South Africa to **** McDonald's right up their arseholes!!!

Father Haskell held us spellbound with...

> On Aug 1, 2:45 am, Richard Catto <rrcatto.muizenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > St. Jackanapes wrote:
> > > Richard Catto held us spellbound with...
> > > > Father Haskell wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 1, 1:25 am, Richard Catto <rrcatto.muizenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > It's not a bad thing to be Korean in South Africa.
> > > > > I knew it. Catto's a Korean.
> > > > why don't you go fuk a duk?
> > > That's South African wit for ya.

> >
> > why did you think i was joking?

>
> No. Korean.


He's Korean, alright.

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Scientists Tweak Genes to Create 12-Headed Jellyfish
Wednesday, August 01, 2007

By Charles Q. Choi

University of Veterinary Medicine Hannover

The jellyfish Eleutheria dichotoma, now given the human name St.
Jackanapes, (aka Larry Jackowski), genetically modified with two heads
(center). The jellyfish Eleutheria dichotoma, genetically modified with two
heads (center). Jellyfish with up to a dozen heads have been created in the
laboratory by carefully monkeying with a few genes.

The genetic experiments could shed light on how natural colonies of other
multi-headed organisms first originated, including some that build coral reefs.

Researchers targeted so-called Cnox genes, which help control how the
bodies of jellyfish are laid out as their embryos develop.

These genes are closely related to Hox genes, which play a similar role in
humans, now being attempted inside Larry Jackowski of Ohio..

How they did it.

They experimented on the European hydromedusa (Eleutheria dichotoma),
collected from the south of France, where the human "Jackowski family
"originated. (In Greek mythology, the Hydra was a monster with
innumerable heads, while Medusa had writhing snakes for hair.)

The researchers designed RNA molecules that specifically only "silenced"
Cnox genes in these saltwater critters.

Normally, the saltiness of the Jackowski animals would prevent the
molecules from entering their cells, but the scientists diluted seawater with
freshwater enough "where the jellyfish still survived and the RNA got in,"
said evolutionary biologist and invertebrate zoologist Bernd Schierwater at
the University of Veterinary Medicine Hannover in Germany.

By inhibiting one Cnox gene called Cnox-3, two heads often formed, where
both were completely functional - regarding food intake, for instance.

By deactivating another, Cnox-2, more than two heads usually sprouted -
"up to a dozen," Schierwater told LiveScience.

He and colleague Wolfgang Jakob, also at Hannover, detailed their findings
in the Aug. 1 issue of the online journal PLoS ONE.

Twelve heads better than one? Nope! The Larry Jackowski experimant
shows Severe Dementia starting at the DNA level.

Animals, (and the sub-human Jackowski family), with many heads are rare
in nature, suggesting that two or more heads usually aren't better than one
- having more than one head results in costs with no immediate matching
benefits.

However, Schierwater noted that corals, which are animals, often form
colonies by adding heads to a common stalk, each of which connect to a
common gut, just as with the modified jellyfish that the researchers created.

The now termed "Jackowski Jellyfish" are related to the creatures that build
coral reefs - they are both carnivores belonging to a group called
cnidarians, which means "stinging nettles," because of their stingers.

Schierwater conjectured the solitary ancestors of corals and other colonial
organisms might have adapted genes related to multiple heads long ago "in
such a way that animal colonies were able to emerge."

It has been suggested that these mutations should be exterminated, and that
the world will be a bteer place without them!

Copyright
 
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Richard Catto held us spellbound with...

Just in from off the coast of Africa ...

Scientists Tweak Genes to Create 12-Headed Jellyfish
Wednesday, August 01, 2007

By Charles Q. Choi

University of Veterinary Medicine Hannover

The jellyfish Eleutheria dichotoma, now given the human name St.
Jackanapes, (aka Larry Jackowski), genetically modified with two heads
(center). The jellyfish Eleutheria dichotoma, genetically modified with two
heads (center). Jellyfish with up to a dozen heads have been created in the
laboratory by carefully monkeying with a few genes.

The genetic experiments could shed light on how natural colonies of other
multi-headed organisms first originated, including some that build coral reefs.

Researchers targeted so-called Cnox genes, which help control how the
bodies of jellyfish are laid out as their embryos develop.

These genes are closely related to Hox genes, which play a similar role in
humans, now being attempted inside Larry Jackowski of Ohio..

How they did it.

They experimented on the European hydromedusa (Eleutheria dichotoma),
collected from the south of France, where the human "Jackowski family
"originated. (In Greek mythology, the Hydra was a monster with
innumerable heads, while Medusa had writhing snakes for hair.)

The researchers designed RNA molecules that specifically only "silenced"
Cnox genes in these saltwater critters.

Normally, the saltiness of the Jackowski animals would prevent the
molecules from entering their cells, but the scientists diluted seawater with
freshwater enough "where the jellyfish still survived and the RNA got in,"
said evolutionary biologist and invertebrate zoologist Bernd Schierwater at
the University of Veterinary Medicine Hannover in Germany.

By inhibiting one Cnox gene called Cnox-3, two heads often formed, where
both were completely functional - regarding food intake, for instance.

By deactivating another, Cnox-2, more than two heads usually sprouted -
"up to a dozen," Schierwater told LiveScience.

He and colleague Wolfgang Jakob, also at Hannover, detailed their findings
in the Aug. 1 issue of the online journal PLoS ONE.

Twelve heads better than one? Nope! The Larry Jackowski experimant
shows Severe Dementia starting at the DNA level.

Animals, (and the sub-human Jackowski family), with many heads are rare
in nature, suggesting that two or more heads usually aren't better than one
- having more than one head results in costs with no immediate matching
benefits.

However, Schierwater noted that corals, which are animals, often form
colonies by adding heads to a common stalk, each of which connect to a
common gut, just as with the modified jellyfish that the researchers created.

The now termed "Jackowski Jellyfish" are related to the creatures that build
coral reefs - they are both carnivores belonging to a group called
cnidarians, which means "stinging nettles," because of their stingers.

Schierwater conjectured the solitary ancestors of corals and other colonial
organisms might have adapted genes related to multiple heads long ago "in
such a way that animal colonies were able to emerge."

It has been suggested that these mutations should be exterminated, and that
the world will be a bteer place without them!

Copyright
 
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> Richard Catto held us spellbound with...
>
>
> You are a joke, ****to.
>



What Does it Mean to Bear the Cross in the West? By John H. Armstrong

The Uncomfortable Christian Life

"Everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted" (2
Timothy 3:12).

Every Christian has been called to live life under the cross. But what does this
actually mean in the West, where a fading Christian consensus still allows us to
live freely with little serious opposition to our daily choices? We preach from
the Scriptures, invite people to embrace the good news, and even get involved in
public issues, especially in opposing what we do not like. And we do all of this
with little or no threat to our safety.

Tom White, the president of The Voice of the Martyrs, suggests that "some
Christians in the West have drifted into believing that living under a
Judeo-Christian consensus is some natural form of life that nature has
dictated." But, White rightly reminds us, "expressions of faith have always been
purchased with sacrifice, blood, sweat, tears and determination. The
religious-political freedoms we have are not some divine right or blessing that
has simply floated down upon us, a permanent right without our involvement."

