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Okay, now that was a good one...see I can laugh at myself, lol. I used to have a very southern accent but it is mostly gone now unless I drink a lot and that does not happen very much these days.

The trick is to know "when" to come for a visit, anyone comming to Florida in July or august deserves to get fried, lol. Oh and remember that sunscreen and AC is your friend.

lol, right, like you didn't mean to lie as an attack on Sarah, all that talk that went with the lie about Sarah ending up on the street was just window dressing for support of the lie, it was not heart felt on your part to write such nasty stuff........ Right, so what lie do we believe again?

^^^^^See there Emkay how your lie grows? Was that the experiement to see how many people believed your lie? Well your claim it was an experiment is also a lie, you tried to pass it off referring to it several times and adding in you saw no big deal if Sarah ended up in the streets. If not for Snaff calling you down on your lie it would still be out there. Hell, even I thought you were being honest so me trying to take you for your word and trust what your saying backfired on me............ Now there is a lesson for me, should I not have trusted you? Merc, the house is not worth 12 million, that was one of Emkay's lies. She already admitted it and Snaff said it was more like 550,000. So she is not one of the "evil" rich you think she is.

Why should I laugh at myself when I have a couple of you that keep me in stitches almost all the time? The biggest fear most of you ladies have is to be compared to Sarah Palin,

Yes they do, as I told Chi, too late to try and reshuffle the deck. Your need to lie about the worth of Sarah's home just adds to the fact that you were attacking her prosperity and saying she should not have what she has. But again, why were you saying that? Why are you jealous?

First of all you played the 12 mil number very hard. Your point was clear, why do you think she is "living so large"? Large compared to who? You? Why is the way she lives or the amount her home is worth relivant to is someone should be crippled with unfair legal fees or not? Do you believe the "rich" deserve anything that happens to them? Or just her?

I don't see the connection, help me out. Tiller the baby killer did not run on insurance payments you know. And while I lean Republican out of self defense, I am not a Republican either. Conservatives are against massive increases in big government. Most Republicans have always been against bigger Government as well so increasing Government to run healthcare would be hard to imagine as their agenda. Do you have anything showing they have wanted this somewhere in the past before the Democrats took up the banner?

Well those of us who would be willing to do that understand why and do, everyone else will not. It is an alien concept.

Your right, my mistake, that was Chi, you just said she didn't deserve a nice home so she should take a step down. Oh bull. Trying to tie in your lack in the medical debate is just childish. I had the facts, you had nothign but one person's experience. You cannot expect me to toss out all that data proving your wrong just because "YOU" say the suppreme court was wrong. If you want to discuss this go back to that thread and don't derail this one. You said Sarah deserved to be taken down and she should not have a 12 million dollar home, that has nothing to do with me Emkay. I cannot make you post a lie, trying to say you lie because someone expects you to lie is just foolish. I am not Mangiafuoco. You do what you do, but at least you did admit to being a liar. Emkay, These kinds of discussions require a ceretain level of detachment and discussing "general" truths. You see to make everything personal and ignore the general truths for limited and rare personal observations. This is where we clash. I will not ignore the facts and studies of the general discussion while you seem incapable of even seeing the studies. Hell you even claim they were never done if they do not agree with you as if there is a huge conspiracy to make you look bad or something.

Well again you answer your own questions. The liberal media is in bed with the Obama. They will never report against him the way they did against Bush because they have lost their integrity. As far as MJ is concerned, well I agree with you my friend, but this culture is stuck on things like this as being important. What do we do?

Now who is dodging. You said Sarah spending tax payer money to buy personal designer clothes was bad, well how about blowing $250,000 tax payer dollars on one evening for a date? Obama is spending a lot more tax money on personal entertainment and junk then Sarah could ever dream of spending but for some reason you call her spending bad.......why is her lower spending bad but Obama's much greater spending good? At least Sarah spent her money from her paycheck, Obama is spending money over and above his paycheck. I am just asking for some balanced playing field from you and others. You can't call her money spent from her own paycheck as bad. By the way, why did you lie about how much Sarah's home is worth? It seems to me your the one who is jealous.

