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On Feb 26, 6:01 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On 25 Feb 2007 17:30:16 -0800, in alt.atheism
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> <1172453415.648942.236...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
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> >On Feb 25, 4:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On 25 Feb 2007 14:57:14 -0800, in alt.atheism
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >> <1172444233.997528.321...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >> >On Feb 25, 10:42?am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >> On 25 Feb 2007 07:58:10 -0800, in alt.atheism
> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >> >> <1172419090.759680.19...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:
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> >> >> >On Feb 23, 9:22?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >> >> On 23 Feb 2007 18:09:54 -0800, in alt.atheism
> >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> <1172282994.677931.75...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:
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> >> >> >> >On Feb 23, 11:05?am, "jl" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Feb 22, 12:18 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com>, i. e., Winnie thePooh, wrote:
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> >> >> >> >> ...]
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> >> >> >> >> > I have never appeared in court with a lawyer. !lways speak for
> >> >> >> >> > myself. !lways request trial by jury and then appeal the case on
> >> >> >> >> > the grounds that I was denied trial by jury.
>
> >> >> >> >> That must be the reason for your acrimony against the courts. /u
> >> >> >> >> bumble and lose and then blame the lawyers and judges for your defeat.
>
> >> >> >> >> If you're as bad a lawyer as you are at furnishing caselaw for such
> >> >> >> >> zany charges as blaming Thurgood Marshall for taking away your 6th
> >> >> >> >> Amendment rights, I can understand why you're losing.
>
> >> >> >> >> Marshall voted with the majority in the 7 to 2 Suprme Court decision,
> >> >> >> >> _Duncan v. Louisiana,_ which required jury trials in all 50 states for
> >> >> >> >> criminal defendants accused of misdemeanors. 5ncan applied the 6th
> >> >> >> >> Amendment to the states by incorporating it into the purview of the
> >> >> >> >> 14th Amendment.
>
> >> >> >> >> So your accusation against Justice Thurgood Marshall, who was denied
> >> >> >> >> admission to law school in Maryland because he was black, is grossly
> >> >> >> >> in error.
>
> >> >> >> >All I know about it is that states started denying trial by jury.
>
> >> >> >> You assert that, but when asked to provide evidence or citations to
> >> >> >> support your claim, you just whine.
>
> >> >> >> >When it all started everyone was quoting a minority opinion written by
> >> >> >> >Thurgood Marshall.
>
> >> >> >> You assert that, but when asked to provide evidence or citations to
> >> >> >> support your claim, you just whine.
>
> >> >> >> >It has nothing to do with his race. % was a
> >> >> >> >Supreme Court Justice who saw a reason to deny trial by jury that all
> >> >> >> >lawyers bought into because they saw it would increase their status
> >> >> >> >and financial well-being.
>
> >> >> >> You assert that, but when asked to provide evidence or citations to
> >> >> >> support your claim, you just whine and defame lawyers and judges.
>
> >> >> >Well, I have gone into court as a defendant, asked for trial by jury,
> >> >> >which is my guaranteed Constitutional right, and been told by judges
> >> >> >and prosecuting attorneys that I had no such right.
>
> >> >> As I said, I don't believe you.
>
> >> >> >Whether or not
> >> >> >Thurgood Marshall was the first Supreme Court justice to advocate
> >> >> >denying this right is irrelevant. (ere were probably others before
> >> >> >him, but when he did it, lawyers as a group endorsed his opinion as
> >> >> >authoritative. (e other members of the Supreme Court who have
> >> >> >continued on in this injustice are equally responsible.
>
> >> >> You'll have to show me the decision that supports your claim. I am not
> >> >> familiar with one that does. In short, it appears that you are making
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> >> >I am not making anything up.
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> lmost all Americans who appear in court
>
> >> >today are told by judges and prosecutors that they do not have the
> >> >right to trial by jury.
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> >> Liar.-
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> >An accusation from an atheist does not change reality.
> >Robert B. Winn
>
> You've made a claim that you cannot support. You've made prior claims
> that are demonstrably wrong. It is appropriate and necessary to let
> people know that you are untrustworthy. Your claim to be religious does
> not change that.- Hide quoted text -
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Spoken like an atheist. You have said that our freedom depends on
permission from atheists. No, sorry, our freedom has nothing to do
with you or your corrupt philosophies. Jeswus Christ was the one who
said we were free.