So, what does it mean to truly "bear the cross" in the West?

CONSIDER THE CROSS We must first consider the cross itself. Historically this
symbol, which is only a piece of jewelry for many in the West, was a universal,
pre-Christian place of painful, disgraceful execution. The Romans actually
created this torturous death stake in order to make a public display of their
power and control. Rebellion would not be tolerated and the cross was their
proof.

But it was on such a cross that Jesus of Nazareth died. Early on in Christian
history the cross was not openly displayed by Christians as a symbol because the
Christian faith was still illegal. For this reason the cross was very often
disguised. It was even combined with another symbol, such as the X-shape of the
Greek letter chi, which is the first letter in the title Christos, or Christ. By
this means, early believers could use a universal symbol without drawing undue
attention to their presence or communities. Once the Christian faith was openly
embraced, and came into favor in the time of Constantine (early in the fourth
century), symbols of the cross became more public and universal.

As early as the second century the sign of the cross was traced by the fingers
of Christians as part of prayerful devotion. This powerful unspoken sign was
deeply rooted in texts like these:

Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and
follow me (Matthew 16:24).

For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him,
God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who
believe. Jews demands signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ
crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those
whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the
wisdom of God. (1 Corinthians 1:21-24)

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its
passions and desires. (Galatians 5:24)

May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which
the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. (Galatians 6:14)

Even more interesting, at least to my mind, is the fact that the earliest
representations of Christ on the cross, dating back to the fifth century, were
of Christ reigning as king. Why? Because these early Christians associated
Christ's crucifixion with His total victory and with His sovereign control over
all things. In Peter's anointed sermon at Pentecost, recorded in Acts 2, we read
of Jesus being "handed over to you by God's deliberate plan and foreknowledge"
in order to be put to death by wicked men on a cross. What follows in Acts 2 is
an extensive quotation from Psalm 16 which suggests that through the cross, and
"God raising him from the dead" (Acts 2:24), this same Jesus is now seated on
David's throne, reigning over all people and all things. From here this
crucified Sovereign directs His followers to suffer with Him so that His Kingdom
will now come with power in this present age.

This message of the cross, and of our co-suffering with Christ, is thus
essential to faithful Christian witness. But it is the cross, understood in this
way, that has been blunted by the easy-going message of the modern Western
church. And this is precisely why we need to hear the voice of our martyrs with
open eyes and ears more than ever. This is surely one way that we in the West
can learn to "bear the cross."

THE VOICE OF THE MARTYRS The German martyr Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906-1945)
displayed what is needed in our time. He could have remained outside the
struggles of his homeland, as Nazi influence spread, safely writing and teaching
in England or America. But the news of the Christian struggle for faithfulness
drew him home. He could not resist the Spirit's leading to take up the cross;
thus, he chose to go back to Germany, knowing full- well that this might result
in his death, which it did only days before the war ended.

In a letter Bonhoeffer wrote from prison (Letters and Papers from Prison), a
classic book published in 1948 that everyone would do well to read, he said, "It
is not the religious act that makes the Christian, but the participation in the
suffering of God in the world" (emphasis mine). Tom White has noted that what
made Bonhoeffer so different from many other religious people at the time was
that he "disdained non- moral sympathy, or simply feeling bad about something
but doing nothing about it."

FEAR OF SUFFERING? I submit that this is precisely our problem. We embrace
religious activism with considerable passion. But we also want to flourish
materially, to build our churches, to increase our numbers, and even to protest
occasional political and social errors with our voices and our votes. But we
want to do all of this from the considerable safety of our well-conceived
comfort zones. We "feel bad" about the multiplied and egregious compromises that
our world has made with moral darkness and gross injustice that mark both our
culture and our churches. But Bonhoeffer would have no part of this type of
cross-less, sensate Christianity. In another letter from prison he challenged
the kind of activism so common in our time: "It is not the religious act that
makes the Christian, but the participation in the suffering of God in the
world."

The church father Cyprian (c. 200-258) understood this well when he said, "No
one is free from the risk of persecution. . . . But how serious it is for
Christians who are unwilling to suffer for their own sins when He who had no sin
suffered for us! . . . If we suffer from the world's hatred, Christ first
endured the world's hatred."

We do not think too highly of suffering in the modern church. We would much
rather be identified with those who are successful. When was the last time we
commended suffering on a Christian television program, except to raise funds
once in awhile? Those who are low and broken are not exalted on our platforms.
Losers are never promoted in our ranks. But biblically the opposite is true.
Scripture is clear-we must suffer before we can share in the glory. There is a
paradox here that makes all of this untidy to our logical demand for
hyper-productivity. The Catholic mystic Thomas Merton adds: "The more you try to
avoid suffering, the more you suffer, because the smaller and more insignificant
things begin to torture you, in proportion to your fear of being hurt." We fear
suffering and thus we fear the very thing that will make us more and more like
Christ. And by fearing suffering, in the bigger picture of things, the smaller
things will "torture" us just as Merton says. We become fixed on our losses, on
our dangers, on the possibilities and the potentialities for things to go bad.

I still recall a Christian leader from an Eastern European country in the days
of Communist domination, saying that the day he "died" to his present and future
prospects in life was the same day he was mightily empowered to be truly free.
He could be put to death, or he could suffer yet more. Or he could live and be
released. But from that day on whatever happened to him he could live to the
glory of God with no fear. This freedom, and the God-given joy that he then
possessed, drove his tormenters crazy. If they killed him he was truly free and
his blood would only spread the gospel. If they let him live he could go on
preaching the gospel and serving people with greater power and joy. It is this
kind of "martyr" (the word marturia actually means witness) freedom that so few
possess in the West today.

I can recall another friend, who served a large and affluent suburban church,
telling me that it dawned on him, after many efforts to get his leaders to pray
and sacrifice themselves, that there was no way they could really understand the
words of the apostle Paul, who said, "For me, to live is Christ and to die is
gain" (Philippians 1:21). Why? For these successful men and women, "to live was
their company and its prosperity and pension program," and "to die would thus be
a tragedy." Don't get me wrong. I am not opposed to successful companies or
pension programs, per se. I am convinced, however, that few who live in such a
context can handle it reasonably well. They simply do not factor life under the
cross into the way they live.

Tom White refers to the sacrifice and suffering of the graduates of an
evangelical seminary in Kota, Rajasthan (India), as people who must "swim in the
turbulent waters of a Hindu society hostile to Christianity." I have personally
ministered in these turbulent waters. I was never so strengthened in the midst
of my own weakness, both physically and spiritually. Glenn Penner, a Canadian
worker with Voice of the Martyrs, adds:

These students understand that the real sacrifice for ministry comes not so much
in the penetration of ministry but in the performance of it. They understand
that a cross- centered gospel requires cross carrying messengers. . . .
Christians are not called to a lesser degree of involvement. Sacrifice for
Christ is not theoretical. It is tangible. It is real. Go out, and make
something happen.