Makes perfect sense, to those willing to pay attention She said the the first time, the second time, and now it turns out her claim the house was worth 12 million was also a lie......lie, after lie, is your little world, not mine. If your too lazy I can't help you, click the link if your curious, otherwise your just looking for any excuse to be negative. Okay, being as you claim she has plenty of money then prove it. Give us the numbers of her salary, the husbands salary and compare it to the million dollar cost so far. The President makes $400,000 and even that is not enough to pay these kinds of legal fees. And your lack of giving her any credit where it is due is why everything you say is clearly based on your dislike of her and not anything else. Those pretty girls who have great lives just piss you off right? I am a guy, I do not care about clothes, only women are stuck on clothing. Your jealous, I get it. So now anyone who is paid from tax money is not spending their own money? So when Obama spent $250,000 taxpayer dollars to take Michelle on a date to new york, how do you see that?

'the island' comes to mind. Don't think it won't happen.

My only big fears are for my children. I wonder what challenges they will have to face and fear that our Nation is burning the candle of prosperity at both ends and selling out their future. I will not comment on others, it is always good for them to talk about me but if I join in they cry so it is better to just leave it alone.

Because all the facts are against you darling. Even your supreme court agrees with me, who are you to say your supreme court does not know the facts?

It sucks so bad we get enough visitors here to not have a state income tax. And I have never had to shovel snow

My point about wiki is it is good for "general" information but there is no way in hell I would consider wiki to be a better source for information over the Canadian supreme court who said the Canadian medical system was killing Canadians with their very long waiting lines. You still have not shown me any reason to doubt the accuracy of your supreme court.

Well......I thought Emkay had done some research and knew what she was saying, you mean she just made that number up?

Bender, The number of people who want a thing does not change if the thing was right or wrong. Should slavery been kept legal just because most Americans supported slavery or at least did not believe a war was worth making the change? At the time women were given the right to vote most people including many women were against the idea. Government is supposed to see beyond instant gratification. No, not at all, most of that stuff was opinion based but I do not mind using the parts that were not based in opinion such as how office workers are reduced to one person because they do not have to process so many different kinds of claims.

The point your refusing to address is you can't just stop cancer, the legal bills can be stopped if you let go of the pride. How much is your pride worth Bender? Wow, too many things wrong with that lumped together madness. Staying on topic we can follow trends and see where one fake claim follows another. Sometimes you can see a trend and then you have to make a decision to stay doing the same thing and gettng the same results or just make a change. Your now telling lies, not me. She just said it again, that Sarah should downgrade to pay for her legal bills. That is what she said and what she meant. From the same link we are talking about, click the link. Because your saying she should fight even if she does not have the funds so if your imposing that action on her then you should help pay for it. It is easy to say she should fight when your not the one paying millions of dollars to do so. Was that a question or an answer? Seemed to lack direction to me. You spoke about her costing money but you never mentioned how Sarah saved the State millions through things like getting rid of her private jet the State was paying to maintain for the previous Govenor. I don't know anything about clothes, and don't care either. And Mrs. Obama wearing $600 sneekers to volunteer at a soup kitchen is better? I believe there is a huge difference between spending a grand for some glasses and spending a million dollars on legal fees. The cloths can be reused over and over again. The money spent defending against false claims is lost forever....... Besides, one is by choice, the other is not. Should anyone who has purchased something "YOU" believe is overpriced be suddenly subjected to massive legal bills? They deserve to lose everything just because they have nicer clothes then you do?

Crazy in "YOUR" opinion, but still valid concerns. Private sector jobs will be lost in the hundreds of thousands, this is fact. Government jobs are only recycling the same tax dollar so they do not help the economy, this is fact. Just how many exact jobs will be lost "IS" my opinion, but it is based on taking half the number of doctors we have in America and assuming one lost job for each office possition. I feel this is low because even in my general practice doctors office they have 6 girls who work reception and records. The artical that Emkay shared said this will go to one person for each office, so 5 lost jobs in one office.

Bender, In one example you have something outside their control, a medical issue that was not expected. In the other you have the ability to stop the downward spiral just by letting go of pride.....an easy decision for me. Chi, Emkay did say that Sarah had a 12 million dollar home to help her pay for her legal fees, you seemed to agree. Don't try to dodge that comment now. Oh, and I never dodge anything, I might miss something but I never dodge anything intentionally. If I miss something just remind me and I will gladly answer.

Even if you did replace 1 for 1 (impossible) your going from private sector to government paid, all Government employees do not contribute to the tax base because your just recycling the same tax dollar back to itself so you are reducing your tax base while increasing your cost. At best you might see about 1 new government job for about 10,000 lost private sector jobs as an estimate based on about half of the American doctors running private offices. Hard to say for sure without hard numbers on the exact amount of offices we have.

Is that all there is to it for you Bender? What party wins? I see America losing, to me I could care less what political party "wins" if the Nation is being hurt.