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If you really believed that you would not be giving me more attention now would you? If everything you say is true about me then all this mess you created is making me happy right? Nobody forced you to post here you know, it was your choice to stir this sh!t up and all you have done is cry the entire time. Your a big baby. You started it by playing sex games and now your crying because you can dish it out but you can't handle it. Your a mental child Builder, ranting and raving over being beaten, now your desperately trying to save face, well too bad, this ranting is making you look worse than you did when I handed you your azz in debating. Be careful there Builder, trying to take your failure to measure up on the internet to real world threats of persecution is over the line even for a progressive. If you would like to meet in real life and handle this like a man I will even donate the miles points to buy you a plane ticket, I have no issue with a face to face settling of issues, RO once threatened me too and he also refused to meet me face to face like I know your coward azz will refuse to do. So you want to "go tell my mommie"? Run to my pastor and cry about how unfair I treated you? Well be my guest, having faith does not mean anyone is perfect, I was just responding to you in a way you can understand, I have already spoken about you a couple times with a couple guys and your known as the 'wacko Aussie who believes in 9/11 conspiracies". I doubt anyone I know would even foul their ears with words from such a sick person as yourself. You know, one thing I have learned over the years is you can judge truth and shame by how people respond to things. This response by you is very telling. I am starting to believe my observation about your Coprophilia tendencies hit you pretty close to the mark. Why would you go on and on like this when it was obvious I was just returning a shot at you after you took a shot at me? Most people would consider that to be noramal back and forth sparring but you got excited, you thought about it for a couple days and decided you had to go on the attack. The first step to getting the help you need for your Coprophilia problem is admitting you have a problem, not attacking me trying to cover it up.

Held up by congressional red tape by Republicans who want to see the country fail. . . Can't make that claim Bender, stop dodging the question. Obama promised us 8% or lower unemployment if he got his stimulus package without even taking the time to read it. Obama got exactly what he wanted so 100% of the failure is on the backs of the progressives, Republicans did not stop that package. Republicans are holding up "new" legislation that will also fail to do as the progressives predict. That is a good thing, so far Obama and company has failed at everything they have attempted to do, that is why not one Democrat is mentioning their actual record in their campaigns unless they voted against Obama bills. The Democrats had 100% of the power, and all the failures so far are theirs, and they will pay for those failures in the comming election, just like the Rinos paid for their failures and lost power, now we have the Republicans back on track with what Americans want, conservative values and less spending of money we don't have.

Obama is the boss of the Government agencies and his cabinet, anything done is his responsibility. My point was the boss always gets the responsibility that goes with the power. You decided you could not stand up to that logical point so you went to playing sex games and tried to take a shot at me being as you lost the debate, as usual. Now your running all over the board spamming hate at me like a spoiled brat. It seems you can dish it out, but you can't take it. Now attacking my faith? At least I have a faith that a closed minded conspiracy theory nut like you can never understand. You wallow in your sel-imposed delusion of greatness while I laugh at your many failures in any debate you try to get involved in. These insults are all you have, you run to them just like ever progressive because you lack the ability to actually think for yourself. Obsess about me if you must, I actually enjoy weak minded idiots like you faltering at your every attempt to put me down. Words have meaning in a dictionary to be true, but they also have meaning in things like politics and a progressive in politics is someone who believes it is okay to take from those who earn money and give it to those who don't. You are ultimate in racists and look down on some people and believe they "can't" provide for themselves. You believe some paeople are just stupid and can't survive with a big Government to take care of them. Now that I think about it, your a great example that some are weak mined, but in my view even the weak mined should takecare of themselves. Charity comes from the heart, and the Government has no heart. You Builder are forever nothing more than a conspiracy theory wacko, I see you as little more than a bug, you have proven yourself to be uninformed and willing to believe any lie as long as it paints America and anyone who is not a socialist in a bad light. Your gullable and a fool, and no amount of ranting about me will ever change that fact.

It's your thread you turd-munching weirdo. Another pissweak attempt at apologising for your progressive and most pathetic attempts to undermine those who don't share in your turd-smeared views. Don't ever forget that fact, Louey. My thread, but a silent thread at that, it took your need to spam flames to wake it back up. You started the current mess and I had nothing to do with it other than to reply. Now again your crying like a little baby, crying about how your own actions and comments bring you unwanted attention, well if you did not want it, stop instigating it.

Being as your the guy spamming flames and threads like this the answer is easy, lol. Remember, all I do is reply to what other people post, hard for me to reply to something that is not there, lol.