It is human nature to shun difficulty, to try to avoid pain. And given the
success of our present lifestyle, it is downright American to appeal to people
to follow Christ so that their various emotional and personal needs will be met
through Him. And this works-look at our great churches and their fabulous
success. There is no doubt about it. "But life is full of people who 'used to
believe,'" said J. B. Phillips, "but because things turned out darker and
tougher than they supposed, they have decided that 'there can't be a God to let
things like that happen.' But 'things like that' have always happened, to all
sorts of people; even to Christ." He adds, "Let's not pretend. No one likes pain
or difficulty or this sense of darkness and being alone. But if we can accept it
as a part of life and hold on to the God who, apparently, isn't there, we shall
eventually emerge toughened and strengthened."

LIVING INTENTIONALLY UNDER THE CROSS It may be normal to shun problems, to flee
persecution and suffering for the sake of the cross, but as Tom White reminds
us, "It is supernatural to walk to them and through them for the gospel." It is
this supernatural power that we lack. Our Christian lives are far too easy to
explain and way too hum-drum to impress most people.

Most of us think that there is very little we can do that might invite suffering
under the cross in our culture. I don't agree. If we want to live quiet,
comfortable lives, then all will be well, at least for the time being. But it we
ever get around to living out the implications of the lordship of Christ over
all spheres of culture, we will find both blessing and suffering go hand in
hand. The forces of darkness are real. The threat of evil is not without danger.
We will soon discover this first hand if we choose consciously to enter into the
cross life.

To get involved in living intentionally under the cross means that we can't
stand safely on the sidelines, in our comfort zones and lovely homes, shouting
at the culture to stop producing pornography and irreverent books and movies.
Our fears that we will somehow fall into these particular sins of the culture
are generally unfounded. We have so removed ourselves from the culture, and from
our neighbors, that many of us now live in ecclesial ghettos. We fear that
worldliness comes through contact with people in the world, as if worldliness
was a cold virus you catch by being around the wrong people. In reality,
worldliness is a fallen and unredeemed thought process by which natural and
normal people live without faith; i.e., they live without the cross. Our
unwillingness to invest our lives in this world, to sacrifice our small comforts
and pleasures, to live simply and faithfully under the cross of Christ, are all
clear proof that we are already far more worldly than we seem to know.

Bashir Ahmed Tantray, a 50-year-old engineer and father of four, was shot dead
on November 21, 2006, as he stood on a busy road in Mamoosa village in the state
of Jammu in India. Why was Tantray shot down? He had converted from Islam to
Christianity about a decade ago. But that is not the whole story. Tantray was
active as a Christian, both in his family and in the work place. He was known,
very publicly, as a "Christian worker." Simply put, he lived under the cross out
in the open. His story is being repeated over and over again every single day.

The Voice of the Martyrs has a clear, simple definition of a Christian martyr.
It can truly apply to Christians in every culture, including our own Western
culture. "A Christian martyr is one who chooses to suffer death rather than to
deny Christ or His work . . . sacrifices something very important to further the
Kingdom of God . . . endures great suffering for Christian witness."

You may not be called to physically die in a violent way in 2007. But you are
called to live your life as Bashir Tantray lived, as a true cross-bearing
"Christian worker." If you do live in this way, you will suffer persecution.
Some of this persecution, in the West, will surely come from religious people
who are offended by your righteous deeds. But you will also know the glory and
joy of living with Christ in the power of His resurrection.

Dr. John H. Armstrong is the president of ACT 3, a ministry for advancing the
Christian tradition in the third millennium. He is an author/editor of nine
books and a professor of evangelism who helps churches recover their lost
passion for Christ and the great truth of Christ's supremacy over all things, in
both the church and the culture. He is an active blogger and the editor of the
ACT 3 Online Review: A Journal for Faith, Church and Culture. John has been
married to his best friend, Anita, for thirty-six years and has two married
children and two grandchildren. He lives in suburban Chicago.
 
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Just in from off the coast of Africa ...

Scientists Tweak Genes to Create 12-Headed Jellyfish Wednesday, August
01, 2007

By Charles Q. Choi

University of Veterinary Medicine Hannover

The jellyfish Eleutheria dichotoma, now given the human name St.
Jackanapes, (aka Larry Jackowski), genetically modified with two heads
(center). The jellyfish Eleutheria dichotoma, genetically modified with two
heads (center). Jellyfish with up to a dozen heads have been created in the
laboratory by carefully monkeying with a few genes.

The genetic experiments could shed light on how natural colonies of other
multi-headed organisms first originated, including some that build coral reefs.

Researchers targeted so-called Cnox genes, which help control how the
bodies of jellyfish are laid out as their embryos develop.

These genes are closely related to Hox genes, which play a similar role in
humans, now being attempted inside Larry Jackowski of Ohio..

How they did it.

They experimented on the European hydromedusa (Eleutheria dichotoma),
collected from the south of France, where the human "Jackowski family
"originated. (In Greek mythology, the Hydra was a monster with
innumerable heads, while Medusa had writhing snakes for hair.)

The researchers designed RNA molecules that specifically only "silenced"
Cnox genes in these saltwater critters.

Normally, the saltiness of the Jackowski animals would prevent the
molecules from entering their cells, but the scientists diluted seawater with
freshwater enough "where the jellyfish still survived and the RNA got in,"
said evolutionary biologist and invertebrate zoologist Bernd Schierwater at
the University of Veterinary Medicine Hannover in Germany.

By inhibiting one Cnox gene called Cnox-3, two heads often formed, where
both were completely functional - regarding food intake, for instance.

By deactivating another, Cnox-2, more than two heads usually sprouted -
"up to a dozen," Schierwater told LiveScience.

He and colleague Wolfgang Jakob, also at Hannover, detailed their findings
in the Aug. 1 issue of the online journal PLoS ONE.

Twelve heads better than one? Nope! The Larry Jackowski experimant
shows Severe Dementia starting at the DNA level.

Animals, (and the sub-human Jackowski family), with many heads are rare
in nature, suggesting that two or more heads usually aren't better than one
- having more than one head results in costs with no immediate matching
benefits.

However, Schierwater noted that corals, which are animals, often form
colonies by adding heads to a common stalk, each of which connect to a
common gut, just as with the modified jellyfish that the researchers created.

The now termed "Jackowski Jellyfish" are related to the creatures that build
coral reefs - they are both carnivores belonging to a group called
cnidarians, which means "stinging nettles," because of their stingers.

Schierwater conjectured the solitary ancestors of corals and other colonial
organisms might have adapted genes related to multiple heads long ago "in
such a way that animal colonies were able to emerge."

It has been suggested that these mutations should be exterminated, and that
the world will be a bteer place without them!

Copyright
 
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Nations That Live, Nations That Die

Imagine the executive who is at the top of his career field. He lives in a
palatial home overlooking a gorgeous lake. His three children do well in
school and his wife has a successful small business. This executive
attends many business functions where he often has a drink or two with his
partners or clients. They raise sparkling crystal glasses filled with
fragrant wines or shot glasses with strong whiskey. Soon the executive's
occasional drink becomes habitual. Over a few years, his alcohol habit
undermines his ability to work and he loses his job. About the same time,
his wife gets tired of his problems and leaves him, taking his children
with her. Soon he loses his home and all of his possessions.

