asked the people through a referendum if he could have
> more
> > > > power
> > > > > > > > > > and the people said no through the ballot box.
>
> > > > > > > > > Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the
> vote. Do
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > > actually believe those elections meant anything?
>
> > > > > > > > Pretty common in the former communist block as well.
> > > > > > > Pretty common in the fantasyland inhabited by right-wing loons,
> as
> > > > > > > well.
>
> > > > > > This person you characterize as a "right wing loon" has
> actually
> > > > talked
> > > > > > to people (literally, face to face) with people who were there and
> knew
> > > > > > _exactly_ how those "referendums" in the former Soviet Union and
> other
> > > > > > Warsaw Pact nations were handled--who had actually voted in some
> of
> > > > them.
>
> > > > > > What's your experience? What's your evidence?
>
> > > > > > Do you actually have any or is your argument style just to
> take
> > > > > > contentless pot-shots at people who disagree with you? You do
> know what
> > > > the
> > > > > > fallacy of an "argument ad hominem" is, don't you?
>
> > > > > > Your implication, via the "how many" question, that dictators
> don't
> > > > hold
> > > > > > referendums stands refuted by example.
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > > > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > > > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Backfrom
> hiatus!
> > > > > > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > Judging from your inability to string together more than three words
> > > > > in sequence with correct english syntax, I'm a bit skeptical
> regarding
> > > > > your ability to grasp the issues involved. I'm assuming, simply
> from
> > > > > the name you use, that you are in fact a native english speaker.
> > > > > Otherwise, I would have assumed you were actually from one of the
> > > > > former Soviet Republics, and had had limited educational
> opportunities
> > > > > there.
>
> > > > <Snort>
> > > > My editors seem to have a different opinion.
>
> > > > You do realize you continue to engage in argument ad hominem, don't
> you?
>
> > > > You do realize that is a logical fallacy, don't you.
>
> > > > You do realize that you are undermining your own position with every
> post
> > > > you make, don't you?
>
> > > > Actually, you probably don't.
>
> > > > --
> > > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Backfrom
> hiatus!
> > > > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mind specifying who your "editors" are, and where you are published?
> > > Jeez, they must have their work cut out for them! You can't write
> > > worth a damn!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> >http://www.sff.net/people/dburkhead/
>
> > Oh, here we are. Well, I guess morons appeal to morons. Lowest
> > common denominator, and all that. Explains why our economy is going
> > into the toilet at the moment, with imbeciles like you presenting
> > themselves as authorities!
>
> And yet you don't even have that much. Must be frustrating. I can
> understand why you are so bitter.
>
> (BTW, I guess you can't follow links any better than you can read if you
> think I was talking about my personal web page.)
>
> --
> David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com-- Back from hiatus!
> Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

David, you are living proof that "writing" is 99% marketing, 1%
writing!

Although, I'll admit, J.K. Rowling has you beat. 99.99999999%
marketing, .00000001% writing!

 

[David L. Burkhead]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b080fe99-e49f-45cd-a381-0e863ad90f8c@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 3, 2:19 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:23:47 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > >"SteveL" <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > >news:HLCdndji4KiO2MnanZ2dnUVZ8t-nnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > >> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
> > >> <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > >>>> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is
> > >>>> understandable.
> > >>>More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:
> >
> > >> He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power
> > >> and the people said no through the ballot box.
> >
> > >> And now you call him a "dictator" - as if dictators hold referenda!
> >
> > >Well Saddam was elected with 100 % of the vote and now look at Putin
back in
> > >like Flynn. Tell me the KGB does not control Russia.
> >
> > Are you claiming Chavez rigged the poll?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> He's not claiming anything. He's too stupid to claim anything. He's
> just rambling. Unfortunately we have professional right-wing moron
> writers like David L. Burkhead telling him how brilliant he is, the
> more he rambles. Explains why the country is so screwed up at the
> moment, to some extent.

The fact that you can neither read nor write would certainly make it seem
so.

Fortunately, most of us don't live in the fantasy that you use in place of
reality.

And no, I'm not arguing with you--I'm making fun of you, since you haven't
said anything that actually counts as an argument--so claims of ad hominem
don't apply.

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
Updates Wednesdays

 

[Bert Hyman]

stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com (SteveL) wrote in
news:fbidnSt_ooRr-8nanZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> If so, how do you explain the defeat?

Chavez explained his defeat before the vote:

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=76796

CIA agents and foreign secret services in at least three
concrete subversive plots to destabilize the Chavez
government and obstructing the Referendum

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7470

On November 26, 2007 the Venezuelan government broadcast and
circulated a confidential memo from the US embassy to the CIA
which is devastatingly revealing of US clandestine operations
and which will influence the referendum this Sunday (December
2, 2007).

See?

