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There are certainly different kinds of 'love'. The love I feel for Tami and the love I feel for my children are similar, but their also very different. The love I feel for God is also a completely different feeling. But yes, all of them are unconditional for me, I have no doubts of my feelings or the purpose of my dedication.

Right, and Ali was 6 minutes right behind you, maybe I am wrong but there was nothing funny about your post in my opinion, I really am upset that even this day is remade by the PC agenda to ignore what really happened. All for political gain. Someone has to speak out against the political correct agenda.

They didn't comprehend my post or they would not have said what they said, most of the time they are just disagreeing with me out of a knee jerk reaction. Both of you ladies need to reread my post, I was taking issue with the "Day of Service" Bullsh!t and that is 100% Obama and Liberal attempt to transform this issue with political correct politics. Thank you, at least one American who understands the danger of sweeping this event under the PC rug.

lol, now even Bender is so lost for any way to refute Obama's lies has to resort to discussion blocking racism claims, too bad the liberals like him have used this tactic for so long that it is losing it's power, like the little boy who cried wolf too many times. Obama is the liar, not the Conservatives, Bender, even George Stephanopoulos, the ABC face boy, has admitted on the air that Obama cannot fulfill all the promises he has made, so that means that Obama knows he is being dishonest. Take for example how he promises this will be "deficit neutral". Even you have to admit that is impossible. There is not one money cruncher who has ever said this can be "deficit neutral" and yet Obama keeps making that promise, why? He promises no illegals will get coverage but he refuses to allow specific language and protections to ensure that and had two amendments removed that would have enforced it.......why? Because he knows it "WILL" cover illegals, that is his plan from the beginning. Lies? All from Obama.

I bet you girls will pretend to not like The Dirty Sanchez too

any other day can be a day of service, 9/11 should stay a day of memory of how easy it is for life to change in America with just a couple radicals. Today we can't even say we are at war with radical islam because Obama says it is not politically correct. Just 8 short years later and it is almost forgotten by the average liberal.

I was actually going for many concepts at the same time, I am weird that way.. Notice how sh!t and Love are both '4 letter words'? Coincidence?

So why do you think normally smart people like Bender hide behind words like "Lunatic fringe" when they know their own leadership is the real Lunatic fringe? How can they look at a guy like this and follow him, but call everyone else radical? I do not believe for a second that Bender does not have the ability to see the truth so does that mean even the low level liberals/socialists like him are part of these radical conspiracies? How would you explain it RO?

Just for you RO [attach=full]2509[/attach] I know how much you love tattoos.......

"Love" as a word can be used in many ways, similar to the word 'sh!t' where such usage can be very different: "your sh!tt!ng me." "Don't give me that sh!t" "This is some good sh!t" "Love" as a concept or feeling is defined inside us, the feeling is difficult to define because it requires so much personal involvement. To me, my own definition of the feeling "love" is something you value enough to set aside your own desires and goals to preserve and protect.

Bender, I don't have any problem with any one or two of these associations Obama has had, any of us can trace back our past and find radicals and wackos that we have been involved with, but with this President it is the sheer numbers of radicals he has embraced and worked with and is still surrounding himself with today that shows his true character. John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, has been a lifelong supporter of forced abortions and mandatory sterilization of the polulace, sure he dodged this belief in his job interview as most people put on their best face for their interviews but a leopard does not change his spots. The list goes on and on, each of them like the reverand wright 'could' be innocent on their own, but when you combine them all and look at them as a whole, it is at the very least very disturbing.

Well your conditioned by the brainwashing to not hear or see anything that does not conform to your socialist agenda Bender. That is why IWS has posted hundreds of the Conservative options that have been around for years and you still claim Conservatives have never had any ideas, you just can't let yourself see anything as a viable option except letting Government officials run everyone's lives. Don't get me wrong, I believe the guy was foolish and wrong for his outburst, but most thinking americans are tired of Obama speaking pure lies about Obamacare. He cannot follow through with any of his promises, every expert has said he cannot make this plan pay for itself, if there was that much to be saved from corruption, and the Government had the ability to end that corruption and waste, they woulf have already saved it before now, so none of the expect savings can happen, none of it, and Obama knows this so he must be telling lies. Illegals will be covered, just like illegals get welfare and foodstamps even though there is no direct rule that says they can get it, in fact two changes Conservatives asked for to ensure illegals could not get care was voted out by the liberals and Obama, why would they intentionally vote those assurances out if they did not intend for illegals to get the insurance? Obama lies to get what he wants, that is what he does.

