ImWithStupid
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whatever. I don't give a . preach about the evils of capitalism all you want.
We need to kill all the poor, old, sick, leeches of society and feeble to make things better.
Wow. I feel like a communist or secular progressive!
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whatever. I don't give a . preach about the evils of capitalism all you want.
We need to kill all the poor, old, sick, leeches of society and feeble to make things better.
Wow. I feel like a communist or secular progressive!
hahahahaha... that's what I was doing.. I'm a commie.. call homeland security..whatever. I don't give a . preach about the evils of capitalism all you want.
We need to kill all the poor, old, sick, leeches of society and feeble to make things better.
Wow. I feel like a communist or secular progressive!
Ahhlee
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I still think the money could be used to reach more teens/young adults.
WHY, WHY, WHY does it always have to come down to looks with Palin????? Jesus Christ, can't a woman choose to support or not support her based on her overall political platform...a platform BEYOND her appearance and stance on abortion? To suggest that MOST (you said it, not me) women hate Palin based on petty jealousy is absolutely insulting and sexist.
Obama is an attractive man. I bet some of you fellows here didn't vote for him because he's hot and likely well endowed since he's black. I'm sure Obama's good looks and epic weiner make the rest of you shmucks look bad so you refused to vote for him, right? Ohhhhhh....you didn't vote for him because you don't agree with him politically, not because you're jealous of his stunning physical attributes. Men would never be that petty and unreasonable!
Please, for the love of all that is Holy, stop pushing your shallow, limited scope on the rest of us. We're not all so short sighted.
ImWithStupid
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Nope. It's a proven fact that women often detest other women because they feel they are physically inferior to them, more often then men compare other men in power to themselves.
Women are way more superficial than men when it comes to those in power by gender.
timesjoke
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But it would cost more to let these girls get pregnant, this is my point. We should be trying to prevent unwanted pregnancies is my point and so far, this is the only program I have heard of that has been successful for high risk girls.
Everything else has failed, why not give prevention a chance?
And true most of the time. I have made a big part of my life dedicated to watching how people behave. The first thing a woman does when she walks into a room like at a party or bar is too look around the room very carefully.......but she is not checking out the men as a man would look at the woman......nope, she is doing a threat assessment of the other women in the room.
I am not saying it is all the woman's fault, in many ways they are raised to be in constant competition with other women over their looks and the media and stores have all banded together to exploit and expand this mentality in women in every way possible.
You miss one very important aspect, something that completely changes the situation. I don't "HATE" Obama.
He is a good looking guy I suppose, but looks or the lack of them do not change who he is. I do not identify myself with my looks or a comparison to myself to another man based on looks......women very often do.
As I pointed out in my reply to eddo, my point was only directed at those who have this unfounded hatred of Sarah, there is no honest or reasonable reason to hate her, so there must be something else digging at these women who show the hatred.
I have an open mind, please educate me on why you feel so many liberal women hate her so much? Hate is a powerful thing. To quote one liberal women's group, Palin would be a massive "step backward" for all women if she were to be vice President
Why would any woman being in either of the top two jobs of politics be a step back? Why say something so completely stupid and uneducated? Clearly it would not be a step backward so these groups are talking from hate.......why the hate?
RoyalOrleans
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Very rarely do I disagree with IWS, but this time I agree wholeheartedly with 'joke.
Ahhlee
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Proven fact? Proven by whom? You and your drinking buddies at closing time on a Friday night at Hooters? What's your source, here?
If I'm going to work and stressing over the fact that "Carol's" hair has more volume than mine rather than worrying that Carol's increased productivity might show me up and lose me that promotion I've been vying for...there is something seriously wrong with me.
I'm saying this program is putting a teeny, tiny band aid on a huge, gaping wound. Either it needs to be increased significantly to reach more girls or something else should be done.
The rewards program should reach more than just a handful of girls. Boys need to be involved in making better choices, too. Overall, it IS a good program but I think it could be improved upon.
I still say my sterilization plan is the cat's *** and would prevent lots of unwanted babies in the low income/drug sector.
Maybe the women you hang out with. When I'm at a party, I'm there to party and have a good time.
The fact that you think a woman is going to behave in a voting booth the exact same way she would at a party is laughable and demeaning. Would you?
Oh, that's right. Only women "hate". Men "disagree". Whatever.