Why do you keep posing that Bender? All it shows is less job loss, and that is only because Obama already killed the majority of the wavering jobs, the jobs not being lost now are because of stronger companies who planned ahead, not because of anything Obama has done. Where is that 8% unemployment Obama promised us Bender?

Since there is no fine now how would imposing a fine make matters worse? What a bimbo. Maybe she can be Paris Hilton's BFF. You can't be serious. You need to get past your kneejerk reaction to attack what she says and see the topic as a whole. E,mployers currently proviving healthcare have a choice, absorb the higher cost of the new insurance to comply wiht the Government mandates, pass those costs on to the employees, or drop the company provided insurance completely and pay the fine. Patung the fine is cheaper than paying for the insurance, so as a business decision, it is better and more logical to pay the fine, and don't think fopr a second that is not intentional. The goal was always to get everyone possible on the Government system, sticks and carrots. The Government is giving the companies a way out that still provides the Government wiht a lot of new income but is cheaper than the new insurance.

Tell me something Bender, how does a worker have "workers rights" if they are not working? We need jobs first, and the Unions and Government regulations ran those jobs off, now you get to sit around and cry about how unfair it was those companies voted with their feet against the unfair treatment. You did see the report I posted that showd most Union workers now work for the Government right? Where did all those jobs go? Why is it you can't see how this is a case of killing the goose that lays the golden eggs? Don't get me wrong, Unions played a very important role in America's past, workers did need protections from hostile companies and those who ran the companies in a few instances. But the Unions felt their power, that power went to their heads and they transformed into a monster that could not be killed or reasoned with. The Unions found politics and purchased a few politicians like Obama today who has given them more gifts for their support than any American has ever got before as political payback. Bender, I see you still refuse to admit "WHY" Obama gave the Unions that sweetheart deal to exempt them from new taxes all other Americans are subject to, can you let yourself admit why?

Nice try, Canada, Cuba, and other places are touted as better in the medical areas only because they give out free medical care to everyone, but when we look closer we see that the cost of that "free" medical care is lower quality of treatment, long waiting lines, and huge gaps in services. This Canadian woman had to come to America to get treatments because yes it was never done before, and only in America was the skill available to try and succeed. If the doctors in Canada had tried this, she would now be dead. By the way, the reason this cancer was so bad was the Canadian medical system failed to catch it and even thought her pain was in her head. She had her first symptoms during her first child with lower back pain and during her second pregnancy she had massive pain and was on the maximum dose of tylenol 3 and still no Canadian doctors would try to actually look at what was causing the pain. After the pain was more than she could take she went back to the hospital and refused to leave until the Canadian hospital admitted her, and even then they diagnosed her with pregnancy sciatica, not cancer. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/emmiracle-emmom-103194769.html So after years of back pain complaints nobody thought an MRI was needed until a chance comment by her that got the attention of a doctor many years later? Why not do an MRI on her back back when she was first complaining? Why not do an MRI earlier in the pregnancy before they prescribed the tylenol 3? Why pump massive doses of Codeine into a pregnant woman without even looking at her back to see what is causing the problem? Why later pump her full of morphine to treat the pain but still refuse to find out what is actually causing the pain? An MRI is a standard test in America, this cancer would not have spread so far into this woman's body if she had been going to American doctors.

Unfortunately, your parents taught you how to walk and breathe at the same time. Unfortunately your parents never taught you how to think on your own and all you have are empty talking points that once we get past your automatic programmed replies, your standing there with empty hands. Your very young and I know that tends to make some kids very arrogant and self-centered but the majority of your last posts have been you trying to save face for being wrong. This story was about Obama killing American jobs by blocking oil production while helping other Countries produce more jobs there and sell their oil to us when we could provide that same oil ourselves. You came in talking trash about how the ban was lifted and this was a non-story and you did not even know a new ban was put in place until I educated you on that point. You shoot your mouth off first, then you later see the truth, you might want to reverse that trend kid, you will find you won't need to work so hard trying to save face that way.

So you make assumptions and insert all sorts of things I never said and then you want me to be responsible for yor what you inserted? Sorry kid, all I can do is speak to what I am taking about, not what you try to insert. I think maybe your inserting things to give you something to reply to because you failed so miserably on the actual topic, I can only tell you to go and educate yourself on topic before you make yourself a fool saying things that really don't make any sense. All I said was not all permits result in oil harvesting, this was fact and anything you tried to add to it is your fault, not mine.

