VENEZUELANS REJECT CHAVEZ'S PLANS! HEY LIEBERALS, ARE YOU PAYINGATTENTION???

[Jerry B. Altzman]

on 2007-12-04 14:50 Shuurai said the following:
> On Dec 3, 11:46 pm, "Jerry B. Altzman" <jba...@altzman.com> wrote:
>> on 2007-12-03 21:49 Sam the Bam said the following:
>>> This Jerry guy is great... he's like Hal on meth.
>>> Don't chase him off, ok?
>> Wow, thanks!
>> Oh wait, not me.
>> Never mind.
> That was a terrible haiku!

It was better in the original Klingon.

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman jbaltz@altzman.com www.jbaltz.com
thank you for contributing to the heat death of the universe.

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 4, 2:22 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > David, apparently you're an applied physicist.
>
> Jerry, apparently you're an idiot.
>
> > You may, for all I know, be quite a good physicist. But, by presenting yourself as a
> > "writer", you really do yourself a disservice. You can't write.
> > Sorry.
>
> And you can?
>
> > Anyone can, of course, get some articles and stories published if they
> > spend enough money and time trying to do so.
>
> So where are yours? Anyone can do it, right?
>
> > I'd rather just have whatever I want to say disseminated on the internet.
>
> Sure; because the internet has no standards or expectations. It's the
> only place where someone like you CAN have your words disseminated.
>
> > Which isn't to say I haven't published a few things in print from time to time.
>
> Which isn't to say that you have.
>
> > But, it's not much of a business, as you are, I suspect, aware.
>
> Especially when you're only lying about it on usenet...

For some reason I don't fell like providing personal details to
psychotic morons who threaten me on the internet. Call it an
eccentricity.

 

[Shuurai]

On Dec 4, 3:01 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 1:59 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 4, 11:28 am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > But you DO see both Cubans and Mexicans escaping to the United
> > States. Why do you think that's so? Why do so many Cubans risk their
> > lives to come to America when, according to you, it's just as good
> > there as here? They have the same "life expectancy" right? Why don't
> > we ever hear about Americans flocking to Cuba? According to you, they
> > have just as much reason to do so as the Cubans have of coming here...
>
> > Seems you might be full of ****, son. Again. Go figure.
>
> Because the U.S. is rich from military imperialism, you moron!!!!

Earlier you were saying that the US is going broke from military
imperialism... Damn, Jerry - you'd be a hell of a lot more
interesting if you could actually keep track of your own bullshit.
Maybe you need to start taking medication?

> WE STEAL FROM THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!

You're not making any sense, Jerry. Seriously. You just got done
saying that Cuba is a paradise compared to Mexico, and that by your
(asinine) standards just as good as the US since it has the same life
expectancy.

So according to you, Cuba is just as good a place to live as America -
even BETTER actually, since Castro doesn't kill people or send them
into Gulags - but Cubans are sneaking into America anyway because we
steal from the rest of the world? Hmmm...

Sorry, Jerry... the only rational conclusion remains as it was before
- that you are completely full of ****. So what random unrelated
bullshit will you try next in place of an actual argument? Try global
warming - that one always seems to get a reaction from people.

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 4, 2:33 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 3:01 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 4, 1:59 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 4, 11:28 am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > But you DO see both Cubans and Mexicans escaping to the United
> > > States. Why do you think that's so? Why do so many Cubans risk their
> > > lives to come to America when, according to you, it's just as good
> > > there as here? They have the same "life expectancy" right? Why don't
> > > we ever hear about Americans flocking to Cuba? According to you, they
> > > have just as much reason to do so as the Cubans have of coming here...
>
> > > Seems you might be full of ****, son. Again. Go figure.
>
> > Because the U.S. is rich from military imperialism, you moron!!!!
>
> Earlier you were saying that the US is going broke from military
> imperialism... Damn, Jerry - you'd be a hell of a lot more
> interesting if you could actually keep track of your own bullshit.
> Maybe you need to start taking medication?
>
> > WE STEAL FROM THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!
>
> You're not making any sense, Jerry. Seriously. You just got done
> saying that Cuba is a paradise compared to Mexico, and that by your
> (asinine) standards just as good as the US since it has the same life
> expectancy.
>
> So according to you, Cuba is just as good a place to live as America -
> even BETTER actually, since Castro doesn't kill people or send them
> into Gulags - but Cubans are sneaking into America anyway because we
> steal from the rest of the world? Hmmm...
>
> Sorry, Jerry... the only rational conclusion remains as it was before
> - that you are completely full of ****. So what random unrelated
> bullshit will you try next in place of an actual argument? Try global
> warming - that one always seems to get a reaction from people.