And yet you can't refute the fact of it, easier to try and redirect attention away from the facts with false accusations of people being radicals, just like the way the socialists called all the protesters against the government option health care, radicals and such.

lol, the excuse machine squaks again. The voter fraud is significant because the managers of these places tried to hide it, that makes it very significant to their core values of the group itself. ACORN was also directly connected to a huge number of the failed loans with the housing market, helping low income people get homeloans they should never have gotten in the first place. It seems reasonable to believe they have been doing 'creative' accounting and tax help for people all along. It is very possible that if it was not for ACORN, the bank crisis would never have happened in the first place. The reason people like Obama is important to mention is it was Obama who trained them how to get away with their actions. With all the blame being passed around against bank officers, do you see Obama mentioning how ACORN were involved in the largest number of bad loans? Why not? Because to him, that is all part of his desire for "social justice".

Part of what they do is help people get home loans and even help with tax returns. That is why they had the tax expert on hand to help these people lie on their tax returns. They really have their hands in a lot of pots and I am sure that on the whole, there are a lot of good people in their group that just want to help people.....but The few radicals that are controlling things are taking this group down a path of corruption and breaking the law. In this case the prostitute cover was just an example of people comming into their office wanting help in buying a home, part of this home buying process is being sure you have all your financial information up to date (even if it is false). The reporters pretended to be making illegal income and the ACORN advisor even told them to stop calling their income prostitution and instead say the girl was a performing artist. The ACORN workers helping with advise on operating a brothel to include the smuggling of underage girls from another Country in and even claiming up to three of them as dependants in their violation of many, many laws all with smiles on their faces is disturbing to me and I believe should be to all Americans.

" Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now" They are a radical political activist group pushing for "social justice" and using bully tactics to get whatever they want. Obama was one of their in house lawers for many years and coached them in their tactics. For their support Obama has promised them more Government money and is even having them run the census in some areas. They have been involved in many voter fraud scandles that are still being sorted out and many other strange financial activities. They get millions of taxpayer dollars but refuse to allow any accountability of that tax money.

ACORN Officials Videotaped Telling 'Pimp,' 'Prostitute' How to Lie to IRS - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com Put short, two people pretended to be a pimp/prostitute and asked for help from workers at ACORN in getting a home. They got a lot of advise about how to hide income, how to lie on tax returns, and even some advise on the best way to manage an underage prostitution ring where the man and woman said they were going to bring in 13 year old girls from another Country to work as prostituts too. After considerable resistence ACORN has fired the two women involved but you can be sure they will be rehired after the dust settles, the real question is, why are out tax dollard going to support a group who has it's first priority to help people lie on their taxes? To help people break the law? This entire group is designed to take advantage of the system, to manipulate, and to lie where they can get away with it, so at the very least they should not be getting any taxpayer dollars.

That is why the Liberals restricted their negative outbursts against Bush during his 2005 state of the union address to booing and yelling "no". Liberals are always sure to object in the "right" ways.

Man, you have had way more than your fair share of pain in the family department Snaf, God bless you my friend, you are truly close to being a saint to endure all this in your life without exploding, my hat is off to you completely, your a stronger man that I think I would be under the same set of circumstances, maybe not, I like to think one of my strengths are to be able to rise to any challenge and care a big load but things like this are like wild cards that toss out normal survival and skills. I really do think you need the family law shark, don't waste time with general guys, if you don't know any lawyers on a personal basis that will honestly tell you who the sharks are, then find someone who is into local advertising sales, they will know everyone in town that matters and will know who to ask if they do not already know. You had little chance of getting custody before they signed away their parental rights, now you might have a chance and don't think that the parents choosing their successor is automatically a win for them, if the parents are even admitting to themselves they suck as parents, their choice for the new guardian is still based on that same lack of ability. It can even be as simple as what Judge you will get. The sharks know what Judges tend to do on a personal level because the law is only as good as the guy enforcing/enacting it.......that is the Judge. Good luck my man, I will have you added to our prayer list.