Did I start this Chi? Who started this current mess? Builder did. Did you have to jump on the bully bandwagon or did you "CHOOSE" to join in? Let me ask you a question, why is it you can't help but insert your nose in anything that is an attack on me? Why can't you just let Builder have his say and I reply if I want to without you sticking your nose into it? The reason is your a bully, of course a bully never wants to admit they are a bully but that is exactly what you and many other people here are. Don't get me wrong, I am perfectly fine with you guys being bullies, I have the shoulders to carry the load, but what seems funny is you guys start sh!t then you at the same time cry about the sh!t you started, that is the one thing I will never understand. What is it you really want Chi, a punching bag? You think if the estrogen Mafia gets nasty enough you can run me off? Well you bullies have failed before and you will fail again, I am no punching bag and I am not going to get intimidated and run away so why not just leave me alone? If Builder or anyone else has an issue with me, then let them have an issue, why must you always try to get a few kicks in too? By the way, you do realize you and emkay hitched your wagon to a idiot who spreads 9/11 conspiracy theories right? I mean you can't get any more deluded and twisted than that and that is the kind of person your defending and bringing into your estrogen mafia? Birds of a feather and all that, I would have thought even you would have been a little more selective than that but I guess the old saying is true, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". He does not like me so that is all that matters right Chi, lol. Your so completely morally corrupt it is not even funny anymore. Well it certainly would not hurt if I stick something in your azz because that thing is so worn you could take a telephone pole and not feel it. Your the guy playing with turds Builder, I have no idea why sick people like you get off on feces, but at the end of the day it really does not matter, you proved you were a twisted person when you started spouting your '9/11 was an inside job garbage', you proved you had not one decent brain cell in your head and there is no reason to give you more consideration than I would a bug crawling on the ground.

So you start sex games, I reply with some too, then you spend days crying about me treating you unfairly and suddenly you want to play sex games again? Stop chasing me around the forum if your just going to cry about the results. Bender, as I said, you show your true character when you go out of your way to be nasty, but I understand that is all progressives know how to do, decency is not in you.

Hey, did I force you to come here and go out of your way to flame me? Why is it you start crap them complain about that crap after you start it? You're annoying and way off as hell on almost every subject, that's what urges me to say something to you. Otherwise you are a waste of time to try and discuss anything with, it's not about complaining. You are also full of sh t and no one believes a word you say. Then why obsess about me so much? Why not just ignore me and never talk about me? It seems you love to stir up sh!t then cry like a baby when that sh!t is going. I only lay the game you start, stop messing with me and I will stop "RESPONDING" to your childish attacks. Who's crying? I'm not a whiny girl like you who is always complaining woe is me, why is everyone always gaining up on me and joing the "bandwagon" and "gangbang" - boohoo. Gee, I wonder why... Can it just be that the problem lies with YOU. But oh no, you have all the answers, are always right and people are just jealous of you, can't handle debate with you and just desire you. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't complain because your always the one conducting the gangbangs Chi. The bully never complains, but I did find it fully emkay was complaining about her daughter being bullied at school. You guys love to be the bully, but complain when other people are the bully. Like I already said, if I am nothing then treat me that way, stop obsessing about me and leave me alone. I only "REPLY" after you take a childish shot at me, hard for me to "REPLY" if you don't start it right? Stop starting crap and there won't be crap.

Your actions tell the truth, not me. With all the various people the seperate tea party groups have helped, you were completely silent, until a pro-life, good looking woman is helped, suddenly your on the attack. Why her? There are all kinds of people you could take pot shots at but you didn't, hell Rand Paul's comments about civil rights would be a better choice for a progressive to go after, and it can easily be tird into his possible performance as an elected official, but do you talk trash about him? Nope. Even eddo pointed out nothing you said about her spoke to her ability to represent the people, it was a pure hack job motivated by your usual hate for any pretty woman who does not support abortion, you did the same to Palin. Your only over critical about women politicians who do not support abortion. Did you take issue with the way Nancy Pelosi tried to equate the tea party with racists fighting against segregation? Nope, not because what she said was right but because she believes in Abortion rights so anything else she says gets a pass by women like you.

Hey, did I force you to come here and go out of your way to flame me? Why is it you start crap them complain about that crap after you start it? You're annoying and way off as hell on almost every subject, that's what urges me to say something to you. Otherwise you are a waste of time to try and discuss anything with, it's not about complaining. You are also full of sh t and no one believes a word you say. Then why obsess about me so much? Why not just ignore me and never talk about me? It seems you love to stir up sh!t then cry like a baby when that sh!t is going. I only lay the game you start, stop messing with me and I will stop "RESPONDING" to your childish attacks.