I'm sorry. I realize psychotic morons like yourself have different
standards of proof than the average person. I'll try to make this
simple.

1. Cuba is a better place to live than Mexico, because its socialist
system improves the people's standard of living.
2. The United States is a better place to live than Cuba, because
the U.S. military steals and intimidates the entire world to extort
wealth, so wealth, comparatively speaking, is more available in the
U.S. than in Cuba. The greater availability of wealth -- albeit
through theft -- more than compensates for the advantages of
socialism, in this particular case. But, it is a unique case. No
other country can steal as much as the U.S., because of its size, and
military strength.

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 4, 2:50 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> --
> David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
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> Updates Wednesdays
>
> "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45c1e77f-5ab4-48af-a0e8-8ccc2c16c319@b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...> On Dec 4, 2:20 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f8ab50ef-3203-4778-bb7f-5647d225e3f6@j44g2000hsj.googlegroups.com...>
> On Dec 4, 1:51 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:> > > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7f596029-0436-4f8a-a941-635d33f3b910@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > On Dec 4, 12:45 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinpra...@msn.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Dec 3, 7:35 am, Grandmaster Sensei Shaolin
>
> > > > > > > <grandmastersenseishao...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > The Lieberals need to be paying attention since they love more
> > > > > > > > government and more socialist programs.
>
> > > > > > > You are too stupid to have an opinion on this.
>
> > > > > > > BLP
>
> > > > > > You must remember, Mr. Pramer, that this is cross-posted to a
> martial
> > > > > > arts group. Many of the posters have suffered one too many karate
> > > > > > kicks to the head. They even have an autistic, dyslexic writer
> > > > > > posting who specializes in writing for the sub-50 IQ crowd! His
> > > > > > responses are limited to "your argument is ad hominem". He
> doesn't
> > > > > > seem to have anything else to say.
>
> > > > > Your inability to read is not my problem.
>
> > > > > Neither is your propensity to lie through your teeth.
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Backfrom
> hiatus!
> > > > > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > David, apparently you're an applied physicist. You may, for all I
> > > > know, be quite a good physicist. But, by presenting yourself as a
> > > > "writer", you really do yourself a disservice. You can't write.
> > > > Sorry.
>
> > > You're opinion on that matter is completely without merit: as you
> > > demonstrate every time you set fingers to keyboard.
>
> > > > Anyone can, of course, get some articles and stories published if they
> > > > spend enough money and time trying to do so.
>
> > > I see the publishing industry is something else you are completely
> > > ignorant about.
>
> > > > I'd rather just have
> > > > whatever I want to say disseminated on the internet. Which isn't to
> > > > say I haven't published a few things in print from time to time.
>
> > > Name _one_ in a professional, commercial publication--where they pay
> > > _you_, not the other way around.
>
> > > You see, in every one of the pieces I mention it was the publisher
> that
> > > paid me, not me paying the publisher.
>
> > > Among professional writers there's a saying "the only place a writer
> > > signs a check is on the back."
>
> > > Here's a nice starting point for learning a bit about the
>
> subject:http://www.sfwa.org/beware/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > But,
> > > > it's not much of a business, as you are, I suspect, aware.
>
> > > A number of my friends would disagree with you: they make their
> living
> > > writing.
>
> > > That you are not aware of this speaks volumes about your
> > > credibility--and not to your credit.
>
> > > --
> > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Back from hiatus!
> > > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > David, you SURE AS HELL don't make your living writing. And YOU
> > NEVER WILL.
>
> This is the first correct statement you've made so far. Unfortunatly,
> it falls unde the "blind hog" paradigm since the _reason_ I don't make a
> living writing is that it's a hobby for me.
>
> But I'll lay any odds you care to name that I've made more money at it
> than you have.
>
> > Everything is relative. There is a bit of money in writing. But not
> > much.
>
> Once again you don't know what you're talking about. Now, mind you,
> there's not a whole lot of money to be made in short fiction, and the novel
> market is laboring a bit, but non-fiction remains as lucrative as it ever
> was.
>
> If you want to know about writing as a business, don't talk to wannabes
> on the Internet--talk to actual pros who have made actual professional
> sales.
>
> > Actually, if you want to talk about lasers, something you may know
> > something about, that might be of some interest.
>
> Well, if we can simply find something, anything, that you know something
> about, we might have the basis for a conversation. So far, however, you are
> batting 0.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Non-fiction was never particularly lucrative. It's not a very good
business. If it were, it wouldn't be your hobby, but your profession.
Anyone would naturally make their hobby their profession if they had
the choice. You don't. Not many people do.