It's ok to admit you have ***** envy. It really is.
Again, please stop judging all women based on the ones you hang out with and "observe". We're not all so shallow and petty.
Again with the "hatred". Did you ever stop and think that maybe they just don't agree with her views?
They DISAGREE with her because they are liberals and Palin is a conservative. Ummmm....DUH?
Hardly a hateful statement. It's merely an opinion.
"If Palin gets elected, I hope that ***** DIES!" - Now that's unfounded hatred.
Obama is a man. You don't like his stimulus package. Does that mean you clearly hate him? A + B - C x ***** envy = hate? Why the hate?
ImWithStupid
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Ah, women, the consistently, tragically underestimated constituency. What the Democrats learned during the primaries and the Republicans might now be finding out the hard way, I learned at my very academic, well-regarded all-girls high school: that is never to discount the ability of women to open a robust, committed, well-thought-out vat of hatred for another girl.
Women are weapons-grade haters. Hillary Clinton knows it. Palin knows it too. When women get their hate on, they don't just dislike, or find disfavor with, or sort of not really appreciate. They loathe — deeply, richly, sustainingly. I do not say this to disparage my gender; women also love in more or less the same way.
When men disagree, the steps to resolution are reasonably clear and unsophisticated. Acts of physical violence are visited upon one another's person or property, and the whole thing blows over. Women? Nu-unh. We savor the discord. We draw it out. We share our contempt with our friends, like a useful stock tip, or really good salsa. And then we all go hate together: a mutually encouraging group activity for when the book group gets quiet.
The hatred women have for Sarah Palin, and others had for Hillary before her, is not necessarily about politics. Anybody can run the numbers on how many people Palin's pro-life, pro-gun, socially conservative policies will seduce and how many they will alienate. Rather, the test that the McCain campaign failed to put her through was the Abbotsleigh Ladies College test. (Named after my high school. Go, green and gold!). It's a simple pass-fail exam: Will the other girls like her?
Here's why Palin doesn't make the grade:
1. She's too pretty. This is very bad news. At school, pretty girls tend to be liked only by other pretty girls. The rest of us, whose looks hover somewhere around underwhelming, resent them and whisper archly of their "unearned attention." So, if everyone calls your candidate "hot," you're in a whole mess of trouble. If the Pakistani head-of-state more or less hits on her, well, yes, she'll get a sympathy vote, but we're in Dukakis-in-the-tank territory. It's an admiration vaporizer. (Of course a candidate can't be too ugly, or it will scare the men, who are clearly shallow as a gender.)
2. She's too confident. This also bodes ill. Women have self-esteem issues. But they also have other-women's-esteem issues. As almost any woman — from the head of the Budgerigar Breeders association to Queen Elizabeth — can attest, it's almost impossible to get confidence right. Too timid and you're a pushover. Too self-aggrandizing and you're a bad word unless it's about a dog, or Project Runway's Kenley. Or Michelle, my best friend until 9th grade, after she won that debating prize and got y.
The fact of the matter is once a female decides it's over with another female, it's like an end-stage marriage. No matter how seemingly benign, every attribute becomes an affront: the hair, the voice, the husband, the moose-shooting, the glasses, the big family, the making rape victims pay for their own rape test kits.
Why Some Women Hate Sarah Palin -- Printout -- TIME
Women are weapons-grade haters. Hillary Clinton knows it. Palin knows it too. When women get their hate on, they don't just dislike, or find disfavor with, or sort of not really appreciate. They loathe — deeply, richly, sustainingly. I do not say this to disparage my gender; women also love in more or less the same way.
When men disagree, the steps to resolution are reasonably clear and unsophisticated. Acts of physical violence are visited upon one another's person or property, and the whole thing blows over. Women? Nu-unh. We savor the discord. We draw it out. We share our contempt with our friends, like a useful stock tip, or really good salsa. And then we all go hate together: a mutually encouraging group activity for when the book group gets quiet.
The hatred women have for Sarah Palin, and others had for Hillary before her, is not necessarily about politics. Anybody can run the numbers on how many people Palin's pro-life, pro-gun, socially conservative policies will seduce and how many they will alienate. Rather, the test that the McCain campaign failed to put her through was the Abbotsleigh Ladies College test. (Named after my high school. Go, green and gold!). It's a simple pass-fail exam: Will the other girls like her?