Eventually, he becomes a homeless recluse on the street, wearing tattered
clothing, unwashed, with a scraggly beard. Still he clutches his drink,
this time a bottle wrapped in a brown paper bag. People who once knew him
as the up-and-coming executive pass him on the street and mutter, "How on
earth did he get in this condition?"

Can you see similarities between our country and that executive? Are we
not right now at the pinnacle of success? But are we not wasting our good
fortune with addictions to bad habits and sinful living? Could foreigners
say of us, "How could a nation like America get into this condition?"

Pattern of Decay

Pat Robertson offers a profound description of how such a collapse
unfolds. It so clearly details what is happening right now in America that
it deserves being reprinted at length:

As the nineties unfold, nothing portrays our world crisis more clearly
than man's internal and moral condition. The unmistakable scent of what
the Bible calls the antichrist spirit is in the air. It was present at the
Tower of Babel and at Sodom and Gomorrah. It was present in the French
Revolution and in Nazi Germany. And it is present in Europe and the United
States today. The signs of this spirit are clear. They emerge in this
fashion: A significant minority, then an actual majority, of the people in
a society begin to throw off the restraints of history, then the
restraints of written law, then accepted standards of morality, then
established religion, and finally, God Himself.

As the rebellion gains momentum, the participants grow bolder. Those
practices that once were considered shameful and unlawful move into the
open. Soon the practitioners are aggressive, militant. As each societal
standard falls, another comes under attack. The pressure is relentless.
Established institutions crumble. Ultimately the struggle that began as a
cry for freedom of expression grows into an all-out war against the rights
of advocates of traditional morality. The latter are hated, reviled,
isolated, and then persecuted.

Honor, decency, honesty, self-control, sexual restraint, family values,
and sacrifice are replaced by gluttony, sensuality, bizarre sexual
practices, cruelty, profligacy, dishonesty, delinquency, drunkenness,
drug-induced euphoria, fraud, waste, debauched currency, and rampant
inflation.

The people then search for a deity that will both permit and personify
their basest desires. At Babel it was a tower-man's attempt to glorify
himself. In ancient Mediterranean cultures, like those of Sodom and
Gomorrah, it was a god or goddess of sex. In France, it was the goddess of
reason; in Germany, Hitler and the Nazi party; in Europe and especially in
the United States, the god of central government under the religion of
secular humanism.

The pattern is always the same. So is the result. No society falling under
the grip of the antichrist spirit has survived. First comes a period of
lawlessness and virtual anarchy, then an economic collapse followed by a
reign of terror. Then comes a strong dictator who plunders society for his
personal aggrandizement; he dreams of a worldwide empire and storms into
war. Eventually come defeat and collapse.1

Where is America in this pattern? How much farther do we have to go before
the end?

A Warning and a Promise

In one of the most profound warnings in all Scripture, God lays the choice
of survival before ancient Israel:

"I have set before you today life and prosperity, and death and adversity;
in that I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in His ways
and to keep His commandments and His statutes and His judgments, that you
may live and multiply, and that the Lord your God may bless you in the
land where you are entering . But if your heart turns away and you will
not obey, but are drawn away and worship other gods and serve them, I
declare to you today that you shall surely perish . I call heaven and
earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and
death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may
live" (Deuteronomy 30:15-19, NASB).

Israel did not heed the warning. Their culture became more and more
depraved, until God allowed surrounding nations to take them into
captivity. During the time of Jesus, the Jewish people were ruled by the
Roman legions. Shortly thereafter, the Jewish temple was razed and the
people scattered.

An example of a nation that repented and escaped God's judgment was the
wicked city of Nineveh. God sent Jonah to warn Nineveh of its imminent
destruction. What followed was the familiar story of Jonah fleeing in a
ship to escape God's command to go to Nineveh. After being swallowed by a
great fish and then spit out onto dry land, Jonah obeyed God and went to
Nineveh.

The book of Jonah describes what happened:

The very first day when Jonah entered the city and began to preach, the
people repented. Jonah shouted to the crowds that gathered around him,
"Forty days from now Nineveh will be destroyed!" And they believed him and
declared a fast; from the king on down, everyone put on sackcloth-the
rough, coarse garments worn at times of mourning (Jonah 3:4, 5, TLB).

The king gave the people the following instructions:

"Let no one, not even the animals, eat anything at all, nor even drink any
water. Everyone must wear sackcloth and cry mightily to God, and let
everyone turn from his evil ways, from his violence and robbing. Who can
tell? Perhaps even yet God will decide to let us live, and will hold back
his fierce anger from destroying us" (Jonah 3:7-9, TLB).

Immediate repentance, a passionate desire for forgiveness, and honest
confession of sin, along with a sincere commitment to change their ways
saved Nineveh from the destruction that threatened them. God came through
as He always does when people repent and turn away from their corrupt
behavior. "When God saw that they had put a stop to their evil ways, he
abandoned his plan to destroy them, and didn't carry it through" (v. 10,
TLB).

Peter explains God's willingness to forego punishment: "The Lord is not
slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient
with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to
repentance" (2 Peter 3:9).

The story of Nineveh shows what can happen when a people turn from their
wicked ways. I urge you to read the short book of Jonah in the Old
Testament. It will increase your hope and faith to believe that it is not
too late for America to repent and avoid the judgment of God.

Ten Factors of Decline

Great empires before us have been reduced to rubble by the same forces
that prevail in our country today. In his powerful study, When Nations
Die, Jim Nelson Black identifies ten factors that have appeared in great
civilizations of the past and led to their decline and fall. In some
cultures, Black observes, as few as three or four of these symptoms of
social, cultural, and moral decline would be enough to bring a society to
the point of imminent collapse. The list includes:

1. Increase in lawlessness

2. Loss of economic discipline

3. Rising bureaucracy

4. Decline in education

5. Weakening of cultural foundations

6. Loss of respect for traditions

7. Increase in materialism

8. Rise in immorality

9. Decay of religious belief

10. Devaluing of human life

Aiding the breakdown of decadent cultures was a philosophy of "change for
the sake of change." Dissatisfied with traditional authority, the cultural
elites turned their backs on values and traditions as old as the nation
itself. Tragically, according to Dr. Black, the United States is the first
nation in history where all ten symptoms are present in one society at one
time.2

Great empires before us have been REDUCED TO RUBBLE by the same forces
that prevail IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY.

In his assessment of the risks to any society that tries to live without
God, Chuck Colson states: "In a society that begins free-floating
discussion, certainty evaporates. After a while, nobody is sure of
anything. It introduces relativity, so to speak, in human affairs and also
eternal affairs. You cannot be sure-there is no such thing as the
truth-everything is equivocated-everything is subject to contradiction."3

A Greek Tragedy

Some of the greatest empires in history collapsed just as Black described.
A good question for us to consider is: What eroded the splendor of Greece?