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 2:33 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b080fe99-e49f-45cd-a381-0e863ad90f8c@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 3, 2:19 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:23:47 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
>
> > > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > >"SteveL" <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:HLCdndji4KiO2MnanZ2dnUVZ8t-nnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > > >> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
> > > >> <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is
> > > >>>> understandable.
> > > >>>More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:
>
> > > >> He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power
> > > >> and the people said no through the ballot box.
>
> > > >> And now you call him a "dictator" - as if dictators hold referenda!
>
> > > >Well Saddam was elected with 100 % of the vote and now look at Putin
> back in
> > > >like Flynn. Tell me the KGB does not control Russia.
>
> > > Are you claiming Chavez rigged the poll?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > He's not claiming anything. He's too stupid to claim anything. He's
> > just rambling. Unfortunately we have professional right-wing moron
> > writers like David L. Burkhead telling him how brilliant he is, the
> > more he rambles. Explains why the country is so screwed up at the
> > moment, to some extent.
>
> The fact that you can neither read nor write would certainly make it seem
> so.
>
> Fortunately, most of us don't live in the fantasy that you use in place of
> reality.
>
> And no, I'm not arguing with you--I'm making fun of you, since you haven't
> said anything that actually counts as an argument--so claims of ad hominem
> don't apply.
>
> --
> David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com-- Back from hiatus!
> Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

David, are you trying to convey information of some type? If so, it
doesn't really come across that way.

 

[Herbert Cannon]

Do you realize you have wandered into a news group where the only one not
capable of defending himself is you? Whadda a wimp.

 

[David L. Burkhead]

"SteveL" <stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:fbidnSt_ooRr-8nanZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:01:36 -0800 (PST), Shuurai
> <Shuurai11@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
> >>
> >> <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is
> >> >> understandable.
> >> >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:
> >>
> >> He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power
> >> and the people said no through the ballot box.
> >
> >Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the vote. Do you
> >actually believe those elections meant anything?
>
> Are you saying a defining characteristic of a dictatorship is to hold
> referenda?
>
> Or to rig them?

It's more of a case that the presence or absense of referenda have
nothing to do with whether a govenment is a dictatorship. In a long
established totalitarian regime, (such at the late SH's), however, there's
no need to ever "lose" a referendum.

> Do you think Chavez rigged this referendum?
>
> If so, how do you explain the defeat?
>
> If not, then you'd have to admit your comparison with those who do rig
> votes is somewhat off the mark

Only if Chavez abides by, and continues to abide by, the outcome of the
referendum, and only if reprisals against those who voted against him don't
start popping up. We'll see.

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
Updates Wednesdays

 

[David L. Burkhead]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c5980fcd-6aa2-49ee-954c-5caa5ebd6058@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 3, 2:29 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
news:e8712395-04fe-4693-ba84-f776ab07d4e5@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...>
On Dec 3, 2:13 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 3, 2:09 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
>news:d84d8525-9a7a-473e-9393-627e01cb8d01@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...>
> >
> > On Dec 3, 1:43 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:> > > >
> "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
>news:2a7edc23-a929-49e8-94a8-66dac6ac9dbd@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...>
> > > > > On Dec 3, 1:26 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:>
> >
> > > "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
>news:524be4bd-5334-420b-831c-c38bb5728bd9@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL
> >
> > <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine,
democratic
> > leader
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > >> understandable.
> > > > > > > > > > > >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > He asked the people through a referendum if he could
have
> > more
> > > > > power
> > > > > > > > > > > and the people said no through the ballot box.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the
> > vote. Do
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > actually believe those elections meant anything?
> >
> > > > > > > > > Pretty common in the former communist block as well.
> > > > > > > > Pretty common in the fantasyland inhabited by right-wing
loons,
> > as
> > > > > > > > well.
> >
> > > > > > > This person you characterize as a "right wing loon" has
> > actually
> > > > > talked
> > > > > > > to people (literally, face to face) with people who were there
and
> > knew
> > > > > > > _exactly_ how those "referendums" in the former Soviet Union
and
> > other
> > > > > > > Warsaw Pact nations were handled--who had actually voted in
some
> > of
> > > > > them.
> >
> > > > > > > What's your experience? What's your evidence?
> >
> > > > > > > Do you actually have any or is your argument style just to
> > take
> > > > > > > contentless pot-shots at people who disagree with you? You do
> > know what
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > fallacy of an "argument ad hominem" is, don't you?
> >
> > > > > > > Your implication, via the "how many" question, that
dictators
> > don't
> > > > > hold
> > > > > > > referendums stands refuted by example.
> >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > > > > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > > > > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Backfrom
> > hiatus!
> > > > > > > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > Judging from your inability to string together more than three
words
> > > > > > in sequence with correct english syntax, I'm a bit skeptical
> > regarding
> > > > > > your ability to grasp the issues involved. I'm assuming, simply
> > from
> > > > > > the name you use, that you are in fact a native english speaker.
> > > > > > Otherwise, I would have assumed you were actually from one of
the
> > > > > > former Soviet Republics, and had had limited educational
> > opportunities
> > > > > > there.
> >
> > > > > <Snort>
> > > > > My editors seem to have a different opinion.
> >
> > > > > You do realize you continue to engage in argument ad hominem,
don't
> > you?
> >
> > > > > You do realize that is a logical fallacy, don't you.
> >
> > > > > You do realize that you are undermining your own position with
every
> > post
> > > > > you make, don't you?
> >
> > > > > Actually, you probably don't.
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Backfrom
> > hiatus!
> > > > > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > Mind specifying who your "editors" are, and where you are published?
> > > > Jeez, they must have their work cut out for them! You can't write
> > > > worth a damn!- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > >http://www.sff.net/people/dburkhead/
> >
> > > Oh, here we are. Well, I guess morons appeal to morons. Lowest
> > > common denominator, and all that. Explains why our economy is going
> > > into the toilet at the moment, with imbeciles like you presenting
> > > themselves as authorities!
> >
> > And yet you don't even have that much. Must be frustrating. I can
> > understand why you are so bitter.
> >
> > (BTW, I guess you can't follow links any better than you can read if you
> > think I was talking about my personal web page.)
> >
> > --
> > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com-- Back from hiatus!
> > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> David, you are living proof that "writing" is 99% marketing, 1%
> writing!
>
> Although, I'll admit, J.K. Rowling has you beat. 99.99999999%
> marketing, .00000001% writing!