The only cost would be to finally put an end to all these claims about me not being honest, I will admit to that much of a personal agenda to offer you this but more than that I really do not mind helping anyone I believe I can trust. You see Ali, unlike yourself I do not try to imply your bad as a person just because I do not like some of the things you do or say against me. I know most of your actions are a misguided form of severe and sometimes exaggerated need to be protective of your circle of friends. Similar to how some gay men exaggerate the 'female' persona in their attempt to overcome their lack of being a "true" girl. So I know you will not trash or othewise cause harm to my property and in fact after I made you the offer the first time I told Tami that if you did decide to take me up on my offer, that you would find some way to pay me back in an original way because I sense that is just how you would respond. I even went so far as to guess that you would try to make it very personal if you could. But I still say you really don't want me at your party because I will show you up too much on the dance floor, believe me you are not the first lady to think it unfair that such a handsome and sexy man like me can also dance so well and get a little Intimidated from that Just like a few days ago he said many of you only dissagree with me because you think it is a kind of fun exploit or game for you. RO is always all over the place, one minute one guy, the next minute a completely different guy. He even admits to likeing to come start fights, I take him at face value, whatever face he is showing that day is how I will deal with him. I like a lot of what he says but other times he is full of gas, just like me sometimes, maybe that is why he is infatuated with me, I can't help it, I have a lot of people fawning over me these days

Wow. I only know how I felt as a father who after my ex took off, she refused me any visitation with my kids, they were my children but the law says that it was legal for her to insist on a court ordered visitation schedule before releasing them into my care..........so being a father meant I had no legal right to see my own children without a court order, I cannot tell you how upset I was with that revelation. An "emergency" visitation hearing took months and I was not even allowed to call my children, so I can identify with your frustration to have a deep and strong bond for your Granddaughter and how it feels to have someone else tell you that you have no right to even see them. My mind was filled with all sorts of negative things to say the least. At this point I would definately get the lawyer and get as much information as possible about the way they gave away custody to the guy's parents. If just him or if both of them signed away their rights. Is he "really" the father? Was there ever a test? In some States this can be a powerful tool, in others like Florida not as much. This is not the time to get a basic lawyer, ask around and get yourself a real shark of the family law circles, that does not mean you have to let him completely off the chain right away, but he will have the right knowledge and attitude to do what is needed should these things get even more ugly. The average lawyer, no matter how accomplished in other areas of law, they are just about useless in family law because they are not ready to deal with the raw emotional element the more crazy cases bring to the table so they try to make fast deals and compromise in horrible ways that are not the best solutions because they hate to deal with a long drawn out mess that is possible with family law.

I think I have to agree, distance right now might be the best idea but you also have to follow your heart and do what you feel is best. I hate to tell you to not help her and upset you more but I guess I would hate for this to just be more manipulation being cast on you, back to back after all this mess. I cannot speak in specifics but in general drug addicts become master manipulators to feed their habits, nobody is safe from their tricks because the drug rules their life.

lol, well as I keep pointing out, those who only want to see the worse, will always find it, even if it is not there.

I would just like to add that you also do not want to do or say anything that can come back to hurt you either. For example don't text back, don't leave voice mail messages, don't say things where other people can testify to what you said that is any way negative. Positive sure, but as an example if you were to text them and say your on your way to hurt him that would not be very good for you, even if you never do it that can be very damaging. emkay is giving you some solid advise, especially with your situation with the wife, you guys can't let them tear you two apart, you have to preserve your own sanity so you can face this situation in a calm and smart way. Remember, your primary concern should be to be sure Kandyce is safe, it sounds like that is already in place but you can't keep your eye on things and take action to help in the future if your in trouble with the law yourself. Besides, piece of garbage or not, he is still her daddy and how will Kandyce feel if her Grandpaw hurt her daddy? That certainly would not help things. Stay strong my friend, that too can help Kandyce, so it is a win/win

Snaf.......no!!! Don't go there, your Granddaughter needs you and there is nothing you will ever be able to do to make this better with letting them get under your skin. As much as I hate children's services in general, this is the kind of thing they "can" help deal with if they do their jobs. Your daughter is using your granddaughter and the love you feel for her against you like a weapon snaf, no matter how much you love your Granddaughter, if you give in now that will simply tell your daughter that she should do this every time she wants something from you. My advise, step back away from it for awile, as much as it hurts and upsets you picking at that sore tooth will most likely make everything much, much worse.