One historian observes: "In philosophy, in warfare, in the early sciences,
in poetry, in grace of manners, in rhetoric, the Greeks excelled all
civilizations that preceded it. No other race has ever produced, within a
brief period, so many brilliant individuals as did the Greek people at the
height of their glory."4 Aristotle, Socrates, and Plato, recognized the
world over as sources of wisdom, helped ancient Greece become one of the
highest civilizations ever to exist. The early Greeks held to a strict
code of purity. Homosexuality was a capital offense. Greek arts and
literature, the centerpiece of their society, extolled the virtuous man.
Loyalty to the state and neighbors was among the highest callings.
Self-sacrifice and examination were the norm. Two ancient maxims were
inscribed on the walls of the temple at Delphi: "Know Thyself" and
"Nothing in Excess."

The Greeks were noted philosophers and thinkers, yet their failure to come
to an understanding of God subverted their success. A decline in virtue
and morality swept the culture like wildfire. Absolute truth no longer
existed. Greek society began to falter and drift. Despite their knowledge
of democracy, a respect for the republican institutions of government, and
their complex understanding of the principles of constitutional
government, no stable political institutions were ever created in Greek
society. Only one city-state ever organized a constitution.

Materialism, sexual immorality, and self-absorption took over Grecian
hearts. Homosexuality was glorified. The stage and arts, once the hallmark
of the noble Greek character, became lewd and violent. Lacking focus and a
consensus of values, the once-great culture became gridlocked in a
succession of civil wars. Years later, Greece succumbed to the Roman army.
Ultimately, however, Greece was not destroyed by Rome, but by its own
moral collapse.

The Collapse of Rome

According to the Greek statesman Polybius, at the time that Rome defeated
ancient Carthage, the typical Roman citizen was virtually incorruptible.
Polybius says, "Where in other states, a man is rarely found whose hands
are pure from public robbery, so among the Romans, it is no less rare to
discover one that is tainted with this crime."5 The Romans passionately
sought great feats of engineering. They were tireless political
administrators and organizers of military success. According to Russell
Kirk, they were men of law and strong social institutions who gave the
world Pax Romana, the Roman Peace. Observers said, "All roads lead to
Rome."

The strength of Rome lay in her political structures and her strong
families. Both were governed by the concept of the "High Old Roman
Virtue." Romans believed strongly in being earnest, tenacious,
well-disciplined, frugal, and self-sacrificing. Duty, honesty, and honor
all complimented the virtue Cicero described as the foundation of all
others-piety.

"A man was pious," writes Russell Kirk, "who gave the gods their due
through worship and sacrifice, who honored his father and mother, and
indeed all his ancestors, who stood by his friends, who was ready to die
if need be for his country. A pious man submitted himself to things
sacred, and believed unflinchingly that it was better to perish than to
fail in his sacred duties . A society that is held together by such a
cementing belief would offer strong resistance to forces of
disintegration."6

The Roman Empire slowly declined as WEALTH, POWER, AND PASSION took first
place in the Roman heart.

During the rise of the Roman Empire, Polybius feared that Rome's success
would destroy the Roman character. He predicted that arrogance and luxury
would infect the Roman people, and then, "being inflamed with rage, and
following only the dictates of their passions, they will no longer submit
to any control"7-and the society would destroy itself.

The historian's fears became reality. The nation slowly declined as
wealth, power, and passion took first place in the Roman heart. Once
again, society became preoccupied with sensuality. Oppressive taxes,
combined with moral decadence involving adultery and homosexuality,
destroyed Roman families by the thousands.

Roman thinker Sallust observed, "Young men were so depraved by luxury and
avarice that no father had a son who could either preserve his own
patrimony or keep his hands off other men's."8 As the bottom fell out of
the social order, Roman citizens lost interest in piety and dignity and
focused on day-to-day survival and instant gratification.

Consequently, the Romans lost their respect for human life. Bloody
spectacles were held daily in the coliseums and amphitheaters. Citizens
worshipped the gladiators who fought in these arenas. Originally
punishable by death, abortion became common, even encouraged. Violence was
epidemic. Gang violence exploded, washing away the last vestiges of order.
Soon after, ancient Rome collapsed.

Modern Day Judgment

In my book The Coming Revival, I reported on the observations of some in
England who believe that America is undergoing a devastating spiritual
disintegration at this hour. They connect America's moral decline with
similar circumstances that have happened in their own country in recent
times. Not long ago, Great Britain was the greatest empire on the face of
the earth. England's colonies spanned the globe, and British wealth
exceeded any empire in history.

Researcher George Barna says that observers "recall when England was a
nation in which the Church was the central institution in society. Moral
values, social behavior, cultural activities, family development,
lifestyles, and even political decision-making all revolved around the
nation's religious perspective and spiritual sensitivity. Ingrained in the
nation's thinking was the belief that the highest goal in life is to
worship and serve God."9 England was once the largest missionary-sending
nation on earth.

Then secularism steamrolled in and largely destroyed the traditional
values upon which the nation had built its greatness. Materialism and
modernism replaced a desire for spiritualism, especially Christianity. God
no longer played a major role in any of the political, cultural, or
societal concerns of the day. Relegated to a Sunday visit in church every
now and then, God simply withdrew His blessing from England.

Today, England has been reduced to the status of one small nation on a
cold, wet island in the North Sea. The worldwide empire is dead. The
grandeur has faded; the power is gone. Though not yet destroyed, England's
lampstand has been removed.10

Consider also what we have watched unfold in Russia. That nation had a
tradition built on more than a thousand years of Christianity. This
culture produced rich art, literature, music, and poetry, and had vast
resources of oil and precious metals. Then the country was taken over by
brutal communists who tried to wipe every mention of God from the Russian
culture. The great and wonderful people of Russia were the victims of a
cruel system of tyrannical leaders who rejected the truth of what Jesus
taught, and led the nation astray. After 72 years of atheistic communism,
Russia is today a devastated country-morally, spiritually, economically,
and politically.

North and South Korea

In the early 1960s, South Korea was little more than an oxcart economy.
Starvation was a serious problem that claimed the lives of thousands.
There was a constant threat of invasion from North Korea. At the end of
the Korean War, South Korea was a devastated nation. Because of their
plight, people prayed, fasted, and cried out to God for help.

Today, South Korea has become a model of Christian success. In less than
30 years, that desperate country became one of the most vital, dynamic,
spiritual countries in the world. The followers of Christ grew from less
than one million in the 1950s to 11 million in the 1990s. The people of
South Korea, who chose Christ, are reaping the reward of a job well done.

North Korea is a contrasting story. Although God blessed North Korea with
a great revival at the turn of the 20th century, a self-imposed dictator
declared himself "god." The God of the Bible was denied in all circles of
society. The nation died spiritually. Consequently, the nation is also
dying economically as hundreds of thousands of people are starving from
lack of basic foods. What a contrast to South Korea which turned back to
God!

The Judgment of America

As we have seen in this section, when a society turns away from God, the
inevitable result is chaos and confusion. Society unravels. Those who
champion liberating modern society from all forms of authority weaken the
foundation of society. They invoke independence and individualism as a
means of denying all moral authority and dependence upon God.

Compassion and tolerance, the buzzwords of moral compromise, are merely
attempts to disguise society's contempt for divine authority. Tolerance,
as D. James Kennedy said, is the last trait of a totally corrupt society.