And yet, you don't even have that. Must be frustrating.

If it's so easy, I can't wait to see your cv.

Take your time. We'll wait.

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
Updates Wednesdays

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 2:35 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com (SteveL) wrote innews:fbidnSt_ooRr-8nanZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
> > If so, how do you explain the defeat?
>
> Chavez explained his defeat before the vote:
>
> http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=76796
>
> CIA agents and foreign secret services in at least three
> concrete subversive plots to destabilize the Chavez
> government and obstructing the Referendum
>
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7470
>
> On November 26, 2007 the Venezuelan government broadcast and
> circulated a confidential memo from the US embassy to the CIA
> which is devastatingly revealing of US clandestine operations
> and which will influence the referendum this Sunday (December
> 2, 2007).
>
> See?
>
> --
> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com

So, are these accurate? And to what extent? Personally, I wasn't
particularly in favor of these "reforms", which are somewhat
dictatorial.

Obviously, the U.S. is screwing around in Latin America as always, but
Bush's hands are tied in a number of ways these days. The bankrupted
U.S. economy, the overextended U.S. military and intelligence, the
increasing Chinese involvement in the South American economy etc. If
Chavez wants to be dictator, he can make himself dictator. I don't
think he really wants to. Or, he's ambivalent. Once we get rid of
Mr. Bush, things will improve, almost certainly. Extremes breed
extremes. Let's get back to the center.

 

[David L. Burkhead]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cfb9e525-1451-4f23-bbaf-f91770065d5e@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 3, 2:33 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
news:b080fe99-e49f-45cd-a381-0e863ad90f8c@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 3, 2:19 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:23:47 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
> >
> > > > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > >"SteveL" <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:HLCdndji4KiO2MnanZ2dnUVZ8t-nnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > > > >> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"
> > > > >> <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > >>>> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader
is
> > > > >>>> understandable.
> > > > >>>More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:
> >
> > > > >> He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more
power
> > > > >> and the people said no through the ballot box.
> >
> > > > >> And now you call him a "dictator" - as if dictators hold
referenda!
> >
> > > > >Well Saddam was elected with 100 % of the vote and now look at
Putin
> > back in
> > > > >like Flynn. Tell me the KGB does not control Russia.
> >
> > > > Are you claiming Chavez rigged the poll?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > He's not claiming anything. He's too stupid to claim anything. He's
> > > just rambling. Unfortunately we have professional right-wing moron
> > > writers like David L. Burkhead telling him how brilliant he is, the
> > > more he rambles. Explains why the country is so screwed up at the
> > > moment, to some extent.
> >
> > The fact that you can neither read nor write would certainly make it
seem
> > so.
> >
> > Fortunately, most of us don't live in the fantasy that you use in place
of
> > reality.
> >
> > And no, I'm not arguing with you--I'm making fun of you, since you
haven't
> > said anything that actually counts as an argument--so claims of ad
hominem
> > don't apply.
> >
> > --
> > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com-- Back from hiatus!
> > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> David, are you trying to convey information of some type? If so, it
> doesn't really come across that way.

Actually, all I'm trying to do is to get you to continue to post. In so
doing, I get you to convey the information that you are a hopeless nobody
whose meaningless yapping is a failed attempt to generate some facimile of
self-esteem.