Here's why Palin doesn't make the grade:
1. She's too pretty. This is very bad news. At school, pretty girls tend to be liked only by other pretty girls. The rest of us, whose looks hover somewhere around underwhelming, resent them and whisper archly of their "unearned attention." So, if everyone calls your candidate "hot," you're in a whole mess of trouble. If the Pakistani head-of-state more or less hits on her, well, yes, she'll get a sympathy vote, but we're in Dukakis-in-the-tank territory. It's an admiration vaporizer. (Of course a candidate can't be too ugly, or it will scare the men, who are clearly shallow as a gender.)
2. She's too confident. This also bodes ill. Women have self-esteem issues. But they also have other-women's-esteem issues. As almost any woman — from the head of the Budgerigar Breeders association to Queen Elizabeth — can attest, it's almost impossible to get confidence right. Too timid and you're a pushover. Too self-aggrandizing and you're a bad word unless it's about a dog, or Project Runway's Kenley. Or Michelle, my best friend until 9th grade, after she won that debating prize and got y.
The fact of the matter is once a female decides it's over with another female, it's like an end-stage marriage. No matter how seemingly benign, every attribute becomes an affront: the hair, the voice, the husband, the moose-shooting, the glasses, the big family, the making rape victims pay for their own rape test kits.
Why Some Women Hate Sarah Palin -- Printout -- TIME
timesjoke
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Would you not agree that all ideas must start somewhere?
I believe a woman will behave like a woman no matter where she is, but none of this had anything to do with the voting booth, 100% of my comments were directed on the very small segment of women who have an unreasonable hatred of Sarah.
Not every woman in the world.
Well women do hold grudges more often than men do and also turn to emotional based reactions much, much faster than men do. Hate is based in emotion, being as women are faster to react to any given situation with an emotional response they are more prone to hate.
It is a proven fact that women tend to "fit" their mate. Small ***** or large ***** does not matter as long as the woman is faithful because she will feal fulfilled by who she is used to having.
Besides, another great side effect for women being so emotionally wired is their sexuality is also connected to their feelings of security and having a secure future, men who are successful are more likely to please a woman on a regular basis than a man who is not.
Again, I am not talking about all women, just the ones who have an unreasonable hatred of a great woman. You need to stop taking a small comment about a small group of women and trying to make it seem like I am applying that standard to all women because I am not.
Some just do not agree with her, but even Chi is showing how she agrees with many of her views so based on Chi as an example.....why hate her?
I am only speaking about the women who call Palin ugly names and such, you don't behave that way unless you hate someone.
I am a conservative and I have never said any liberal man getting elected would be a massive step backward for all mankind. I do not make attacking the opposition a purely emotional thing. To me it is all about the bottom line, will this person help or hurt the things I cherish the most and that is it. I do not and never will hate Obama or any other person of a different party.
If anything i am faster to dislike people who claim to be conservative then move to the liberal agenda like Bush did in his last couple years in office, I honestly disliked him for that a lot.
They have said that too but of course that statement is hateful. That her being elected is a massive step backward for "ALL WOMEN" is as hateful as it gets for mainstream news. They had to maintain a modicum of restraint for the press releases but I gurantee you that these same women were wishing Palin would die.
Just like a couple members of this forum who were attackinf how she dressed, and everything else that had nothing to do with her views.
No saying Sarah would ba a massive step back for all women is hate, attacking her children is hate, calling her ugly names is hate, the out of control nature most of them display tword Sarah is because of hate.
I have never said Obama is a step backward for all men. I have never attacked his family or how his wife dresses now have I?
I do not like Obama because of his socialist agenda but I don't hate him. You can claim many women do not hate Sarah as well but the kinds of "PERSONAL" attacks proves a much different picture than your willing to admit to.
Ahhlee
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I read the interesting article you provided in your link about how women didn't support Palin based on petty jealousy over her physical attractiveness.
But you realize it was an editorial. Editorials, while often persuasive, represent an opinion...not proven facts.
If you had offered me a poll done on female voters who specifically listed that they did not support Palin based on reasons such as:
A. I think she's a ***** and I'm totally jealous
B. She's pretty and that makes me feel threatened
C. I wish I had ***** like hers
D. I perceive her as superior to me physically and I don't like that!
THEN I would be swayed. As it stands, I am not.