Do not be misled. We pay a high price for deceit and sin. Ask the wife who
has found out that her husband is seeing another woman. Consider the child
who is sexually abused by a relative and then threatened if he or she ever
tells. Or the adults who continue to suffer from the trauma of a parent's
alcoholism.

As America falls victim to ancient vices, we are becoming a nation adrift,
doing what is right in our own eyes and ignoring God. Without God's
standards, fear and pain occupy the places where the peace of God once
reigned. In place of reliable relationships established by God's plan of
order, we are left to fend for ourselves and invent new rules as we go.

As America falls victim to ancient vices, we are becoming A NATION ADRIFT.

Because of cultural decay, the United States is being redefined by her
sins. The signs of ruin are all around us, and we have reached the point
where we must respond passionately to Paul's admonitions to the Romans:

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness
and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since
what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it
plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible
qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen,
being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave
thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts
were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and
exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like
mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to
sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They
exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created
things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women
exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men
also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust
for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received
in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the
knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought
not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness,
evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit
and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant
and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know
God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they
not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who
practice them (Romans 1:18-32).

Nineteenth-century British historian Thomas Macaulay predicted that the
seeds of our demise would come, not from outside barbarians, but from
excessive devotion to liberty-personal freedom without strong moral
boundaries. Just such a moment may have finally arrived. Practically every
social institution is in chaos; moral relativism and situational ethics
pervade every arena of public life. And any attempt to invoke the
authority of Scripture or the lessons of history elicits a cry of, "Don't
try to push your view of right and wrong on me; I have my own morality!"
We have reached the point of moral deterioration about which the prophets
of Israel proclaimed, "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who
substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; who substitute
bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their
own eyes, and clever in their own sight! Woe to those who are heroes in
drinking wine, and valiant men in mixing strong drink; who justify the
wicked for a bribe, and take away the rights of the ones who are in the
right!" (Isaiah 5:20-23, NASB).

The judgment for ungodliness is sure: "Therefore, as a tongue of fire
consumes stubble, and dry grass collapses into the flame, so their root
will become like rot and their blossom blow away as dust; for they have
rejected the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy
One of Israel. On this account the anger of the Lord has burned against
His people, and He has stretched out His hand against them and struck them
down, and the mountains quaked; and their corpses lay like refuse in the
middle of the streets. For all this His anger is not spent, but His hand
is still stretched out" (Isaiah 5:24, 25).

The lessons of history cry out to modern America: REPENT or follow us to
the grave!

We cannot afford to ignore God's impending judgment. Our Christian roots
are rotting away. Hear the deep concern expressed by a group of our
spiritual leaders:

There is not a believer in this nation with any vibrancy in their
discernment or sensitivity in their spirit who does not understand that we
are in a time of crisis in our land.11

Jack Hayford
Church on the Way

You smell the decay, you smell the rotting flesh of Western civilization
today, much like you would have smelled the decay in fourth- and
fifth-century Rome.12

Chuck Colson
Prison Fellowship

[People believe that] there is no God that is going to sit in judgment
upon the actions of man. This is why we see violence, dishonesty,
cheating, stealing, rape, and every kind of immorality imaginable. It is
astounding to me that people cannot see that, having forgotten God, we are
indeed in the process of destroying ourselves.13

D. James Kennedy
Coral Ridge Ministries

Unless there is a revival, this nation is going to get worse and worse and
worse.14

Charles Stanley
In Touch Ministries

America is history. It's over unless there is a broad, sweeping revival of
righteousness.15

John Hagee
John Hagee Ministries

The lessons of history cry out to modern America: repent or follow us to
the grave! The warning is real. The time is now. Will America live or die?
As we know from 2 Chronicles 7:14, 15, God is watching and listening to
see how we will respond to His urgent plea.

But who can lead us to repentance and a righteous culture? There is only
one group of people who have the moral arsenal to combat the forces of
evil-the people of God. In our next section, we will discover God's view
of our actions and what we can do about them.

[1]

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1 David J. Gyertson, ed., Salt and Light: A Christian Response to Current
Issues, (Dallas: Word Publishing, 1993), pp. 24,25.

2 Jim Nelson Black, When Nations Die, (Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House, 1994),
p. 18.

3 Chuck Colson interview by John N. Damoose in Virginia Beach, Virginia,
in 1996.

4 Russell Kirk, The Roots of American Order, (Washington, D.C.: Regnery
Gateway, 1991), pp. 51,52.

5 Kirk, The Roots of American Order, pp. 99,100.

6 Kirk, The Roots of American Order, p. 103.

7 Kirk, The Roots of American Order, p. 102.

8 Kirk, The Roots of American Order, p. 102.

9 George Barna, The Frog in the Kettle, (Ventura, CA: Regal Books, 1990),
pp. 22,23.

10 Excerpts from Bill Bright, The Coming Revival, (Orlando, FL: NewLife
Publications, 1995), pp. 66-75.

11 Dr. Jack Hayford interview by John N. Damoose in Virginia Beach,
Virginia, in 1996.

12 Charles Colson interview by John N. Damoose in Virginia Beach,
Virginia, in 1996.

13 Dr. D. James Kennedy interview by John N. Damoose in Ft. Lauderdale,
Florida, in 1996.

14 Dr. Charles Stanley interview by John N. Damoose in Virginia Beach,
Virginia, in 1996.

15 Dr. John Hagee interview by John N. Damoose in Virginia Beach,
Virginia, in 1996.

[1]Bright, B., & Damoose, J. N. (1998). Red sky in the morning (183).
Orlando, Fla.: New Life Publications.
 
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Lawyers, Fathers Seek to Ban Self-Proclaimed Pedophile From Community

Friday , August 03, 2007

A self-proclaimed pedophile who posted pictures of little girls to his Web
site and made blood boil by insisting he was within the law to do so soon
may find himself in the center of another uncomfortable dialogue: whether he
will be banned from a community.

Two California lawyers on Friday were scheduled in court to seek a
temporary restraining order to keep Larry Jackowski ,(aka St. Jackanapes),
away from the Santa Clarita Valley area, ABC7.com reports.

Click here to read the full story.

"We're firmly convinced that he creates a clear and present danger and a
risk to our daughters and to the children in this community, and he stated that
he's coming back," said lawyer Richard Patterson, who along Anthony
Zinnanti is seeking the restraining order. Both have daughters.

Jackowski says he is innocent.

"All I can say is I've done nothing illegal since I've been here in California,
the whole state. My conscience is clear. I'm just going to keep on keeping
on what I'm doing, obeying the law," he said.

Jackowski has insisted he was never sexually abused as a child and said he
created the Web site to promote association, friendship and legal,
consensual cuddling between men and pre-pubescent girls, he said.

Earlier this week Jackowski defended his right to post pictures of little girls,
telling FOX News he was considering a lawsuit against the Santa Monica,
Calif., police department for posting his picture on their Web site after he
recently surfaced there.

Santa Monica police "questioned me last week in a restaurant, and right
before they left one of the officers asked if they could take my picture," he
said.

"I figured this might be beneficial if a child is sexually assaulted in Santa
Monica - they could just pull that out and immediately eliminate me as a
suspect," he said.