 

[David L. Burkhead]

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
Updates Wednesdays

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:45c1e77f-5ab4-48af-a0e8-8ccc2c16c319@b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 4, 2:20 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
news:f8ab50ef-3203-4778-bb7f-5647d225e3f6@j44g2000hsj.googlegroups.com...>
On Dec 4, 1:51 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> > > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
news:7f596029-0436-4f8a-a941-635d33f3b910@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > On Dec 4, 12:45 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinpra...@msn.com>
wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 3, 7:35 am, Grandmaster Sensei Shaolin
> >
> > > > > > <grandmastersenseishao...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > The Lieberals need to be paying attention since they love more
> > > > > > > government and more socialist programs.
> >
> > > > > > You are too stupid to have an opinion on this.
> >
> > > > > > BLP
> >
> > > > > You must remember, Mr. Pramer, that this is cross-posted to a
martial
> > > > > arts group. Many of the posters have suffered one too many karate
> > > > > kicks to the head. They even have an autistic, dyslexic writer
> > > > > posting who specializes in writing for the sub-50 IQ crowd! His
> > > > > responses are limited to "your argument is ad hominem". He
doesn't
> > > > > seem to have anything else to say.
> >
> > > > Your inability to read is not my problem.
> >
> > > > Neither is your propensity to lie through your teeth.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Back from
hiatus!
> > > > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > David, apparently you're an applied physicist. You may, for all I
> > > know, be quite a good physicist. But, by presenting yourself as a
> > > "writer", you really do yourself a disservice. You can't write.
> > > Sorry.
> >
> > You're opinion on that matter is completely without merit: as you
> > demonstrate every time you set fingers to keyboard.
> >
> > > Anyone can, of course, get some articles and stories published if they
> > > spend enough money and time trying to do so.
> >
> > I see the publishing industry is something else you are completely
> > ignorant about.
> >
> > > I'd rather just have
> > > whatever I want to say disseminated on the internet. Which isn't to
> > > say I haven't published a few things in print from time to time.
> >
> > Name _one_ in a professional, commercial publication--where they pay
> > _you_, not the other way around.
> >
> > You see, in every one of the pieces I mention it was the publisher
that
> > paid me, not me paying the publisher.
> >
> > Among professional writers there's a saying "the only place a writer
> > signs a check is on the back."
> >
> > Here's a nice starting point for learning a bit about the
subject:http://www.sfwa.org/beware/
> >
> > > But,
> > > it's not much of a business, as you are, I suspect, aware.
> >
> > A number of my friends would disagree with you: they make their
living
> > writing.
> >
> > That you are not aware of this speaks volumes about your
> > credibility--and not to your credit.
> >
> > --
> > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com-- Back from hiatus!
> > Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> David, you SURE AS HELL don't make your living writing. And YOU
> NEVER WILL.