Palin lost a lot of her female supporters after her Katie Couric interview. Let's face it...she didn't exactly put on a stellar performance. She did much better during her debate against Biden, but while she gained some women back on her side it simply wasn't enough at that point to win the election.
Most women are worred about political issues that affect women: health care, abortion/family planning, domestic violence, education, etc... Palin is super conservative and if a woman's political leanings aren't as such, odds are she's not going to be in support of having someone like Palin heading up her country and making huge socio/economic decisions that could affect her life.
I just wish some of you would give women some credit. We are perfectly capable of making an informed and educated decision when it comes to voting people into office and the political affairs of this nation. For the sweeping majority of us, our vote does NOT come down to childish, petty motives. In other words, the "She just hates Palin because she's pretty!" argument is really insulting, sexist and quite frankly....ignorant.
timesjoke
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Ali,
Nobody said a woman cannot be concerned about real issues. Not me and not IWS.
Your mixing two completely different things here and calling them the same. In one hand there are women who do just as you said and consider all the issues and make an informed decision. On the other hand there are women who slam Sarah on her fashion, attack her children, attack her husband (at least she has one), etc.....
All you have to do is ask yourself one simple question to see if your a hater.......
Did you ever attack her on a personal level?
If you ever found yourself slamming her because of her glasses or making fun of her daughter getting pregnant then you are one of the women I am describing. If your one of the women who had to go to those extra lengths to not only be vocal against her views but to also attack her as a person, well that is crossing the line of hatred.
I made a point I would like you to speak on in my post to you, where have I ever called Obama a step backward for all men? Where have I called his children horrid names like the **** name liberals placed on Sarah's daughter? Where did I ever go past policies and fears of policies to come and go after Obama in the same ferocious way many people went after Sarah Ali?
You can't possibly be trying to say you cannot see the difference I am speaking on......can you?
I would like to point out what you have in your sig:
The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself. - Ben Franklin
Do you believe in this idea?
Well Obama and Biden do not. Neither does Pelosi or Reed.
Sarah Palin does.
Core values, the little details do not matter as much as the core values. At the core most of the Liberals in power do not want to follow the Constitution.......do you?
Nobody said a woman cannot be concerned about real issues. Not me and not IWS.
Your mixing two completely different things here and calling them the same. In one hand there are women who do just as you said and consider all the issues and make an informed decision. On the other hand there are women who slam Sarah on her fashion, attack her children, attack her husband (at least she has one), etc.....
All you have to do is ask yourself one simple question to see if your a hater.......
Did you ever attack her on a personal level?
If you ever found yourself slamming her because of her glasses or making fun of her daughter getting pregnant then you are one of the women I am describing. If your one of the women who had to go to those extra lengths to not only be vocal against her views but to also attack her as a person, well that is crossing the line of hatred.
I made a point I would like you to speak on in my post to you, where have I ever called Obama a step backward for all men? Where have I called his children horrid names like the **** name liberals placed on Sarah's daughter? Where did I ever go past policies and fears of policies to come and go after Obama in the same ferocious way many people went after Sarah Ali?
You can't possibly be trying to say you cannot see the difference I am speaking on......can you?
I would like to point out what you have in your sig:
The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself. - Ben Franklin
Do you believe in this idea?
Well Obama and Biden do not. Neither does Pelosi or Reed.
Sarah Palin does.
Core values, the little details do not matter as much as the core values. At the core most of the Liberals in power do not want to follow the Constitution.......do you?
I know I'd be happy if I was a woman forced to carry my rapists fetus to term ala Sarah Palin's personal idea of happiness..
Shoulda used some of that money to keep her teen daughter from gettin' knocked up.. but.. they got money.. so it's ok.. Yet.. she's got the urge to tell every other women in the country what to do with their reproductive systems..
I'm so jealous of her.. she's so beautiful.. sniff.. sniff.. Classy lady.. On Sundays in church for a couple hours..
ImWithStupid
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First off, she never said this. All she ever said is that she personally is against abortion, but feels that the legality should be determined by each state and the people of that state, not the federal government.
Second, did you just admit to being a woman, because we were talking about how "women" view other women? <psst, that's kinda how it sounded
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ImWithStupid
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Not even talking about the parenting job.