Like your absurd, one dimensional, unyielding attacks on any conservative good looking woman who does not support abortion? When did I ever bring up abortion with her, moron? I pointed out her other ridiculous views and stances. lol, it is always about abortions with you wackos, if she came out fully in support of abortions and was not attractive, you crazy women would not say one word about anything else, but she is against abortion so that makes you look closer at her and nitpick at anything you can find, and as eddo pointed out, nothing you mentioned has anything to do with how she will represent her constituents not if you like her as a person or not. You also hate the tea party so you grasp at any chance to try and besmirch them. You say the tea party should not be proud of this woman but why? Because she has a few bumps in her life you personally don't like? Nobody is perfect in life but the reason to be proud of this woman is she is a real conservative unlike the alternative who has a very liberal voting record. Results are there will either be a true conservative in that possition or Democrat, not a RINO, and that is something to be very proud about if you hold conservative values.

Hey, did I force you to come here and go out of your way to flame me? Why is it you start crap them complain about that crap after you start it?

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Winnipeg+woman+half+treat+cancer/3549860/story.html Janis Ollson shows off the prosthetic leg she uses at her home in Balmoral, Manitoba.Photograph by: Phil Hossack, Winnipeg Free PressJanis Ollson and family are in magazine ads for the esteemed Mayo Clinic for a good reason: She's the first ever to be cut in half by surgeons to remove much of a cancerous midsection -- and then put back together with a happy ending. Three years ago, the 31-year-old Manitoba mother was pregnant with her second child and had been suffering years of intense back pain when Canadian doctors diagnosed her with bone cancer. Sarcoma experts in Toronto said they would literally have to cut her in half to get at the untreatable cancer, remove her leg, lower spine and half her pelvis. The problem was they didn't know how to put her back together again. They consulted with the Mayo Clinic and the Rochester, Minn., doctors decided to attempt something that had only been tried on cadavers. Ms. Ollson became the first person to receive a "pogo stick" rebuild, with her one good leg fused to her body with the reshaped bone from the amputated leg. Today, she's cancer-free, although she lives with the knowledge it could return at any time. She uses a prosthetic pelvis and leg, a wheelchair, crutches or walker, depending on what she's doing and where she's going. "I have no problem getting around. If I need to, I'll crawl (up stairs) or scooch like a kid," she said. "I don't want people to think 'we can't invite the Ollsons because they can't get in here with a wheelchair.' I want to live life to its fullest." Yesterday, she was at her daughter's school near their home in Balmoral to talk to students about the importance of tomorrow's Terry Fox Run. In 2007, her life nearly ended. "I had pain in my lower back with the first pregnancy. I just thought it was the pregnancy, as did my doctors." It was only after she travelled to Toronto for a biopsy that it was confirmed: a chondrosarcoma, the size of a Pizza Pop, one of the largest the experts had ever seen. Chemotherapy and radiation couldn't help. The cancer had spread through several bones, her pelvis, lower spine and into a lot of muscle tissue. Her only chance for survival was to remove it. Then she got a life-saving phone call. Mayo Clinic doctors asked her to come to the clinic for the experimental surgery. "The plan was to remove the tumour, splitting my pelvis in half and removing the left half and left leg and lower spine," she recalled. After much rehabilitation, she put her mobility to the test this May, walking down the aisle of their church on husband Daryl's arm, on her way to the altar to renew their vows on their 10th anniversary. So the great government run medical system could not help a Canadian with their cancer treatment, but an American system could, but why? Why was the Mayo clinic more advanced than the Canadian system? The answer is American medical advances are made possible by the ability to make money off those advances, under Government controls, few advances are made because there is no incentive to develop those advances beyond bragging rights. Now that the American Government has decided to step in and meddle with our system, we can easily understand that some of these advances in medical care America is famous for will start going away.

I am not a big fan of Wal-Mart being as most of their products come from China when many years ago they used to advertise how they try to buy American but it was their strict refusal to allow the Unions to take them down that made them as strong as they are today. Having them come from China makes them less expensive, which is how the prices are so low in the first place. I think it would be an amusing threat to tell China that Wal-Mart will buy US products from then on if they did/didn't do something or other. China goes "OH sh t!" and poops a little in its pants Hollow threat being as we have run our American production out of business, and they know it. Too bad our Government and the Unions took away our ability to compete, those production jobs sure would be nice to have right now. But we can feel better knowing that the envoronment wackos and progressives are happy that the factories are shut down.

OMG, is there really a person this stupid who can still function in the world? Do you think every drilling operation results in oil production? I gave you enough credit to know that drilling a hole is not a gurantee they will be able to harvest oil. Take for example this event where an oil rig had a big problem and they cap the well. Sometimes all sorts of problems come up and they even abandon the site to try somewhere new. I am sorry for assuming you understood that much.