This is the first correct statement you've made so far. Unfortunatly,
it falls unde the "blind hog" paradigm since the _reason_ I don't make a
living writing is that it's a hobby for me.

But I'll lay any odds you care to name that I've made more money at it
than you have.

> Everything is relative. There is a bit of money in writing. But not
> much.

Once again you don't know what you're talking about. Now, mind you,
there's not a whole lot of money to be made in short fiction, and the novel
market is laboring a bit, but non-fiction remains as lucrative as it ever
was.

If you want to know about writing as a business, don't talk to wannabes
on the Internet--talk to actual pros who have made actual professional
sales.

> Actually, if you want to talk about lasers, something you may know
> something about, that might be of some interest.

Well, if we can simply find something, anything, that you know something
about, we might have the basis for a conversation. So far, however, you are
batting 0.

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 4, 2:52 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ba585a15-de81-4dae-94c4-17b149157e60@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...> On Dec 4, 2:22 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > David, apparently you're an applied physicist.
>
> > > Jerry, apparently you're an idiot.
>
> > > > You may, for all I know, be quite a good physicist. But, by
>
> presenting yourself as a
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > "writer", you really do yourself a disservice. You can't write.
> > > > Sorry.
>
> > > And you can?
>
> > > > Anyone can, of course, get some articles and stories published if they
> > > > spend enough money and time trying to do so.
>
> > > So where are yours? Anyone can do it, right?
>
> > > > I'd rather just have whatever I want to say disseminated on the
> internet.
>
> > > Sure; because the internet has no standards or expectations. It's the
> > > only place where someone like you CAN have your words disseminated.
>
> > > > Which isn't to say I haven't published a few things in print from time
> to time.
>
> > > Which isn't to say that you have.
>
> > > > But, it's not much of a business, as you are, I suspect, aware.
>
> > > Especially when you're only lying about it on usenet...
>
> > For some reason I don't fell like providing personal details to
> > psychotic morons who threaten me on the internet. Call it an
> > eccentricity.
>
> IOW, you've got nothing. If you could name even _one_ professional
> publication, you'd do so. You may not realize how transparent you are, but
> I'd stay away from fiber optics research labs if I were you.
>
> --
> David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com-- Back from hiatus!
> Updates Wednesdays- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Actually, I do, but I won't. Why would I bother? Trust me, stick to
physics, you're no psychologist.

 

[Shuurai]

> > Especially when you're only lying about it on usenet...
>
> For some reason I don't fell like providing personal details to
> psychotic morons who threaten me on the internet.

The reason is quite clear, Jerry - you are lying. It really is that
simple. You are lying.

And when exactly did I ever threaten you? Is that just another wad of
bullshit you're throwing into the air to distract people from seeing
what you really are? Surely you've realize by now that you ought to
try something else...

> Call it an eccentricity.

Nah; I'd rather just call it what it is: A lame attempt to cover the
fact that you lied and were called on it.

 

[David L. Burkhead]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1906@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ba585a15-de81-4dae-94c4-17b149157e60@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 4, 2:22 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > David, apparently you're an applied physicist.
> >
> > Jerry, apparently you're an idiot.
> >
> > > You may, for all I know, be quite a good physicist. But, by
presenting yourself as a
> > > "writer", you really do yourself a disservice. You can't write.
> > > Sorry.
> >
> > And you can?
> >
> > > Anyone can, of course, get some articles and stories published if they
> > > spend enough money and time trying to do so.
> >
> > So where are yours? Anyone can do it, right?
> >
> > > I'd rather just have whatever I want to say disseminated on the
internet.
> >
> > Sure; because the internet has no standards or expectations. It's the
> > only place where someone like you CAN have your words disseminated.
> >
> > > Which isn't to say I haven't published a few things in print from time
to time.
> >
> > Which isn't to say that you have.
> >
> > > But, it's not much of a business, as you are, I suspect, aware.
> >
> > Especially when you're only lying about it on usenet...
>
> For some reason I don't fell like providing personal details to
> psychotic morons who threaten me on the internet. Call it an
> eccentricity.