"I had previously explained to him my concerns about all the threats and
everything and it didn't even enter my mind that they would immediately turn
around and put this out as some kind of a sex offender notification. ... It was
on the Internet the very next day."

Warnings that Jackowski had surfaced in Santa Monica spread like wildfire,
with several posting his mug shot along with descriptions of his car - a Blue
1993 Ford Escort two-door with Washington license plate - and even
hourly postings of sightings throughout Santa Monica.

Circulating a flier with Jackowski's description and a warning of his
whereabouts is unusual for the police considering he's not wanted for any
crime, and has never been convicted of any sexually related crimes. The flier
simply warns parents about Jackowski's residence in the area and of his
proclivity for little girls.

When pressed, Jackowski, 45, insisted he was doing nothing wrong by
posting photos of children as young as 3, even admitting that he would have
sex with little girls if it weren't against the law.

Jackowski ran the Web site "Seattle-Tacoma-Everett Girl Love" from
where he lived in Washington state, until it was shut down by its server after
widespread public outrage.

Wearing his trademark dark sunglasses, which he refused to remove,
Jackowski faced Ron Tebo, a father who created the Web site
www.jackJackowski.com to counter the self-proclaimed pedophile's actions
and "take traffic away."

In a dramatic on-air confrontation, Tebo pressed Jackowski to respond to
allegations that he was still taking pictures of children.

"I don't do it anymore," Jackowski said, adding that his latest Web site no
longer was available online.

Appearing earlier on "The Morning Show With Mike & Juliet," Jackowski
made this startling admission:

"I got to be honest with you - if it was legal and if it was a completely
consensual thing, I could see myself taking it all the way to a sexual" level.

Click here to see the interview on "The Morning Show With Mike and
Juliet."

Jackowski has never been convicted of a sex crime, and police say they
have had no legal grounds on which to shut down any of his Web sites
because the content and photos posted on them haven't been pornographic.

Jackowski tells other pedophiles where to go to be around children -
suggesting swimming pools, parks, elementary-school plays and libraries.
When he was posting photos, they would be pictures he'd snapped when he
was in places where children were gathered.

Jackowski even rated his photo shoots - from one to five hearts - for
fellow pedophiles, assigning one heart for places or events that failed to
attract an abundance of little girls, to five hearts for photo shoots offering a
plethora of young children.

He has said he is attracted to little girls between the ages of 3 and 11.

"My primary physical and emotional attraction is to pre-pubescent girls," he
said on the FOX morning show on Tuesday.

FOX News first interviewed Jackowski in March, when he still was in
Washington.

"I guess the main thing is I just think they're cute, a lot cuter than women,"
he said then. "I admit there is kind of an erotic arousal there."

"I really think a lot of this pedophilia hysteria is overblown. I think there are a
lot of people like me," Jackowski told FOX News in March. "They have the
attraction but they're not going to do anything physical because of the laws.
It just makes me happy to attend these events."

Said lawyer-dad Zinnanti: "It's not OK to go out and put those images on
the Internet. It's a blatant violation of the law."
 
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Lawyers, Fathers Seek to Ban Self-Proclaimed Pedophile From Community

Friday , August 03, 2007

A self-proclaimed pedophile who posted pictures of little girls to his Web
site and made blood boil by insisting he was within the law to do so soon
may find himself in the center of another uncomfortable dialogue: whether he
will be banned from a community.

Two California lawyers on Friday were scheduled in court to seek a
temporary restraining order to keep Larry Jackowski ,(aka St. Jackanapes),
away from the Santa Clarita Valley area, ABC7.com reports.

Click here to read the full story.

"We're firmly convinced that he creates a clear and present danger and a
risk to our daughters and to the children in this community, and he stated that
he's coming back," said lawyer Richard Patterson, who along Anthony
Zinnanti is seeking the restraining order. Both have daughters.

Jackowski says he is innocent.

"All I can say is I've done nothing illegal since I've been here in California,
the whole state. My conscience is clear. I'm just going to keep on keeping
on what I'm doing, obeying the law," he said.

Jackowski has insisted he was never sexually abused as a child and said he
created the Web site to promote association, friendship and legal,
consensual cuddling between men and pre-pubescent girls, he said.

Earlier this week Jackowski defended his right to post pictures of little girls,
telling FOX News he was considering a lawsuit against the Santa Monica,
Calif., police department for posting his picture on their Web site after he
recently surfaced there.

Santa Monica police "questioned me last week in a restaurant, and right
before they left one of the officers asked if they could take my picture," he
said.

"I figured this might be beneficial if a child is sexually assaulted in Santa
Monica - they could just pull that out and immediately eliminate me as a
suspect," he said.

"I had previously explained to him my concerns about all the threats and
everything and it didn't even enter my mind that they would immediately turn
around and put this out as some kind of a sex offender notification. ... It was
on the Internet the very next day."

Warnings that Jackowski had surfaced in Santa Monica spread like wildfire,
with several posting his mug shot along with descriptions of his car - a Blue
1993 Ford Escort two-door with Washington license plate - and even
hourly postings of sightings throughout Santa Monica.

Circulating a flier with Jackowski's description and a warning of his
whereabouts is unusual for the police considering he's not wanted for any
crime, and has never been convicted of any sexually related crimes. The flier
simply warns parents about Jackowski's residence in the area and of his
proclivity for little girls.

When pressed, Jackowski, 45, insisted he was doing nothing wrong by
posting photos of children as young as 3, even admitting that he would have
sex with little girls if it weren't against the law.

Jackowski ran the Web site "Seattle-Tacoma-Everett Girl Love" from
where he lived in Washington state, until it was shut down by its server after
widespread public outrage.

Wearing his trademark dark sunglasses, which he refused to remove,
Jackowski faced Ron Tebo, a father who created the Web site
www.jackJackowski.com to counter the self-proclaimed pedophile's actions
and "take traffic away."

In a dramatic on-air confrontation, Tebo pressed Jackowski to respond to
allegations that he was still taking pictures of children.

"I don't do it anymore," Jackowski said, adding that his latest Web site no
longer was available online.

Appearing earlier on "The Morning Show With Mike & Juliet," Jackowski
made this startling admission:

"I got to be honest with you - if it was legal and if it was a completely
consensual thing, I could see myself taking it all the way to a sexual" level.

Click here to see the interview on "The Morning Show With Mike and
Juliet."

Jackowski has never been convicted of a sex crime, and police say they
have had no legal grounds on which to shut down any of his Web sites
because the content and photos posted on them haven't been pornographic.

Jackowski tells other pedophiles where to go to be around children -
suggesting swimming pools, parks, elementary-school plays and libraries.
When he was posting photos, they would be pictures he'd snapped when he
was in places where children were gathered.

Jackowski even rated his photo shoots - from one to five hearts - for
fellow pedophiles, assigning one heart for places or events that failed to
attract an abundance of little girls, to five hearts for photo shoots offering a
plethora of young children.

He has said he is attracted to little girls between the ages of 3 and 11.

"My primary physical and emotional attraction is to pre-pubescent girls," he
said on the FOX morning show on Tuesday.

FOX News first interviewed Jackowski in March, when he still was in
Washington.