Like your absurd, one dimensional, unyielding attacks on any conservative good looking woman who does not support abortion?

Who was the chickensh!t that negative repped eddo for telling the truth? You guys seem more interested in rewriting history to protect your feelings instead of being honest about things. I countered the negative rep and I hope nobody else gives eddo negative rep when all he was doing is telling a truth the rest of you seem too scare to admit to. As usual, you are wrong again Chi, but that it nothing new now is it? You don't concern yourself with reality; everything for you is your emotional outbursts just like you claimed anyone who wanted the border secured was racist. But eddo is right, to be completely honest RO ran himself off both times, I was simply the only guy to ever stand up to him on the internet, he was used to every altercation he had ever had with the other guy backing down and not being able to keep up with him. This was unacceptable so he went to greater and greater excesses trying to beat me, and each time he failed miserably. He ran himself off because he could not accept the fact he could not beat me. Believe it or not, RO told me a little bit of what was going on with him too and his mental issues, I became a target for him to feel better about himself, he thought bringing me down would make him feel better, and to be honest I almost let him, but at the end he had gone so far off the deep end I knew letting him play God over me was not going to help him with his deep seated psychological problems. It is not really a feather in my cap other than my ability to weather the storm and keep up with anyone, stay on my feet, my point to Builder is his obsession with me that had him trying to play sex games had happened before and if he had to come here crying about my reply he most likely would end up the same way RO did. And that is a pretty important point, Builder did start the sex flames and later started crying he got a reply he could not handle, he started it, and he cried about it, typical weak azz progressive. The only people in denial are you guys, you were not even here for the RO vs. Times battles and the resulting departure by an ashamed and pitiful RO. I agree that eddo is right, it is more accurate to say RO beat himself, I used his own out of control personality against him, I knew all O had to do is keep the pressure on him and his inability to accept someone was better than him would make him pop. emkay, Chi, RO and many other people have always used the gangbang style to try and run people off, they have learned that everyone simply folded under the pressure even if their target was right and they wrong. Now you have joined the estrogen mafia and you have been set out to do battle against me in their hope you can succeed where they have failed. You have Chi and emkay egging you on and you feel brave with their support but you will not run me off or beat me in the insult wars because unlike all of you, I don't care what other people think about me. My vision of 'self' does not require the shallow and conditional support people like Chi and emkay offer. One day they are your friend, the next day your their enemy just because you said something they did not like, or even you had words with someone who is higher on their 'friend' list so you get cut loose. The only friends I want in my life are those who stay friends even if they don't agree with me, and only two people here on this forum have that ability. I am here for one reason, to debate. I have plenty of friends in my life in the real world, if I find one or two good peopel while I am here then great, the two I have met so far have enriched my life, but those of you who are only interested in being ugly don't and never will bother me. The reason people like you, chi, emkay, RO, and the rest of the estrogen mafia turn to these personal attacks is because you can't keep up on an intellectual level.

Like it or not, successful political women are supposed to be unattractive and support a woman's right to kill her children in the womb, if any woman does not fit those two all important rules, progressive women will come out against them and rip them apart with any tool at their disposal. Let's look at this crazy attack made by Chi against this conservative woman. Nothing Chi has pointed out about her has anything to do with what she supports as legislation or how she will represent her people. It is all personal flames designed to belittle and demean, all in her predisposed hatred of the tea party. Let me explain why she was given the chance to represent her people. The alternative was a RINO (Republican In Name Only) he was as close to being a Democrat as any Republican can be and given a choice between a true Conservative (her) and a RINO, the people decided they would rather lose supporting a true conservative then win and put one of the bad Republicans back in power. While a lot of closed minded people try to paint the tea party movement as a racist group or a radical right entitity, all they really are is people who are tired of the tax/spend/spend/tax mentality of even some Republicans and they want some true conservatives put in place to stop this madness.

Wow, I just noticed you got all worked up over me Builder, and of course emkay and chi had to join in, those two have been joining the gangbangs on anyone out of favor for most of their life on the internet, no surprise there. I am surprised you came here crying about my treatment of you, you act like a child who loves to dish it out but you can't take it. Don't feel alone in that department, many people including the once great and mighty RO had to run away from me because he could not handle the right he started and I am sure your wimpy self will do the same thing, well, maybe not, at least RO had enough dignity to know he had embarrassed himself, you on the other don't. Don't start sh!t, and there will be no sh!t my uninformed and childish friend, lol.