IOW, you've got nothing. If you could name even _one_ professional
publication, you'd do so. You may not realize how transparent you are, but
I'd stay away from fiber optics research labs if I were you.

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
Updates Wednesdays

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 4, 2:51 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Especially when you're only lying about it on usenet...
>
> > For some reason I don't fell like providing personal details to
> > psychotic morons who threaten me on the internet.
>
> The reason is quite clear, Jerry - you are lying. It really is that
> simple. You are lying.
>
> And when exactly did I ever threaten you? Is that just another wad of
> bullshit you're throwing into the air to distract people from seeing
> what you really are? Surely you've realize by now that you ought to
> try something else...
>
> > Call it an eccentricity.
>
> Nah; I'd rather just call it what it is: A lame attempt to cover the
> fact that you lied and were called on it.

Why do you care?

 

[David L. Burkhead]

"Shuurai" <Shuurai11@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:16eb9a4a-9fe6-4a04-b41e-800a9f6827e1@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > David, apparently you're an applied physicist.
>
> Jerry, apparently you're an idiot.
>
> > You may, for all I know, be quite a good physicist. But, by presenting
yourself as a
> > "writer", you really do yourself a disservice. You can't write.
> > Sorry.
>
> And you can?
>
> > Anyone can, of course, get some articles and stories published if they
> > spend enough money and time trying to do so.
>
> So where are yours? Anyone can do it, right?
>
> > I'd rather just have whatever I want to say disseminated on the
internet.
>
> Sure; because the internet has no standards or expectations. It's the
> only place where someone like you CAN have your words disseminated.

When I take the time to write that kind of story or article, I'd rather
be _paid_ for it--and, generally, I have been.

> > Which isn't to say I haven't published a few things in print from time
to time.
>
> Which isn't to say that you have.
>
> > But, it's not much of a business, as you are, I suspect, aware.
>
> Especially when you're only lying about it on usenet...

People I know personally who make a living writing:
Dr. Jerry Pournelle.
Julia Ecklar
Joel Robertson
Steve Barnes
Ray Feist
Dafydd ab Hugh

And that's just a handful off the top of my head of folk who make a living
writing--and this only counts people in the SF&F field who are known to me
personally.

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
Updates Wednesdays

 