"I guess the main thing is I just think they're cute, a lot cuter than women,"
he said then. "I admit there is kind of an erotic arousal there."

"I really think a lot of this pedophilia hysteria is overblown. I think there are a
lot of people like me," Jackowski told FOX News in March. "They have the
attraction but they're not going to do anything physical because of the laws.
It just makes me happy to attend these events."

Said lawyer-dad Zinnanti: "It's not OK to go out and put those images on
the Internet. It's a blatant violation of the law."
 
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Lawyers, Fathers Seek to Ban Self-Proclaimed Pedophile From Community

Friday , August 03, 2007

A self-proclaimed pedophile who posted pictures of little girls to his Web
site and made blood boil by insisting he was within the law to do so soon
may find himself in the center of another uncomfortable dialogue: whether he
will be banned from a community.

Two California lawyers on Friday were scheduled in court to seek a
temporary restraining order to keep Larry Jackowski ,(aka St. Jackanapes),
away from the Santa Clarita Valley area, ABC7.com reports.

Click here to read the full story.

"We're firmly convinced that he creates a clear and present danger and a
risk to our daughters and to the children in this community, and he stated that
he's coming back," said lawyer Richard Patterson, who along Anthony
Zinnanti is seeking the restraining order. Both have daughters.

Jackowski says he is innocent.

"All I can say is I've done nothing illegal since I've been here in California,
the whole state. My conscience is clear. I'm just going to keep on keeping
on what I'm doing, obeying the law," he said.

Jackowski has insisted he was never sexually abused as a child and said he
created the Web site to promote association, friendship and legal,
consensual cuddling between men and pre-pubescent girls, he said.

Earlier this week Jackowski defended his right to post pictures of little girls,
telling FOX News he was considering a lawsuit against the Santa Monica,
Calif., police department for posting his picture on their Web site after he
recently surfaced there.

Santa Monica police "questioned me last week in a restaurant, and right
before they left one of the officers asked if they could take my picture," he
said.

"I figured this might be beneficial if a child is sexually assaulted in Santa
Monica - they could just pull that out and immediately eliminate me as a
suspect," he said.

"I had previously explained to him my concerns about all the threats and
everything and it didn't even enter my mind that they would immediately turn
around and put this out as some kind of a sex offender notification. ... It was
on the Internet the very next day."

Warnings that Jackowski had surfaced in Santa Monica spread like wildfire,
with several posting his mug shot along with descriptions of his car - a Blue
1993 Ford Escort two-door with Washington license plate - and even
hourly postings of sightings throughout Santa Monica.

Circulating a flier with Jackowski's description and a warning of his
whereabouts is unusual for the police considering he's not wanted for any
crime, and has never been convicted of any sexually related crimes. The flier
simply warns parents about Jackowski's residence in the area and of his
proclivity for little girls.

When pressed, Jackowski, 45, insisted he was doing nothing wrong by
posting photos of children as young as 3, even admitting that he would have
sex with little girls if it weren't against the law.

Jackowski ran the Web site "Seattle-Tacoma-Everett Girl Love" from
where he lived in Washington state, until it was shut down by its server after
widespread public outrage.

Wearing his trademark dark sunglasses, which he refused to remove,
Jackowski faced Ron Tebo, a father who created the Web site
www.jackJackowski.com to counter the self-proclaimed pedophile's actions
and "take traffic away."

In a dramatic on-air confrontation, Tebo pressed Jackowski to respond to
allegations that he was still taking pictures of children.

"I don't do it anymore," Jackowski said, adding that his latest Web site no
longer was available online.

Appearing earlier on "The Morning Show With Mike & Juliet," Jackowski
made this startling admission:

"I got to be honest with you - if it was legal and if it was a completely
consensual thing, I could see myself taking it all the way to a sexual" level.

Click here to see the interview on "The Morning Show With Mike and
Juliet."

Jackowski has never been convicted of a sex crime, and police say they
have had no legal grounds on which to shut down any of his Web sites
because the content and photos posted on them haven't been pornographic.

Jackowski tells other pedophiles where to go to be around children -
suggesting swimming pools, parks, elementary-school plays and libraries.
When he was posting photos, they would be pictures he'd snapped when he
was in places where children were gathered.

Jackowski even rated his photo shoots - from one to five hearts - for
fellow pedophiles, assigning one heart for places or events that failed to
attract an abundance of little girls, to five hearts for photo shoots offering a
plethora of young children.

He has said he is attracted to little girls between the ages of 3 and 11.

"My primary physical and emotional attraction is to pre-pubescent girls," he
said on the FOX morning show on Tuesday.

FOX News first interviewed Jackowski in March, when he still was in
Washington.

"I guess the main thing is I just think they're cute, a lot cuter than women,"
he said then. "I admit there is kind of an erotic arousal there."

"I really think a lot of this pedophilia hysteria is overblown. I think there are a
lot of people like me," Jackowski told FOX News in March. "They have the
attraction but they're not going to do anything physical because of the laws.
It just makes me happy to attend these events."

Said lawyer-dad Zinnanti: "It's not OK to go out and put those images on
the Internet. It's a blatant violation of the law."
 
On Aug 2, 10:33 pm, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote:

> This is true. My grandfather used to have a chicken and biscuits
> restaurant (of course they served other stuff) and whenever we went out to
> eat if anyone started to order a bowl of chili, he always reminded us what's
> in it.


Which is what's in ground beef generally. Read Eric Schlosser for
further details.

> And don't you just love those rubber tubes you find in tamales? And
> those are the tamales from reputable companies sold in retail markets.
> You're safer with the homemade ones off the street.


Those are the free condoments.
 
Father Haskell wrote:
> On Aug 2, 10:33 pm, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> > This is true. My grandfather used to have a chicken and biscuits
> > restaurant (of course they served other stuff) and whenever we went out to
> > eat if anyone started to order a bowl of chili, he always reminded us what's
> > in it.

> Which is what's in ground beef generally. Read Eric Schlosser for
> further details.


We call ground beef, minced meat. In our supermarkets, you can watch
them mince the meat and take a dump into it for you in the butchery
which has glass windows and is situated behind the refrigerated
display counters.
 
On Aug 3, 12:14 pm, Richard Catto <rrca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Father Haskell wrote:
> > On Aug 2, 10:33 pm, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> > > This is true. My grandfather used to have a chicken and biscuits
> > > restaurant (of course they served other stuff) and whenever we went out to
> > > eat if anyone started to order a bowl of chili, he always reminded us what's
> > > in it.

> > Which is what's in ground beef generally. Read Eric Schlosser for
> > further details.

>
> We call ground beef, minced meat. In our supermarkets, you can watch
> them mince the meat and take a dump into it for you in the butchery
> which has glass windows and is situated behind the refrigerated
> display counters.


Wow, SA is way ahead of us poor overregulated Americans. Most
of the yummy fecal content in hamburger patties here comes from the
slaughterhouses during gutting, when the not so infrequent colon
gets nicked and spills its contents into the abdominal cavity.
Damn the FDA, we want MORE **** in our Big Macs, not less.
Damn the fascist pig bureaucrats, damn them to heck.
 
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