Robert B. Winn
> On 25 Feb 2007 17:30:16 -0800, in alt.atheism
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> <1172453415.648942.236...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>
>
>
> >On Feb 25, 4:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On 25 Feb 2007 14:57:14 -0800, in alt.atheism
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >> <1172444233.997528.321...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >> >On Feb 25, 10:42?am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >> On 25 Feb 2007 07:58:10 -0800, in alt.atheism
> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >> >> <1172419090.759680.19...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >> >> >On Feb 23, 9:22?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >> >> On 23 Feb 2007 18:09:54 -0800, in alt.atheism
> >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> <1172282994.677931.75...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >> >> >> >On Feb 23, 11:05?am, "jl" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Feb 22, 12:18 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com>, i. e., Winnie thePooh, wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> ...]
>
> >> >> >> >> > I have never appeared in court with a lawyer. !lways speak for
> >> >> >> >> > myself. !lways request trial by jury and then appeal the case on
> >> >> >> >> > the grounds that I was denied trial by jury.
>
> >> >> >> >> That must be the reason for your acrimony against the courts. /u
> >> >> >> >> bumble and lose and then blame the lawyers and judges for your defeat.
>
> >> >> >> >> If you're as bad a lawyer as you are at furnishing caselaw for such
> >> >> >> >> zany charges as blaming Thurgood Marshall for taking away your 6th
> >> >> >> >> Amendment rights, I can understand why you're losing.
>
> >> >> >> >> Marshall voted with the majority in the 7 to 2 Suprme Court decision,
> >> >> >> >> _Duncan v. Louisiana,_ which required jury trials in all 50 states for
> >> >> >> >> criminal defendants accused of misdemeanors. 5ncan applied the 6th
> >> >> >> >> Amendment to the states by incorporating it into the purview of the
> >> >> >> >> 14th Amendment.
>
> >> >> >> >> So your accusation against Justice Thurgood Marshall, who was denied
> >> >> >> >> admission to law school in Maryland because he was black, is grossly
> >> >> >> >> in error.
>
> >> >> >> >All I know about it is that states started denying trial by jury.
>
> >> >> >> You assert that, but when asked to provide evidence or citations to
> >> >> >> support your claim, you just whine.
>
> >> >> >> >When it all started everyone was quoting a minority opinion written by
> >> >> >> >Thurgood Marshall.
>
> >> >> >> You assert that, but when asked to provide evidence or citations to
> >> >> >> support your claim, you just whine.
>
> >> >> >> >It has nothing to do with his race. % was a
> >> >> >> >Supreme Court Justice who saw a reason to deny trial by jury that all
> >> >> >> >lawyers bought into because they saw it would increase their status
> >> >> >> >and financial well-being.
>
> >> >> >> You assert that, but when asked to provide evidence or citations to
> >> >> >> support your claim, you just whine and defame lawyers and judges.
>
> >> >> >Well, I have gone into court as a defendant, asked for trial by jury,
> >> >> >which is my guaranteed Constitutional right, and been told by judges
> >> >> >and prosecuting attorneys that I had no such right.
>
> >> >> As I said, I don't believe you.
>
> >> >> >Whether or not
> >> >> >Thurgood Marshall was the first Supreme Court justice to advocate
> >> >> >denying this right is irrelevant. (ere were probably others before
> >> >> >him, but when he did it, lawyers as a group endorsed his opinion as
> >> >> >authoritative. (e other members of the Supreme Court who have
> >> >> >continued on in this injustice are equally responsible.
>
> >> >> You'll have to show me the decision that supports your claim. I am not
> >> >> familiar with one that does. In short, it appears that you are making
> >> >> things up.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> >I am not making anything up.
>
> lmost all Americans who appear in court
>
> >> >today are told by judges and prosecutors that they do not have the
> >> >right to trial by jury.
> >> text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> Liar.-
>
> >An accusation from an atheist does not change reality.
> >Robert B. Winn
>
> You've made a claim that you cannot support. You've made prior claims
> that are demonstrably wrong. It is appropriate and necessary to let
> people know that you are untrustworthy. Your claim to be religious does
> not change that.- Hide quoted text -
> -
Spoken like an atheist. You have said that our freedom depends on
permission from atheists. No, sorry, our freedom has nothing to do
with you or your corrupt philosophies. Jeswus Christ was the one who
said we were free.
Robert B. Winn