[David L. Burkhead]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1906@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f767de78-0ab8-4662-951b-52e6c2ff2ff8@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 4, 2:50 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> > --
> > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com-- Back from hiatus!
> > Updates Wednesdays
> >
> > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
news:45c1e77f-5ab4-48af-a0e8-8ccc2c16c319@b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...>
On Dec 4, 2:20 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> > > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
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> > On Dec 4, 1:51 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:> > > >
"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > On Dec 4, 12:45 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinpra...@msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 7:35 am, Grandmaster Sensei Shaolin
> >
> > > > > > > > <grandmastersenseishao...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > The Lieberals need to be paying attention since they love
more
> > > > > > > > > government and more socialist programs.
> >
> > > > > > > > You are too stupid to have an opinion on this.
> >
> > > > > > > > BLP
> >
> > > > > > > You must remember, Mr. Pramer, that this is cross-posted to a
> > martial
> > > > > > > arts group. Many of the posters have suffered one too many
karate
> > > > > > > kicks to the head. They even have an autistic, dyslexic
writer
> > > > > > > posting who specializes in writing for the sub-50 IQ crowd!
His
> > > > > > > responses are limited to "your argument is ad hominem". He
> > doesn't
> > > > > > > seem to have anything else to say.
> >
> > > > > > Your inability to read is not my problem.
> >
> > > > > > Neither is your propensity to lie through your teeth.
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > > > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > > > > > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com--Backfrom
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> >
> > > > > David, apparently you're an applied physicist. You may, for all I
> > > > > know, be quite a good physicist. But, by presenting yourself as a
> > > > > "writer", you really do yourself a disservice. You can't write.
> > > > > Sorry.
> >
> > > > You're opinion on that matter is completely without merit: as
you
> > > > demonstrate every time you set fingers to keyboard.
> >
> > > > > Anyone can, of course, get some articles and stories published if
they
> > > > > spend enough money and time trying to do so.
> >
> > > > I see the publishing industry is something else you are
completely
> > > > ignorant about.
> >
> > > > > I'd rather just have
> > > > > whatever I want to say disseminated on the internet. Which isn't
to
> > > > > say I haven't published a few things in print from time to time.
> >
> > > > Name _one_ in a professional, commercial publication--where they
pay
> > > > _you_, not the other way around.
> >
> > > > You see, in every one of the pieces I mention it was the
publisher
> > that
> > > > paid me, not me paying the publisher.
> >
> > > > Among professional writers there's a saying "the only place a
writer
> > > > signs a check is on the back."
> >
> > > > Here's a nice starting point for learning a bit about the
> >
> > subject:http://www.sfwa.org/beware/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > But,
> > > > > it's not much of a business, as you are, I suspect, aware.
> >
> > > > A number of my friends would disagree with you: they make their
> > living
> > > > writing.
> >
> > > > That you are not aware of this speaks volumes about your
> > > > credibility--and not to your credit.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > > > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
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> > > David, you SURE AS HELL don't make your living writing. And YOU
> > > NEVER WILL.
> >
> > This is the first correct statement you've made so far.
Unfortunatly,
> > it falls unde the "blind hog" paradigm since the _reason_ I don't make a
> > living writing is that it's a hobby for me.
> >
> > But I'll lay any odds you care to name that I've made more money at
it
> > than you have.
> >
> > > Everything is relative. There is a bit of money in writing. But not
> > > much.
> >
> > Once again you don't know what you're talking about. Now, mind you,
> > there's not a whole lot of money to be made in short fiction, and the
novel
> > market is laboring a bit, but non-fiction remains as lucrative as it
ever
> > was.
> >
> > If you want to know about writing as a business, don't talk to
wannabes
> > on the Internet--talk to actual pros who have made actual professional
> > sales.
> >
> > > Actually, if you want to talk about lasers, something you may know
> > > something about, that might be of some interest.
> >
> > Well, if we can simply find something, anything, that you know
something
> > about, we might have the basis for a conversation. So far, however, you
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> Non-fiction was never particularly lucrative.

You really don't know what you're talking about.

For decades, non-fiction has been where the reliable money is at in
fiction. While it may not have the "highs" of the Steven Kings and the
Michael Crichton's, it's been a reliable, steady, income provider for many
people. Look at your local bookstore shelves sometime: every one of the
articles in those magazines made money for its author (not counting
"academic" publications like "Nature," "Physical Review," and the like which
run on a completely different model).

You appear to be completely unaware of how the business of publishing
and writing works.

> It's not a very good
> business. If it were, it wouldn't be your hobby, but your profession.

That turns out not to be the case. Many things that are enjoyable done
at your own pace, when the mood strikes, but become far less so when you
have to do them every day to pay the bills. As one example, I enjoy
driving, both street driving and competitive driving. But put me into a
position as a professional driver--deliveries or whatever--and I'd be driven
mad with boredom within a month. Hobbies are spices. One's career is the
stable. The two are not the same.

> Anyone would naturally make their hobby their profession if they had
> the choice.

"Anyone" is overassuming. Hey, I like sex too, but I don't think I'd
want to do it professionally.

> You don't.

Actually, if I accept a more modest means and being buttoned up in a
room by myself for long periods of the day I very much do have that choice
because I've _done_ it. There was a period where I was doing feature
article writing for a news magazine that paid for my apartment, food on the
table, etc. Sure, I do better now. But I could do "well enough" then.

