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On Feb 27, 1:06 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 8:20?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
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>
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> > On 26 Feb 2007 19:08:45 -0800, in alt.atheism
> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > <1172545725.523360.319...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > >On Feb 26, 5:32 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >> On 25 Feb 2007 17:23:09 -0800, in alt.atheism
> > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > >> <1172452989.091439.309...@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > ...
>
> > >> >The Supreme Court decided in the Dred Scott case that a runaway slave
> > >> >had to be returned to his owner if he fled to another state. ?That was
> > >> >the last Supreme Court ruling on slavery. ?So now you are saying that
> > >> >the Supreme Court has made another erroneous decision. ?Well, that
> > >> >does not really surprise me.
>
> > >> What an absurd claim. At the time, the decision was correct, even though
> > >> it was absolutely repugnant from the modern viewpoint for almost all
> > >> Americans. The Congress and states changed the Constitution so that the
> > >> Dred Scott case is no longer valid.
>
> > >> You really have no idea what you are talking about, whether in religion
> > >> or law. I would not be surprised based on your behavior here if you were
> > >> an ignorant blowhard in other areas of knowledge as well.- Hide quoted text -
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> > >If you want to return runaway slaves, that would be your choice.
>
> > You, of course, know you are making an utterly absurd claim.
>
> > >My opinion is that you have no right to try to practice slavery.
>
> > Yet the Bible that you worship approves of slavery. Why do you disagree
> > with the Bible?
>
> I don't worship the Bible. Paul's instructions on the subject were to
> a slave who had run away from a church member who had slaves and to
> the slaveowner himself. His concern at the time was to prevent an
> outbreak of runaway slaves that would bring persecution on the
> church. Paul was not in favor of slavery.
> Robert B. Winn
Winnie, it's a sin to testify falsely:
I wish those who unsettle you would mutilate themselves! (Gal 5:12)
Look out for the dogs, look out for the evil-workers look out for
those who mutilate the flesh. (Phil. 3:2)
Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not
with eye service, as men pleasers, but in singleness of heart. (Col.
3:22)
If any one will not work, let him not eat. (2 Thess.. 3:10)
Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. (Col.
3:18)
Let her wear a veil. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he
is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. (Neither
was man created for the woman, but woman for man.) (1 Cor. 11:6-9)
If any one is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you
received, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:9)
God gave them (the Jews) a spirit of stupor, eyes that should not see
and ears that should not hear, down to this very day. (Rom. 11:8)
It is shameful for a woman to speak in church. (1 Cor. 14:35)
I magnify my ministry in order to make my fellow Jews jealous, and
thus save some of them. (Rom. 11:13-14).
Paul clearly approved of slavery, subjugation of women, anti-Semitism,
and other brutalities. I'm sure I remember Paul approving of beating
a servant too, and will try to enlighten you on that when I find it.
> On Feb 26, 8:20?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 26 Feb 2007 19:08:45 -0800, in alt.atheism
> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > <1172545725.523360.319...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > >On Feb 26, 5:32 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >> On 25 Feb 2007 17:23:09 -0800, in alt.atheism
> > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > >> <1172452989.091439.309...@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > ...
>
> > >> >The Supreme Court decided in the Dred Scott case that a runaway slave
> > >> >had to be returned to his owner if he fled to another state. ?That was
> > >> >the last Supreme Court ruling on slavery. ?So now you are saying that
> > >> >the Supreme Court has made another erroneous decision. ?Well, that
> > >> >does not really surprise me.
>
> > >> What an absurd claim. At the time, the decision was correct, even though
> > >> it was absolutely repugnant from the modern viewpoint for almost all
> > >> Americans. The Congress and states changed the Constitution so that the
> > >> Dred Scott case is no longer valid.
>
> > >> You really have no idea what you are talking about, whether in religion
> > >> or law. I would not be surprised based on your behavior here if you were
> > >> an ignorant blowhard in other areas of knowledge as well.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >If you want to return runaway slaves, that would be your choice.
>
> > You, of course, know you are making an utterly absurd claim.
>
> > >My opinion is that you have no right to try to practice slavery.
>
> > Yet the Bible that you worship approves of slavery. Why do you disagree
> > with the Bible?
>
> I don't worship the Bible. Paul's instructions on the subject were to
> a slave who had run away from a church member who had slaves and to
> the slaveowner himself. His concern at the time was to prevent an
> outbreak of runaway slaves that would bring persecution on the
> church. Paul was not in favor of slavery.
> Robert B. Winn
Winnie, it's a sin to testify falsely:
I wish those who unsettle you would mutilate themselves! (Gal 5:12)
Look out for the dogs, look out for the evil-workers look out for
those who mutilate the flesh. (Phil. 3:2)
Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not
with eye service, as men pleasers, but in singleness of heart. (Col.
3:22)
If any one will not work, let him not eat. (2 Thess.. 3:10)
Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. (Col.
3:18)
Let her wear a veil. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he
is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. (Neither
was man created for the woman, but woman for man.) (1 Cor. 11:6-9)
If any one is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you
received, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:9)
God gave them (the Jews) a spirit of stupor, eyes that should not see
and ears that should not hear, down to this very day. (Rom. 11:8)
It is shameful for a woman to speak in church. (1 Cor. 14:35)
I magnify my ministry in order to make my fellow Jews jealous, and
thus save some of them. (Rom. 11:13-14).
Paul clearly approved of slavery, subjugation of women, anti-Semitism,
and other brutalities. I'm sure I remember Paul approving of beating
a servant too, and will try to enlighten you on that when I find it.