And so far, you do not dissapoint.

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
Updates Wednesdays

 

[Bert Hyman]

jkraus1999@gmail.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote in news:489c2f67-1c9a-473a-
82e0-7101192d064d@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com:

> So,

Why are you still reading my posts?

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 2:46 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> jkraus1...@gmail.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote in news:489c2f67-1c9a-473a-
> 82e0-7101192d0...@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com:
>
> > So,
>
> Why are you still reading my posts?
>
> --
> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com

Well, Bert, you could complain to Google that I'm reading your posts
without your permission. I'm not sure what they would do about it,
but I'm sure they'd find the complaint interesting.

 

[SteveL]

On 03 Dec 2007 20:35:40 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

>stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com (SteveL) wrote in
>news:fbidnSt_ooRr-8nanZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> If so, how do you explain the defeat?
>
>Chavez explained his defeat before the vote:
>
>http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=76796
>
> CIA agents and foreign secret services in at least three
> concrete subversive plots to destabilize the Chavez
> government and obstructing the Referendum
>
>http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7470
>
> On November 26, 2007 the Venezuelan government broadcast and
> circulated a confidential memo from the US embassy to the CIA
> which is devastatingly revealing of US clandestine operations
> and which will influence the referendum this Sunday (December
> 2, 2007).
>
>See?

The CIA has a history of doing just that in South America. So it
wouldn't be beyond the pale. But leaving that aside all I see is a
politician making excuses for a (predicted) defeat just like
politicians do everywhere.

You guys keep taking attributes of western democracies and their
politicians and pretending that when Chavez behaves in just those ways
that's actual evidence that he's behaving like a dictator.

As people have said, let's see what he does after the defeat. Only
then will we know.

In the meantime. real dictators don't make excuses for defeat at the
polls, they merely pretend they won.

 

[Bert Hyman]

jkraus1999@gmail.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote in
news:a166cd02-c6c2-49db-ace1-82c5e1bb7c45@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> Well,

Why are you still reading my posts?

After all, you just demanded that I "go away."

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

 

[Herbert Cannon]

> You know, I hear the "Harry Potter" books make excellent reading
> material for adults with limited literacy, trying to improve their
> reading and writing skills.

I think you have read too many of them and now live in a make believe world.
You may want to try some books on real world subjects. Would you like a
list?

You might take them out from the library
> sometime. You do know what a library is, don't you?

Yes I am quite well read. How about you?

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 2:50 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
> On 03 Dec 2007 20:35:40 GMT, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com (SteveL) wrote in
> >news:fbidnSt_ooRr-8nanZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
> >> If so, how do you explain the defeat?
>
> >Chavez explained his defeat before the vote:
>
> >http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=76796
>
> > CIA agents and foreign secret services in at least three
> > concrete subversive plots to destabilize the Chavez
> > government and obstructing the Referendum
>
> >http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7470
>
> > On November 26, 2007 the Venezuelan government broadcast and
> > circulated a confidential memo from the US embassy to the CIA
> > which is devastatingly revealing of US clandestine operations
> > and which will influence the referendum this Sunday (December
> > 2, 2007).
>
> >See?
>
> The CIA has a history of doing just that in South America. So it
> wouldn't be beyond the pale. But leaving that aside all I see is a
> politician making excuses for a (predicted) defeat just like
> politicians do everywhere.
>
> You guys keep taking attributes of western democracies and their
> politicians and pretending that when Chavez behaves in just those ways
> that's actual evidence that he's behaving like a dictator.
>
> As people have said, let's see what he does after the defeat. Only
> then will we know.
>
> In the meantime. real dictators don't make excuses for defeat at the
> polls, they merely pretend they won.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Chavez is basically an idealist in an uncertain position. He's a
potential Castro, but Castro wasn't really that bad a fellow either.
His options were limited. He did the best he could.

Once we get rid of Bush and implement some economic reforms
domestically, South America will restabilize, and the temptations of
Communism will recede. As I say, my nickname for Bush is "Instant
Communism". He makes Communism look good, as an alternative to
imperialistic fascism.

 

[Herbert Cannon]

> Bert, go away. You're saying nothing, and you know it. Go off and
> play.
You have wandered into a newsgroup full of martial artists. For your own
safety dont wander into any dojos.

 

[Bert Hyman]

stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com (SteveL) wrote in
news:daWdnb-aL52C8cnaRVnyggA@giganews.com:

> You guys keep taking attributes of western democracies and their
> politicians and pretending that when Chavez behaves in just those
> ways that's actual evidence that he's behaving like a dictator.

What officeholders in contemporary "western democracies" are actively
nationalizing private industry?

Besides, is "But Mommy! They did it TOOOOO!" really the sort of
national platform we should admire?

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com