> Not many people do.

More people than you expect have the choice. But they chose "no" by not
putting in the dog work it takes to get to the point of being able to make
money. The aphorism is that it takes writing about 1 million words of crap
before one starts to write saleable material. And it can't be just any
crap. It has to be the absolute best crap you are capable of writing. (I.e.
you have to really be trying.) There's a lot of heartache, a lot of
rejection, and a lot of frustration along the road. Most people who start
give up along the way. That's a choice.

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
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[David L. Burkhead]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1906@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 4, 2:52 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:
> > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
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On Dec 4, 2:22 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > David, apparently you're an applied physicist.
> >
> > > > Jerry, apparently you're an idiot.
> >
> > > > > You may, for all I know, be quite a good physicist. But, by
> >
> > presenting yourself as a
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > "writer", you really do yourself a disservice. You can't write.
> > > > > Sorry.
> >
> > > > And you can?
> >
> > > > > Anyone can, of course, get some articles and stories published if
they
> > > > > spend enough money and time trying to do so.
> >
> > > > So where are yours? Anyone can do it, right?
> >
> > > > > I'd rather just have whatever I want to say disseminated on the
> > internet.
> >
> > > > Sure; because the internet has no standards or expectations. It's
the
> > > > only place where someone like you CAN have your words disseminated.
> >
> > > > > Which isn't to say I haven't published a few things in print from
time
> > to time.
> >
> > > > Which isn't to say that you have.
> >
> > > > > But, it's not much of a business, as you are, I suspect, aware.
> >
> > > > Especially when you're only lying about it on usenet...
> >
> > > For some reason I don't fell like providing personal details to
> > > psychotic morons who threaten me on the internet. Call it an
> > > eccentricity.
> >
> > IOW, you've got nothing. If you could name even _one_ professional
> > publication, you'd do so. You may not realize how transparent you are,
but
> > I'd stay away from fiber optics research labs if I were you.
> >
> > --
> > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
> > mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
> > My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com-- Back from hiatus!
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>
> Actually, I do, but I won't. Why would I bother? Trust me, stick to
> physics, you're no psychologist.

And you stick to lying. It's what you do best. Not well, mind you, but
better than everything else you fail at.


--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!
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[Pierre Honeyman]

On Dec 4, 8:28 am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Castro doesn't kill people. The U.S. does. Castro has no Gulag, the
> U.S. does. Despite being a poor country, average life expectancy is
> just as high in Cuba as in the U.S. Cuba is a paradise compared to
> Mexico. You don't see any Cubans escaping to "Freedom in Mexico".

You would if Mexico were closer.

Pierre

 

[Pierre Honeyman]

On Dec 4, 12:40 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2:33 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Sorry, Jerry... the only rational conclusion remains as it was before
> > - that you are completely full of ****. So what random unrelated
> > bullshit will you try next in place of an actual argument? Try global
> > warming - that one always seems to get a reaction from people.
>
> I'm sorry. I realize psychotic morons like yourself have different
> standards of proof than the average person. I'll try to make this
> simple.
>
> 1. Cuba is a better place to live than Mexico, because its socialist
> system improves the people's standard of living.

You're in high school aren't you?

Pierre

 

[David L. Burkhead]

"Pierre Honeyman" <pearhed@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 4, 8:28 am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Castro doesn't kill people. The U.S. does. Castro has no Gulag, the
> > U.S. does. Despite being a poor country, average life expectancy is
> > just as high in Cuba as in the U.S. Cuba is a paradise compared to
> > Mexico. You don't see any Cubans escaping to "Freedom in Mexico".
>
> You would if Mexico were closer.

You also don't see Mexican's escaping to Cuba.

--
David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."
My webcomic Cold Servings
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[Herbert Cannon]

> China has a GDP as large as Europe or the U.S. now. They are poor,
> because they were much poorer than the west for centuries, having been
> virtually a European colony. Their economy grows by 10% a year, and
> is likely to continue doing so. This is a direct result of Marxism,
> applied to a highly regulated and controlled private sector.

You dumb ****, it is the result the death of Mao; and of the take over of
China by Deng Xiao Peng who said," I dont care if it is a white cat or a
black cat, if it catches mice it is a good cat." He permitted the peasants
to have private plots for agriculture which boosted their incomes by 135%
and benefited agriculture enormously. So go spread your commie fantasies
somewhere else.

Economic
> assistance is provided to all poor people in the cities who need it.

Horse ****. China has a lousy human rights record.

> Medical care is free. Disparaties of wealth are far lower than in the
> United States.

HAHAHAHA. Yeah I see people flocking to run and live in China. When are you
going, moron?
>

 

[Herbert Cannon]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1906@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 3, 3:35 pm, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > I have no idea why this topic is on a martial arts site, myself.
>>
>> I am really puzzled how a wimp like you showed up here.
>>
>> > Although there are some quite interesting loons here.
>>
>> Yeah we have some left wing loons here too; however, I am quite certain
>> they could whip your butt in a heartbeat.
>>
>> Including
>>
>> > professional writers who failed grade six grammar, and never learned
>> > it in later life!
>>
>> Took your lunch money from you?
>>
>> I guess morons would have quite a large market for
>>
>> > their ideas though.
>>
>> You do? Where?
>>
>> Makes sense when you think about it.
>> Not a thing you have been spouting has made any sense so far.
>
> Because you haven't the brains to understand it.

You are operating with a brain stem and not a brain so I rather doubt your
wimpy commie ass can do anything but grunt.

Stick to martial
> arts. You have an advantage. Blows to your head will bounce off
> harmlessly!
I am planning on storing my martial arts equipment in the hollow space
between your ears to get some use out of your head.

 

[Herbert Cannon]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1906@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 3, 3:54 pm, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > When the U.S. restabilizes, so will the hemisphere, and to some extent
>> > the world.
>>
>> Utter cark.
>>
>> Bush has created ripples of violence and extremism> throughout the
>> world.
>>
>> Here is a clue for you, moron, Islam and the extremism it promotes has
>> been
>> around since the sixth century. You might want to visit the library and
>> check out the book " Unholy Terror." That was long before Bush - it was
>> Clinton's time.
>> Sorry Bush did not cause your plantar warts nor your jock itch either.
>
> Racist propaganda of the type you spew are what got you 911, and are
> what are currently destroying the U.S. economy.

You big dumb **** the book was written after 911. What caused 911 was
Islamic extremism which, as I already said, has been around since the sixth
century. You are just too ignorant and brainwashed figure it out. Go back
to memorizing " Das Capital" like a good little wimpy commie.

Go off to Iraq and
> fight your nightmare fantasies loon.

Gee do you think I can recruit an Al Qaeda operative to blow your ass up? I
am sure he would enjoy sharing his 72 virgins with you.

Or, take a trip to Afghanistan
> on your own. Be a tourist there. The mountains are lovely.
I am sure you would enjoy living under the Taliban rule there, especially
since you are too wimpy to fight anyone. Take your wife, girl friend,
mother, sister with you. I am sure they will all thank your for the
opportunity to be treated like ****, moron.

 

[Herbert Cannon]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1906@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 4, 10:30 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> jkraus_1...@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote
>> innews:9d189e10-b1d6-4caf-9bbf-cc5fdb90e3e7@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Spoken
>>
>> Are you still following me around?
>>
>> --
>> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com
>
> Have you considered a stalking complaint? Am I distracting you from
> your romantic obessession with firearms?

Is he distracting from your romantic obession with your tiny penis?

Frankly, I would have
> thought your sexual fantasies regarding semi-automatic rifles would
> have been sufficient to keep you occupied.

Frankly, I think you are a sexual freak show obsessing about sex. What's the
matter you no one giving you any?